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FBD
01-08-2013, 04:58 PM
By Mike Clary, Sun Sentinel

9:32 p.m. EST, January 7, 2013

A communication professor known for conspiracy theories has stirred controversary at Florida Atlantic University with claims that last month's Newtown, Conn., school shootings did not happen as reported — or may not have happened at all.

Moreover, James Tracy asserts in radio interviews and on his memoryholeblog.com. that trained "crisis actors" may have been employed by the Obama administration in an effort to shape public opinion in favor of the event's true purpose: gun control.

"As documents relating to the Sandy Hook shooting continue to be assessed and interpreted by independent researchers, there is a growing awareness that the media coverage of the massacre of 26 children and adults was intended primarily for public consumption to further larger political ends," writes Tracy, a tenured associate professor of media history at FAU and a former union leader.

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In another post, he says, "While it sounds like an outrageous claim, one is left to inquire whether the Sandy Hook shooting ever took place — at least in the way law enforcement authorities and the nation's news media have described."

FAU is distancing itself from Tracy's views.


"James Tracy does not speak for the university. The website on which his post appeared is not affiliated with FAU in any way," said media director Lisa Metcalf.

Tracy said he knows he has sparked controversy on campus. In one of his courses, called "Culture of Conspiracy," Tracy said some students have expressed skepticism about his views.

"But I encourage that," said Tracy, 47, a faculty member for 10 years. "I want to get students to look at events in a more critical way."

In the Internet age, "We see more and more professors getting into trouble for what they're posting on Facebook, or Tweeting," said Gregory Scholtz, director of the department of academic freedom at the Association of University Professors. "And administrations are sensitive to bad publicity; they don't like things that public might find obnoxious or reprehensible. But most reputable administrations stay above the fray and give latitude."

Robert Shibley, an official with the Philadelphia-based Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, said Tracy is well within his rights of free speech, especially when teaching a course on conspiracy theory.

"The only way that a university would have a right to tone it down, or insist he stop talking about it, is if students come to him and say they find it disturbing," said Shibley. "People are allowed to talk about things that are upsetting — for example, abortion."

On Monday, the website Global Research posted a timeline written by Tracy which purports to show how federal and local police agencies, abetted by "major media," conspired early in the Sandy Hook investigation to constuct a scenario pointing to Lanza as " the sole agent of the massacre" when others may have been involved.

In one of his blog posts, "The Sandy Hook School Massacre: Unanswered Questions and Missing Information," Tracy cites several sources for his skepticism, including lack of surveillance video or still images from the scene, the halting performance of the medical examiner at a news conference, timeline confusion, and how the accused shooter was able to fire so many shots in just minutes.

In an interview Monday, Tracy said "while it appears that people lost their lives" at Sandy Hook Elementary on Dec. 14, he is not ready to buy that a lone gunman, 20-year-old Adam Lanza, entered the school and methodically shot 20 children and six adults before killing himself.

Lanza is also suspected of killing his mother at their Newtown home before arriving at the school.

Asked if he has been accused of promoting fringe theories, Tracy said, "I do get that sense, from emails and otherwise."

Tracy said he believes the deaths at Sandy Hook may have resulted from a training exercise. "Was this to a certain degree constructed?" he said. "Was this a drill?

"Something most likely took place," he said. "One is left with the impression that a real tragedy took place."

But, he added, he has not seen bodies, or photos of bodies. "Overall, I'm saying the public needs more information to assess what took place. We don't have that. And when the media and the public don't have that, various sorts of ideas can arise."

Tracy said also has doubts about the official version of the Kennedy assassination, the Oklahoma City bombing, the 9-11 terror attacks and the Aurora, Colo., theater murders.

"I describe myself as a scholar and public intellectual," he said, "interested in going more deeply into controversial public events. Although some may see [my theories] as beyond the pale, I am doing what we should be doing as academics."

mwclary@tribune.com, 954-356-4465

James Tracy

Title: Florida Atlantic University associate professor, media history and analysis, political economy of communication.

Age: 47

Born: Hornell, N.Y.

