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Teh One Who Knocks
10-26-2012, 11:07 AM
The Vice Staff



http://vimeo.com/52049073

Yesterday afternoon, an anonymous source known only as “Peter R.” reached out to VICE with claims that he had in his possession a video of President Barack Obama’s birth. Peter said that the footage was shot at a hospital in Mombasa, Kenya, on August 4, 1961, by his father, Barack Obama Sr. He sent us the password to a private video on Vimeo, a short clip that appears to depict a white woman who resembles Ann Dunham, Obama’s mother, giving birth to a ginormous black baby. Peter also told us that he has the entire roughly 15-minute video in his possession and has been attempting to reach out to Donald Trump and other prominent birther theorists. We were literally at a loss for words, so we asked Peter if he’d be up for an interview about his “mind-blowing discovery” and, this morning, he said OK and we got on the phone. The whole thing sounds fucking bananas; that’s our official comment on the entire situation so don’t ask us anything more about it, please. We just thought you should know about it is all, whether or not it’s total bullshit.

http://i.imgur.com/nidYT.jpg

VICE: Where did you acquire this video that you purport to be footage of President Barack Obama’s birth?
Peter R: An associate from Africa contacted me and said that he had a VHS transfer of the original Super-8 film. I know him from my business trips and he decided to just give me this thing. He said it’s something he got from Obama’s father, a family friend, in the 60s and he’s kept it under wraps ever since Obama entered politics. Up until then, only my friend, his sister, and Obama’s immediately family had seen it—and now myself and the world.

What do you do for a living?
I have a cotton-based import-export business.

When you first reached out to us you claimed that you were also trying to send the video to Donald Trump, and that you had contacted his office. Have they offered any response?
Yeah, Mr. Trump said he has like 5 million bucks to give out. And obviously Obama would never publish his college records and passport application, like Mr. Trump wants. So, the way I see it, that $5 million will go to waste. Maybe he’s willing to give it to me, to buy the video in its entirety. I’ve been contacting several of Trump’s associates, and I’m about to hopefully meet some of them either in a parking lot, or even in the lobby, and just take cash for it. I sent Trump only a single frame of the video, but since I haven’t heard back I have released this short clip in an attempt to get him to respond.

And what do you think Trump might do with it?
It can be his legacy, basically, because his supposed “October surprise” was very underwhelming. I mean, I keep thinking that my guy in Africa has waited until October for some reason and it’s my mission to spread it.

Your accent doesn’t sound American. What’s your nationality?
I’m Romanian, and I work in the US.

Are you anti-Obama?
I’ve got nothing against him. What’s the big deal if he was born in Kenya? Why shouldn’t he be president? I mean Schwarzenegger, he was born in Austria and he was allowed to be governor. So Schwarzenegger can’t be president because of this law, this thing, either? That doesn’t sound right. And who knows where America starts and ends. Like if Obama was born in a NASA space shuttle… would that mean he wasn’t really American? Like, for instance, McCain was born in an army base outside the US. Who cares.

And you believe this footage to be 100 percent authentic?
I have no reason to doubt it.

Well, that baby is massive. It looks like it’s at least a year old.
Babies are born heavy all the time; I see no issue with that. And I assure you, most of the general public has no idea how big infants are in Kenya.

What?
You might think the US is a fat society, but in Kenya they are born big and then they become light. Which is evidenced by the fact that today, Obama is really light and fit. That’s just the way it is.

You claim to have another 15 minutes or so of footage in your possession. What does it contain?
It’s just like a sweet birth video… his mom and dad holding their newborn son, a few relatives mingling around, the doctors and nurses making sure little Obama is OK…

In the first few frames of the clip you've made public there appears to be a clipboard attached to the bed that lists the patient information of Ann Dunham, Obama’s mother.
In this film you can only see the mother admission form, but my associate has told me that he holds even more footage that includes Obama’s birth certificate—the real one, from Kenya. He also said that all birth certificates that have been released thus far are fake, including the long-form version from Hawaii that the White House made public last year.

