Alex Jones Piers Morgan Part 1. 1776 Will Commence Again' If Guns Taken Away

[PorkChopSandwiches]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtyKofFih8Y

[MrsM]

Alex Jones is not doing any favour to his point. If anything he is more of a joke and raises mental health questions. I wouldn't want this guy to own a gun

[Leefro]

Keep the cunt over there please

[Leefro]

Watching it now and I am glad he believes in the 2nd amendment but does not believe in democracy while shouting over Piers

[Muddy]

Piers sometimes has some valid points, but his method of delivery is usually poor.

[Lambchop]

He's been damaged ever since he broke into Bohemian Grove and witnessed the world leaders sacrifice a baby for a giant owl god.

[Leefro]

He's a slimy little fucker

[Leefro]

He's been damaged ever since he broke into Bohemian Grove and witnessed the world leaders sacrifice a baby for a giant owl god.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dahQCEzjkfM#!

[FBD]

Alex Jones is not doing any favour to his point. If anything he is more of a joke and raises mental health questions. I wouldn't want this guy to own a gun

I dont understand why people are expected to go on these talk shows and let the zealot host trod all over them and hang them up to display the host's point of view. And if you disagree or talk over the host, that means you have some sort of mental problem.

I find that zealots like Morgan are the ones with mental problems who I would absolutely not trust with a gun. The "peacenik" leftists are the ones you see making preposterous death threats around the internet. Someone like Jones who has been around guns his whole life and respects them are the people you want to have guns, because you know if they use them, there's a damn good reason.

[MrsM]

I dont understand why people are expected to go on these talk shows and let the zealot host trod all over them and hang them up to display the host's point of view. And if you disagree or talk over the host, that means you have some sort of mental problem.

I find that zealots like Morgan are the ones with mental problems who I would absolutely not trust with a gun. The "peacenik" leftists are the ones you see making preposterous death threats around the internet. Someone like Jones who has been around guns his whole life and respects them are the people you want to have guns, because you know if they use them, there's a damn good reason.

because it's his show

If you go on his show - expect to be interviewed by Morgan - in his style and his agenda.

The guest acted like a blowhard, who didn't want to answer the host's questions. If you are not willing to be interviewed then don't go on the show.

And Yes - to me he came across as unstable and prone to a short temper - someone that I would not want to have a gun.

I am discussing this video and stating that Jones did not do any favours for his position on guns. I don't like P. Morgan as a host, but after viewing that video I was more on his side than Jones

[Leefro]

Jones is mentally Ill
Piers Morgan is a slimy fucker

They should really have both spontaneously combusted

[Hugh_Janus]

1776 will not commence again.... this guy is a retard

[Muddy]

I don't understand the reference to 1776... It's more like 1861..

[RBP]

I don't understand the reference to 1776... It's more like 1861..

If they take our guns, we'll kill the English :tup:

I haven't watched it yet but I will...

[RBP]

Got through 5:00... I hate the yelling... meh.

[PorkChopSandwiches]

It is a bit much with the yelling. But you can't make your point if you let Pierce open his tea hole

[Hugh_Janus]

If they take our guns, we'll kill the English :tup:

I haven't watched it yet but I will...

I'm safe then :phew:

[RBP]

I suppose... but it's hard to watch with all that.

[Muddy]

If they take our guns, we'll kill the English :tup:



:lol:

[Muddy]

I actually lol'd on that one Rainbow

[Lambchop]

Yeah you like that idea huh :bananadance:

[Muddy]

Nah I just thought it was funny.. :lol:

[Lambchop]

1/10 of ya'll has British blood in yer veins. And those are just the ones who have reported their heritage.

:tea&crumpetsfap:

[Muddy]

I'm pretty sure I'm heavy uk islands...

[RBP]

you got the heavy part right.

[Muddy]

:x

[RBP]

:dance:

[FBD]

because it's his show

If you go on his show - expect to be interviewed by Morgan - in his style and his agenda.

The guest acted like a blowhard, who didn't want to answer the host's questions. If you are not willing to be interviewed then don't go on the show.

And Yes - to me he came across as unstable and prone to a short temper - someone that I would not want to have a gun.

I am discussing this video and stating that Jones did not do any favours for his position on guns. I don't like P. Morgan as a host, but after viewing that video I was more on his side than Jones

style and agenda aside, if the host is not willing to let an opposing viewpoint even be presented in the context of an answer to a question the host asked, he's got some problems. especially when making preposterous assertions - he should expect to be challenged when he makes a preposterous claim! if giving an answer is cut off so that another question can be presented because ol piers didnt like that he wasnt receiving an answer he wanted to hear, so ok next question...I mean, really? :roll:

[Muddy]

Was Larry King ever this divisive?