Education: Undergraduate: San Jose State, communication, 1995

Master's degree: University of Arizona, media studies, 1998

PhD.: University of Iowa, 2002.

Activities: editor, Democratic Communiqué, journal of the Union for Democratic Communications.

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I dont even see that we ever got "an official version" - we got word they were reenacting the body dispersion, but there's still way too many pieces of misinformation - and basically it started right off with our full of shit state police Lt. talking up assault weapons on day 1 when there wasnt even one involved. It wouldnt surprise me in the least for this to be crafted to fit a narrative.

Loser
01-08-2013, 05:10 PM
Tbh, this guy's an asshat.

It happened.

But there was one question I had.

Several sources at the scene said they found an AR-15 rifle in the trunk of the car. It was un-used. Un-Used

But almost ALL news media, and white house staffers, portayed it as the murder weapon.

You all know why.

FBD
01-08-2013, 05:15 PM
It was not an AR-15, that much I do know for sure ;) Just an ordinary long rifle - but ya know, "it might be easily confused with an assault rifle"...um, being that its a rifle, and all...

RBP
01-08-2013, 05:21 PM
Tbh, this guy's an asshat.

It happened.

But there was one question I had.

Several sources at the scene said they found an AR-15 rifle in the trunk of the car. It was un-used. Un-Used

But almost ALL news media, and white house staffers, portayed it as the murder weapon.

You all know why.


It was not an AR-15, that much I do know for sure ;) Just an ordinary long rifle - but ya know, "it might be easily confused with an assault rifle"...um, being that its a rifle, and all...

How do you guys know this... haven't heard that. :-k

Acid Trip
01-08-2013, 05:27 PM
Where are the autopsy reports that verify the caliber/type of bullet used to kill each person? That will put an end to the "what gun did he use" nonsense real fast.

Hal-9000
01-08-2013, 05:35 PM
crisis actors.....:facepalm:


ffs it's a good thing the families of the children don't kill this guy (using an AR-15)

Loser
01-08-2013, 05:40 PM
How do you guys know this... haven't heard that. :-k

Talk between agencies happens faster then the news media.

News media may have reported it as a regular long rifle, but it was in fact an AR-15.

Teh One Who Knocks
01-08-2013, 05:42 PM
http://i.imgur.com/TplZa.jpg

RBP
01-08-2013, 05:44 PM
Talk between agencies happens faster then the news media.

News media may have reported it as a regular long rifle, but it was in fact an AR-15.

wait what? First you said it was NOT an AR-15, now you say is WAS... or do you mean what they found unused in the trunk. :wha:

Loser
01-08-2013, 06:08 PM
wait what? First you said it was NOT an AR-15, now you say is WAS... or do you mean what they found unused in the trunk. :wha:

I never said it wasn't an AR-15, that was FDB.

I said that they found the AR-15 in the trunk of his car, un-used, but news media made it out like he used the AR-15 to kill all the children. He didn't.

He used two handguns. One was a glock, which had a magazine capacity of 10 rounds, it was a compact model. The other was a Sig sauer p226, which holds 15+1.

The AR-15, sat un-used in his trunk, but news media and white house staffers, pushing their political agenda, made it out like he only used the "Assault rifle". ;)

FBD
01-08-2013, 06:33 PM
I never said it wasn't an AR-15, that was FDB.

I said that they found the AR-15 in the trunk of his car, un-used, but news media made it out like he used the AR-15 to kill all the children. He didn't.

He used two handguns. One was a glock, which had a magazine capacity of 10 rounds, it was a compact model. The other was a Sig sauer p226, which holds 15+1.

The AR-15, sat un-used in his trunk, but news media and white house staffers, pushing their political agenda, made it out like he only used the "Assault rifle". ;)

its still reported all over the place that he used an AR to do the killings.