How have you authenticated the original footage? Do you have the original film in your possession?
I took it to a lab and the super-8 film is absolutely genuine.

What do you say to people who will undoubtedly claim that this is a fake, and that you or someone else manufactured it?
I tell them try to prove that it’s not real. I mean, like Trump told the president, the ball is in your court. The ball is in your court, now, Mr. President. We have the proof; what do you have?

Have you reached out to the White House for comment?
Yeah, I’ve been emailing them. I’m just saying you produce the Hawaii birth video. Show me the Hawaii video. This is the only video currently on the market and, in my opinion, the only video, period.

Muddy
10-26-2012, 01:34 PM
I don't have a Virginia video for myself?

RBP
10-26-2012, 01:38 PM
I don't have a Virginia video for myself?

were you the runt? :-s

Richard Cranium
10-26-2012, 01:39 PM
: muddy for president :

Muddy
10-26-2012, 01:53 PM
were you the runt? :-s

What does that mean?

RBP
10-26-2012, 01:53 PM
What does that mean?

of the litter... 8-[

Richard Cranium
10-26-2012, 01:55 PM
If the egg was laid in Kenya but hatched in Hawaii this is a non issue.

Muddy
10-26-2012, 01:56 PM
of the litter... 8-[

Are you saying my mother was a dog?

DemonGeminiX
10-26-2012, 01:59 PM
The natural born citizen clause states that you don't have to be born on American soil to be born as an American citizen. You just have to have an (i.e. at least one) American parent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause

Muddy
10-26-2012, 01:59 PM
The natural born citizen clause states that you don't have to be born on American soil to be born as an American citizen. You just have to have an (i.e. at least one) American parent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause

Then whats the issue?

RBP
10-26-2012, 02:01 PM
Are you saying my mother was a dog?

Oh Muddy. :lol:

Muddy
10-26-2012, 02:02 PM
Oh Muddy. :lol:

Im just fcukin around.. :)

Acid Trip
10-26-2012, 02:05 PM
The natural born citizen clause states that you don't have to be born on American soil to be born as an American citizen. You just have to have an (i.e. at least one) American parent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause

Except that under Kenyan law the baby takes the citizenship of the father.

DemonGeminiX
10-26-2012, 02:06 PM
Then whats the issue?

Nobody knows this fact. And it has come up before in the 60s: Mitt Romney's father, George Romney, ran for the Republican nomination for President in 1968, but people questioned his eligibility because he was born in Mexico. However, both of his parents were Americans, so his run was declared legal. He dropped out of the race and Nixon eventually got the nomination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney#1968_presidential_campaign

Acid Trip
10-26-2012, 02:07 PM
Then whats the issue?

Even if he is an American citizen born in Kenya he's been peddling the "I was born in Hawaii" lie this entire time.

Obviously the Hawaiian birth certificate and hospital information is all bogus if he was born in Kenya.

DemonGeminiX
10-26-2012, 02:10 PM
Except that under Kenyan law the baby takes the citizenship of the father.

Kenyan law doesn't matter when it comes to issues in American law. We don't recognize other countries' laws when it comes to our own legal matters, unless there is something written in a treaty. His mother was an American, therefore, by American law, he's an American too. End of story.

Acid Trip
10-26-2012, 02:16 PM
Kenyan law doesn't matter when it comes to issues in American law. We don't recognize other countries' laws when it comes to our own legal matters, unless there is something written in a treaty. His mother was an American, therefore, by American law, he's an American too. End of story.

Read my last post. Even if he's an American he's been lying this entire time and providing forged documents to the American people as proof of his lie.

DemonGeminiX
10-26-2012, 02:23 PM
Read my last post. Even if he's an American he's been lying this entire time and providing forged documents to the American people as proof of his lie.

Politicians lie. All of them. If you can't live with this one, you know what to do on election day. And before you get any ideas about where my allegances lie, I'll be doing the exact same thing you'll be doing at the polls on election day.