[MrsM]

style and agenda aside, if the host is not willing to let an opposing viewpoint even be presented in the context of an answer to a question the host asked, he's got some problems. especially when making preposterous assertions - he should expect to be challenged when he makes a preposterous claim! if giving an answer is cut off so that another question can be presented because ol piers didnt like that he wasnt receiving an answer he wanted to hear, so ok next question...I mean, really? :roll:

What interview did you watch? I saw a unstable blowhard avoid the pompous hosts questions again and again - he avoided the hosts questions and refused to accept stats that contridicted his stance. He easily talked for 75% of the interview and did nothing to get his point across.

[Muddy]

What interview did you watch? I saw a unstable blowhard avoid the pompous hosts questions again and again - he avoided the hosts questions and refused to accept stats that contridicted his stance. He easily talked for 75% of the interview and did nothing to get his point across.

And then some clown threw the 1776 thing around.. How childish.

[FBD]

called that one :lol:

http://www.infowars.com/veiled-threat-piers-morgan-guest-says-shoot-alex-jones/

Piers Morgan and Guests Discuss Shooting Alex Jones


“I don’t care what the justification is that you’re allowed in this country to own a semi-automatic weapon – much less a handgun. But what do you need a semi-automatic weapon for? The only reason I think you’d need it is, Piers, challenge Alex Jones to a boxing match, show up with a semi-automatic that you got legally and pop him.”

Abby Huntsman (Huffington Post) : “I’d love to see that… [laughter] in uniform.”

Piers Morgan: “I’ll borrow my brothers uniform.”

These are the fuckos I'd rather see without guns, obviously not responsible people.

http://static.infowars.com/2012/12/i/general/tweetsnra.jpg


THIS is gun control:
http://www.gunnoob.com/portals/0/GuidePictures/triggerControl.jpg
THIS is irresponsible:
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQlBt4E58idGAgKF8bhZNKaRTB3Sen9_ OJpj4v6Ym-oBcgxwODCn43ASs0M

[FBD]

ok so I went back and watched this again...

Morgan's line of questioning is very narrow, how many gun murders...asks about US, then asks about England. Doesnt want to talk about violent crime, percentages thereof wrt/ population. As if the entire context is 35 vs 11,000. Do you understand that 35 is less than 11,000? My god, banning guns is the answer!

The thing that gets me is people like piers HAVE to....they MUST...present a *very* narrow range of statistics in order for their views and conclusions to be valid and not utterly destroyed by reason and logic.

All I see Jones doing was expanding the context. Of course in an overly fiery manner, but still. Rhetorical question after rhetorical question coming out of morgan's mouth. He doesnt want to place this in any sort of larger context or framework, he just wants to ask questions to which the only acceptable answer to him is "guns are bad, mmkay."

[PorkChopSandwiches]

ok so I went back and watched this again...

Morgan's line of questioning is very narrow, how many gun murders...asks about US, then asks about England. Doesnt want to talk about violent crime, percentages thereof wrt/ population. As if the entire context is 35 vs 11,000. Do you understand that 35 is less than 11,000? My god, banning guns is the answer!

Well the UK has the same number of people as the US so the numbers can be compared evenly ;)

[FBD]

:lol: so I watched part 2, and who'da guessed that ol piers starts right in asking "so what weapon was used in these shootings" and "the last 3 mass murders have all used this weapon" (see the narrative being propagated) and then tries to go on saying gun crime is lower in britain than US, refusing to note the wider context of overall violence.

Jones makes a good point by saying I want to talk about the drugs these people are on, morgan asks him about 9/11 as an attempt to put him in the "loony sertes" category.

and there wound up being no part 3 because they were going to put jones on with some doctor, I forget who.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf-i3Y5iRYo

[FBD]

:lol: and Jones challenged him to a moderated debate where they'd be put on equal footing. probably thousand to one odds morgan would accept it.

http://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-challenges-piers-morgan-to-moderated-debate/

[Leefro]

You can keep them both

[PorkChopSandwiches]

I'll keep Jones, he at least will stand up for our rights when everyone else wants to be little bitches

[Leefro]

I'll keep Jones, he at least will stand up for our rights when everyone else wants to be little bitches


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzpz_iNFjXc

He's as mad as box of frogs

[PorkChopSandwiches]

:slap: Go sit on Morgans lap and tell him what you want for Kwanzaa

[Leefro]

No thanks Piers is a twat

When a bloke agrees with David Icke you are all in trouble

[PorkChopSandwiches]

Agreed

[Leefro]