I think that "story" is going to wind up sticking because that's how they want it told.

first he only had the handguns in the school and a shotgun in the trunk.

then all of a sudden mr fucking Vance starts talking about assault weapons, people start asking about AR-15s, and now the story is "he went and mowed down everyone with an AR 15, then used a handgun to kill himself"

this is real bullshit, man. real fucking bullshit. honesty and integrity do not even fucking exist any longer.

minz
01-08-2013, 08:12 PM
Does it really matter what weapon was used, innocent children died because of the ease of which he managed to get these weapons, it's that problem that really needs sorting out!

FBD
01-08-2013, 08:20 PM
:facepalm: and the "authorities" creating a story to single out certain weapons that they're targeting for confiscation is not an issue for the rest of us?

http://maddmedic.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/lawsfail.jpg?w=600&h=420

Acid Trip
01-08-2013, 09:08 PM
http://maddmedic.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/lawsfail.jpg?w=600&h=420

:+1:

RBP
01-08-2013, 09:12 PM
Does it really matter what weapon was used, innocent children died because of the ease of which he managed to get these weapons, it's that problem that really needs sorting out!

So we sort out a murderous thief by banning the guns? :huh:

FBD
01-08-2013, 09:19 PM
Also - let's say guns were banned. How much damage could this kid have done with a kitchen knife in this school? I daresay every bit as much. He still could have murdered an entire class of children, their aides, a few school admins. Easily. Them being completely disarmed and all...

Acid Trip
01-08-2013, 09:22 PM
Let's ask the Aussies how the gun ban affected their violent crime rates. You could easily substitute "UK" wherever you see "Australia" because the numbers are strikingly similar.

In 2002 — five years after enacting its gun ban — the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

Even Australia’s Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent. Sexual assault — Australia’s equivalent term for rape — increased 29.9 percent. Overall, Australia’s violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.

Moreover, Australia and the United States — where no gun-ban exists — both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America’s rate dropped 31.7 percent.

During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent. Sexual assault — Australia’s equivalent term for rape — increased 29.9 percent.

Overall, Australia’s violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.

At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent. Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.

RBP
01-08-2013, 09:25 PM
Ok, I just searched Google and looked at 5 articles and they all said he used an AR-15.

RBP
01-08-2013, 09:32 PM
wait, here's a local news publishing of a CNN report


A Glock and Sig Sauer were found inside the school with the deceased gunman, 20-year-old Adam Lanza, while a Bushmaster rifle was found in a car outside the school, the official said.

But numerous CNN reports contradict that?

Loser
01-08-2013, 11:04 PM
Don't you dare, DONT YOU DARE become a critial thinker :x


Hypocrits and politicians hate that. ;)

RBP
01-08-2013, 11:07 PM
So seriously... they all know that the AR-15 was left in the car?

And they continue to report it as the murder weapon?

I am not that naive, but I am a little stunned by that.

Loser
01-08-2013, 11:10 PM
So seriously... they all know that the AR-15 was left in the car?

And they continue to report it as the murder weapon?

I am not that naive, but I am a little stunned by that.

You've been an american for how long now? :lol:

RBP
01-08-2013, 11:18 PM
You've been an american for how long now? :lol:

:lol:

But still, that really bothers me.

Loser
01-08-2013, 11:34 PM
It's the same American news media that's burned EVERY republican candidate since...ever? :lol:

FBD
01-09-2013, 12:33 PM
So seriously... they all know that the AR-15 was left in the car?

And they continue to report it as the murder weapon?

I am not that naive, but I am a little stunned by that.

it was a shotgun in the car, there was no fucking AR-15, it was invented, created, all so that we can outlaw high capacity shit. why do you think obama kept droning on about high capacity shit when this was all done with handguns, they purposely let bits of information out, took speculative questions and answered them speculatively...

its a fkn setup, plain and simple. fast & furious backfired and thhey didnt get the anti-gun reaction they wanted, so sorry, americans are going to have to start dying now instead of mexicans until there's enough anti gun outrage that nobody's going to question an executive gutting of the second amendment.

all by design.