The reason why I'm arguing for this as hard as I am is because both of my nephews were born on foreign soil, and they're both considered American citizens from birth. My eldest nephew was born in England, and my youngest nephew was born in Japan. My brother and his (now ex) wife are both American citizens and they had to do very little to have my nephews declared American citizens when they came back from overseas.

Acid Trip
10-26-2012, 02:48 PM
Politicians lie. All of them. If you can't live with this one, you know what to do on election day. And before you get any ideas about where my allegances lie, I'll be doing the exact same thing you'll be doing at the polls on election day.

The reason why I'm arguing for this as hard as I am is because both of my nephews were born on foreign soil, and they're both considered American citizens from birth. My eldest nephew was born in England, and my youngest nephew was born in Japan. My brother and his (now ex) wife are both American citizens and they had to do very little to have my nephews declared American citizens when they came back from overseas.

So you are sentimental on this subject. That makes more sense because usually you are more logical.

I get the sentimentality cause I'm a military brat. I totally adhere to "born to American parents overseas means you are still an American" reasoning. Many of my friends were born on military bases in Germany (Ramstein and Wiesbaden specifically).

But my friends DO NOT have fake birth certificates from American hospitals. They do not perpetrate the lie of "I was born in Texas".

If this video is legit then this is purposeful deceit on a massive scale. The perpetrators are the Democrat party, the liberal media, and the President.

DemonGeminiX
10-26-2012, 03:01 PM
So you are sentimental on this subject. That makes more sense because usually you are more logical.

I get the sentimentality cause I'm a military brat. I totally adhere to "born to American parents overseas means you are still an American" reasoning. Many of my friends were born on military bases in Germany (Ramstein and Wiesbaden specifically).

But my friends DO NOT have fake birth certificates from American hospitals. They do not perpetrate the lie of "I was born in Texas".

If this video is legit then this is purposeful deceit on a massive scale. The perpetrators are the Democrat party, the liberal media, and the President.

The lie is irrelevant. There's just nothing you can do about it. It's not an impeachable offense to lie to the American public, at least not to the majority party of this current House of Representatives. Hell, if it was, every single politician serving in office, every single one of them local, state, and federal, could be run out of office and they know it. You're wasting time arguing about it. Again, if it bothers you that much, then you know what to do on election day. Convince as many people as you can to vote the same way you will and maybe we won't have to worry about this particular lie anymore.

Muddy
10-26-2012, 03:07 PM
It's a pretty big lie though, you have to admit.

Teh One Who Knocks
10-26-2012, 03:10 PM
Plus it wouldn't just be a lie, but a forgery on top of it....if true of course.

Acid Trip
10-26-2012, 03:13 PM
The lie is irrelevant. There's just nothing you can do about it. It's not an impeachable offense to lie to the American public, at least not to the majority party of this current House of Representatives. Hell, if it was, every single politician serving in office, every single one of them local, state, and federal, could be run out of office and they know it. You're wasting time arguing about it. Again, if it bothers you that much, then you know what to do on election day. Convince as many people as you can to vote the same way you will and maybe we won't have to worry about this particular lie anymore.

"The lie is irrelevant" is bullshit reasoning from someone I thought was quite intelligent.

FBD
10-26-2012, 03:35 PM
bloody pragmatism, AT.

I happen to think lies are still a problem, but also accept that for the most part nobody is interested in doing anything about certain classes of people who lie about anything they feel like. Were that to change, the world would be a better place.

Hal-9000
10-26-2012, 06:53 PM
What do you do for a living?
I have a cotton-based import-export business.





Slavery has a shiny new name :)

Lambchop
10-26-2012, 09:20 PM
Nobody knows this fact. And it has come up before in the 60s: Mitt Romney's father, George Romney, ran for the Republican nomination for President in 1968, but people questioned his eligibility because he was born in Mexico. However, both of his parents were Americans, so his run was declared legal. He dropped out of the race and Nixon eventually got the nomination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney#1968_presidential_campaign
So you guys have to choose between a Mexican and a Kenyan. Koolio