I would fuck Alex Jones missus tho

[Muddy]

:slap: Go sit on Morgans lap and tell him what you want for Kwanzaa

:lol:

[PorkChopSandwiches]

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/543926_471825792854477_1711440677_n.jpg

[MrsM]

Ok - I just watched Part 2 - Alex still does not make any points - he is a rambling fool

Who would want to debate this guy? he doesn't listen and he is a he throws out "facts" - then turns around and disreagards the other persons "facts"

his stance on 9/11 and his mockery of piers's accent ... total asshat - his valid points are lost in his "act"

[FBD]

*scratches head* do you simply not know anything of the points he's making or something? He made a bunch of valid points that piers wanted to avoid like the plague because they directly contradict the narrative he wanted to present on his show.

piers wanted to say "how many gun murders in UK....#....how many gun murders in US...#....now what weapon did the mass murderer use....x....ok, cant you see why these guns are a terrible thing?" The whole bait and lead was so silly and transparent - he started out by giving Jones a forum and then he wanted to disregard that forum and not let anything that was said penetrate into the actual q&a between them!

So basically right off the bat, Piers is forced to change the subject, because he let Jones set the table, as it were. If nothing else, just a testament to how utterly incompetent Morgan is.

Ok, so you want rational? How's about John Lott getting talked the fug over?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C6Wkkabcbs

Nobody on the pro-gun control side is willing to put forth any semblance of a rational argument. (I hope my tone doesnt come across as spikey, I certainly dont mean it to be so :) )

[Lambchop]

You guys keep Piers, we keep Madonna. That was the deal, so don't go backing out now.

[FBD]

beautiful:

"Since the Second Amendment did not create or grant any right concerning firearms, the right enumerated in the Amendment has to be an existing right separate from the Amendment. Thus, repealing the Second Amendment would not eliminate any right because the right enumerated in the Amendment was not created by the Amendment. The right to keep and bear arms exists independent of the Constitution or the Second Amendment."

[Muddy]

:lolwut:

[Leefro]

beautiful:

"Since the Second Amendment did not create or grant any right concerning firearms, the right enumerated in the Amendment has to be an existing right separate from the Amendment. Thus, repealing the Second Amendment would not eliminate any right because the right enumerated in the Amendment was not created by the Amendment. The right to keep and bear arms exists independent of the Constitution or the Second Amendment."

Come on FBD that guy is fucking a few currants short of a scone

[FBD]

:lol:

:facepalm:

:lol:


:wave:

if you read the constitution, would you understand? where did these "rights" come from? do they come from the slip of paper? do they come from the government?

where exactly do they come from?

if a certain right is inalienable, what does that say of the paper it was written on?

read it again a couple times over and see if it makes sense ;)

[Leefro]

I will read it while shouting

Will that be ok

[Leefro]

Ohh btw I just quoted any of your comments just to say that Alex Jones is a few Countries short of a Continent

[PorkChopSandwiches]

A few beans short of a burrito?

[Leefro]

Exactly

I always go by would you trust this man to have the button

I would not


He would love another Waco this lad

He hate socialist bankers repulicans jews and devil worshippers


Anyone left ?

[Leefro]

This tweet from an obviously unstable and mad person

Alex Jones ‏@RealAlexJones

If they kill me, I was murdered. Please pray for us.
Expand

[Leefro]

Like I said before when this loon sides with you, you really are in trouble and you best get out

https://twitter.com/davidicke

[FBD]

bleet bleet baaaa-aaaa-aaaaaah!!!!!!

now do you get it? :dance:

[Leefro]

That is the best reasoned argument you have came up with since you became a member here ;)

Alex Jones is a few Pineapple chucks short of a Hawaiian Pizza

[FBD]

:lol:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/01/10/fox-affiliate-thoroughly-debunks-piers-morgan-s-gun-homicide-statisti#ixzz2HaCOcfBh

piers cant even get his stats straight.

[Muddy]

nit picking.. Everyone should let it go.. OOOhh Pierce was wrong... It was 59 people killed and not 35... And it was 11,000 and not 12,000 Americans.. This is dumb..

Look guns are our right, and Im down with that... But really Peirce is right.. They are responsible for a FAR higher number of deaths here in the US vs the UK.

Also this "violent crimes" crap is not the same thing as getting your ass WHACKED with a fooking glock... c'mon man..

*edit*

Oh yeah, sorry.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :rolleyes:

[PorkChopSandwiches]

:slap:

[Muddy]

:slap:

Thats me, slapping you with some logic. Django.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Also this "violent crimes" crap is not the same thing as getting your ass WHACKED with a fooking glock... c'mon man..

