Shoplifter Sues Springs Liquor Store Owner Who Shot Him

[Teh One Who Knocks]

CBS 4 Denver


COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) – A shoplifter who was shot in the face after stealing a bottle of vodka from a Colorado Springs liquor store is suing the shop owner.

The Gazette reports that the shoplifter is seeking at least $100,000 for pain and suffering. Bryson Adrian Dewberry was shot in the jaw two years ago by Chang Ho Yi, the owner of Austin Bluffs Plaza Liquor.

According to a lawsuit filed in early October, Yi witnessed the 2010 theft and pursued Dewberry out of his store with a loaded .357 revolver, which fired as Dewberry was in the backseat of a getaway car.

Dewberry’s lawsuit alleges that Yi behaved “negligently and recklessly.” Yi was initially arrested on suspicion of attempted murder, but a grand jury declined to charge him.

[redred]

:facepalm:

[Loser]

Yea, Yi deserved jail time.

[Acid Trip]

Dewberry’s lawsuit alleges that Yi behaved “negligently and recklessly.” Yi was initially arrested on suspicion of attempted murder, but a grand jury declined to charge him.

Says the lawyer of a person who was negligent and reckless by robbing the liquor store in the first place.

[RBP]

Oh geesh.

[Loser]

Here's the difference between this and the security guard thread.

Here, no one was in danger. Period. The thief was already fleeing.

Guard thread, the brawd tried to run the guard over.


It comes down to this. If you believe your life is being threatened, you have the option to protect it by using force, if and only if, you cannot or don't have the option to flea. <----This is the majority of states.

You have idiot states like florida and texas with stand your ground laws that are asinine in my opinion, but we won't get into that argument.

[FBD]

So at what point within the law is it ok for a business owner to protect his business?

[Loser]

When his, or his customers life is in danger.

Outside of that, he can't, and to be perfectly honest, shouldn't.


Everything, other then cash, is insured, or can be a tax write off. So his loss is nil.

Now if he refuses to give up the cash, and is threatened by the robber, then by all means, plug the idiot, but for a 20$ bottle of vodka that is a tax write off? Ya, he deserved to go to jail in my opinion.

[Acid Trip]

When his, or his customers life is in danger.

Outside of that, he can't, and to be perfectly honest, shouldn't.


Everything, other then cash, is insured, or can be a tax write off. So his loss is nil.

Now if he refuses to give up the cash, and is threatened by the robber, then by all means, plug the idiot, but for a 20$ bottle of vodka that is a tax write off? Ya, he deserved to go to jail in my opinion.

I disagree completely because what you said is politically correct nonsense.

Since it was a $20 vodka (which was probably insured) you say the store owner should have just accepted that fact he was ROBBED by CRIMINALS. Never mind the fact the CRIMINALS started the incident by BREAKING THE LAW right?

Fuck that. Shoot a CRIMINAL who ROBBED you and it sends a nice message other potential CRIMINALS. Let them get away with it and they'll be back later.

[KevinD]

I agree with AT on this one. Don't do the crime if you can't pay the fine....lol

[Loser]

I disagree completely because what you said is politically correct nonsense.

Since it was a $20 vodka (which was probably insured) you say the store owner should have just accepted that fact he was ROBBED by CRIMINALS. Never mind the fact the CRIMINALS started the incident by BREAKING THE LAW right?

Fuck that. Shoot a CRIMINAL who ROBBED you and it sends a nice message other potential CRIMINALS. Let them get away with it and they'll be back later.

And if you did this, you would end up in prison.

So if your scenario ever plays out, and you are in some super max getting fucked in the ass, remember...I told you so ;)

Remember the home owner that chased the burglar that left his property and shot him? How'd that play out for the home owner? :roll:

[Loser]

http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=129431
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/nh-homeowner-arrested-for-firing-warning-shot-during-burglary/
http://heraldnet.com/article/20091119/NEWS01/911199996

yea...

The law always works for ya ;)

[Acid Trip]

http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=129431
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/nh-homeowner-arrested-for-firing-warning-shot-during-burglary/
http://heraldnet.com/article/20091119/NEWS01/911199996

yea...

The law always works for ya ;)

#1 link an old story, it's not a homeowner, he used an Ax not a gun. It's not even an accurate story/link to be honest. Here is the real story:

http://blogs.sacbee.com/crime/archives/2011/10/defendant-in-ax-murder-case-ordered-to-stand-trial.html

#2 link is New Hampshire and they are backwards anyways. He never went to jail btw.

#3 link is way more complex then you are making it out to be.

[Hal-9000]

first off, I believe that store owners and home owners have the right to shoot intruders/thieves.....believe it or not :lol:


These pursuing guys however seem to be on the slippery slope. If we allow people to take any sort of shot they want, then we're leaving the law in their hands to interpret...and I don't agree with that at all.


so as much as it pains me, I agree with Loser on this one :lol:

[Loser]

The fact is, in "most" states, pursuing criminals AFTER they have left and are no longer a threat, and then shooting them, is illegal.

Read a few castle docterines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine

Good page to read.

[PorkChopSandwiches]

I support killing criminals, better off in the long run

[Loser]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against killing asshats that deserve it, but do so within the law.

A castle doctrine is exactly that, Castle. Meaning home, car, work. Outside of those, you legally do not have the right to chase down a burglar, thief, etc, and shoot them. That is just vigilante justice, and leads to one dead bad guy, and the "good" guy going to prison.

[PorkChopSandwiches]

http://i.imgur.com/HuebP.jpg

[Hal-9000]

I support killing criminals, better off in the long run

me too...on the weekend I was in a huge line up at the coffee place and some asswipe tried to take MY coffee off the counter...


I should have disemboweled him with a stir stick :x

[PorkChopSandwiches]

or a wiffle bat

[Hal-9000]

:hand: don't be making fun of the Whiffle bat....in the proper hands it can be deadly


I once killed a man with a tiny piece of play-doh and a banana!







:doh: I'm getting my threads crossed, nvm

[PorkChopSandwiches]

:lol:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

:hand: don't be making fun of the Whiffle bat....in the proper hands it can be deadly


I once killed a man with a tiny piece of play-doh and a banana!







:doh: I'm getting my threads crossed, nvm

Pfffffft....I remember one time I was so mad that I squashed some grapes with my bare hands :hand:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

The only thing the store owner is guilty of here is not being a better shot ;)

[Hal-9000]

Pfffffft....I remember one time I was so mad that I squashed some grapes with my bare hands :hand:


pfffft, I once got both parts of the cellophane from the bandaid...IN ONE PULL



worship me bitchez:dance:

[Muddy]

The only thing the store owner is guilty of here is not being a better shot ;)

I dunno man, he did get him in the face... :lol:

[Lambchop]

I think you guys would enjoy some aspects of the Islamic Sharia law. They'll amputate the hands and feet of a thief so you guys won't have to bother shooting at someone for stealing a drink. I'll talk to uncle Abu Hamoodi Shafalafel and see if we can implement a few things over there for you guys.

[Muddy]

Why go to the extreme about this?

[Muddy]

Sorry, wrong thread.. :mrgreen:

[Loser]

I wasn't trying to argue or anything and I hope I didn't come off that way.

I just don't want ya'll thinking you can shoot someone, even in self defence, and have no repercussions.

It's generally a very long drawn out process that can be very expensive, even if you're found innocent.

Check out the NRA website, they actually sell insurance for this very purpose.

http://www.locktonrisk.com/nrains/defense.htm

[KevinD]

You are correct Loser. I would only do so as a last resort in defense of my person, family or home.