So if someone breaks into some woman's house, beats her half to death with a tire iron and then rapes her, that's less bad than shooting someone?

[PorkChopSandwiches]

Thats not violent, only guns are violent

[Teh One Who Knocks]

:doh:

[Muddy]

So if someone breaks into some woman's house, beats her half to death with a tire iron and then rapes her, that's less bad than shooting someone?

If she lives, YES. The operative word in that statistic is "homicide".

[FBD]

haha wtf!!! and you people call ME insane :lol:

[Muddy]

haha wtf!!! and you people call ME insane :lol:

You are insane you friggin loon... Get out of here with your ol' tai chi.. :lol:

[FBD]

:lol: yeah, but that's crazy wisdom. there's a difference :dance:

[Muddy]

drunken noodle style..

[Leefro]

:lol:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/01/10/fox-affiliate-thoroughly-debunks-piers-morgan-s-gun-homicide-statisti#ixzz2HaCOcfBh

piers cant even get his stats straight.

What does he say about Lemmings ?

[FBD]

he lamented they ran him out of his country?

[Acid Trip]

nit picking.. Everyone should let it go.. OOOhh Pierce was wrong... It was 59 people killed and not 35... And it was 11,000 and not 12,000 Americans.. This is dumb..

Look guns are our right, and Im down with that... But really Peirce is right.. They are responsible for a FAR higher number of deaths here in the US vs the UK.

Also this "violent crimes" crap is not the same thing as getting your ass WHACKED with a fooking glock... c'mon man..

*edit*

Oh yeah, sorry.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :rolleyes:

Crimes reported per year:

United States: 11,877,218 (311 million residents) 1 in 28.27 people is victimized.
United Kingdom: 6,523,706 (53 million residents) 1 in 8.8 people is victimized.

We have less than double the crime rate despite having 6 times the population. Their violent crime rate is also 3-4 times higher.

Who in their right mind would want to trade stats with England :lol:

[Muddy]

Ya'll keep talking crime rates.. Lets talk homicide. :lol:

[Leefro]

I Have been Victimised 3 times this week

And I enjoyed it

[FBD]

Ya'll keep talking crime rates.. Lets talk homicide. :lol:

:hand:

Quote Originally Posted by tehlancinator View Post
So if someone breaks into some woman's house, beats her half to death with a tire iron and then rapes her, that's less bad than shooting someone?
If she lives, YES. The operative word in that statistic is "homicide".

I'm still shocked you said that, muddy. why dont we ask a woman who's been beaten and raped what she thinks of it? (and then ask if she now owns a gun)

[Acid Trip]

:hand:

Quote Originally Posted by tehlancinator View Post
So if someone breaks into some woman's house, beats her half to death with a tire iron and then rapes her, that's less bad than shooting someone?
If she lives, YES. The operative word in that statistic is "homicide".

I'm still shocked you said that, muddy. why dont we ask a woman who's been beaten and raped what she thinks of it? (and then ask if she now owns a gun)

Especially shocking since he has female children/grandchildren.

[Hugh_Janus]

what if she was threatened and beaten with a gun? :popcorn:

[Lambchop]

I think it has been a good 15+ years since we have had a school massacre over here :-k

[Muddy]

:hand:

Quote Originally Posted by tehlancinator View Post
So if someone breaks into some woman's house, beats her half to death with a tire iron and then rapes her, that's less bad than shooting someone?
If she lives, YES. The operative word in that statistic is "homicide".

I'm still shocked you said that, muddy. why dont we ask a woman who's been beaten and raped what she thinks of it? (and then ask if she now owns a gun)

You're totally out of context... The comparison is that in the UK she was victimized but lived and in the US she was shot.. DEAD.

Again, pull up the statistics involving homicides, oh sensei of googling..


Especially shocking since he has female children


A personal cheap shot.. I thought we were beyond that..? :confused:

[Muddy]

:doh:


The number of murders and killings in England and Wales has fallen to the lowest level in nearly 30 years, Office for National Statistics figures show.

Police recorded 550 homicides in 2011-12, 88 fewer than the previous year and the lowest number since 1983.

[RBP]

There are more civilians murdered by Obama drone strikes than there are US gun homicides. Perspective.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

There are more civilians murdered by Obama drone strikes than there are US gun homicides. Perspective.

http://i.imgur.com/CmISim.jpg

[RBP]

http://i.imgur.com/CmISim.jpg

I got the numbers wrong... ignore that, it isn't true. :doh:

[Leefro]

TBF to Alex he was trending for two days straight on twitter mostly were against him but some were positive

Mainly nut jobs tho