MrsM
01-09-2013, 02:26 PM
it was a shotgun in the car, there was no fucking AR-15, it was invented, created, all so that we can outlaw high capacity shit. why do you think obama kept droning on about high capacity shit when this was all done with handguns, they purposely let bits of information out, took speculative questions and answered them speculatively...

its a fkn setup, plain and simple. fast & furious backfired and thhey didnt get the anti-gun reaction they wanted, so sorry, americans are going to have to start dying now instead of mexicans until there's enough anti gun outrage that nobody's going to question an executive gutting of the second amendment.

all by design.

Could you please give a reference for this "fact"? I think there has been so much false info released about this event that I blame the media for wanting to have up to the second info and not do any checking that it was true or not.

FBD
01-09-2013, 02:35 PM
if you recall lt vance's first statements, he said the guy had 2 handguns on him and a longer weapon in the car, he was specifically vague about the exact types of weapons but would only say 2 handguns and a longer gun. of course immediately he got asked if it was an assault weapon in the trunk, but vance wouldnt confirm what type it was and whether or not it was a bushmaster or ar-15, etc. from there people started talking, before you know it, msn, cnn, huffpo, it was all over the place that it was an AR in the trunk, then the story morphed into he used the AR in the school. the latest ct state police's statements say he had the shotgun in the trunk. the AR got invented out of thin air.

RBP
01-09-2013, 02:42 PM
if you recall lt vance's first statements, he said the guy had 2 handguns on him and a longer weapon in the car, he was specifically vague about the exact types of weapons but would only say 2 handguns and a longer gun. of course immediately he got asked if it was an assault weapon in the trunk, but vance wouldnt confirm what type it was and whether or not it was a bushmaster or ar-15, etc. from there people started talking, before you know it, msn, cnn, huffpo, it was all over the place that it was an AR in the trunk, then the story morphed into he used the AR in the school. the latest ct state police's statements say he had the shotgun in the trunk. the AR got invented out of thin air.

Really? :-k

FBD
01-09-2013, 02:51 PM
unless I saw the words coming out of vance's mouth funny, yup.

MrsM
01-09-2013, 02:52 PM
if you recall lt vance's first statements, he said the guy had 2 handguns on him and a longer weapon in the car, he was specifically vague about the exact types of weapons but would only say 2 handguns and a longer gun. of course immediately he got asked if it was an assault weapon in the trunk, but vance wouldnt confirm what type it was and whether or not it was a bushmaster or ar-15, etc. from there people started talking, before you know it, msn, cnn, huffpo, it was all over the place that it was an AR in the trunk, then the story morphed into he used the AR in the school. the latest ct state police's statements say he had the shotgun in the trunk. the AR got invented out of thin air.

That is still second or third hand info... and to take that, without any official information and then turn it into a conspiracy that the liberal media is trying to use this tradegy to push gun control is just as bad or worse then what you are claiming the media of doing

FBD
01-09-2013, 03:00 PM
right, I forgot that "the official information" is the only valid source of information :lol: look, I'm going by the words that came right out of the Lt's mouth. I watched the newspeople ask him a crapload of questions and start focusing on ARs, and this all took off because he wouldnt say and left the possibility open, the narrative sprung up, and now it is being parroted around as truth.

are you somehow convinced that lying is beyond these people and that the ends dont justify damn near any means??

RBP
01-09-2013, 03:09 PM
I am still finding article after article after article saying it was an AR-15.

FBD
01-09-2013, 03:16 PM
exactly. you think if it really was an AR 15, why wouldnt they have immediately came out and said it, seeing as they're so hellbent on disarming the general population. instead they let the AR-15 come about from purely speculative questions from the media, the possibility was out there for however long, then a fable became reality.

RBP
01-09-2013, 03:18 PM
The NBC report says 4 handguns with an AR-15 in the car.

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495

Geesh. I don't get why it's no hard to have facts on this.

FBD
01-09-2013, 03:20 PM
:3cardmonty:

Acid Trip
01-09-2013, 03:39 PM
I am still finding article after article after article saying it was an AR-15.

Cause all the news outlets copy each other instead of investigating it for themselves.

Why not just publish the coroner reports that say what caliber bullet was used in the deaths? Cause they lied and they know it!

RBP
01-09-2013, 03:49 PM
This is frustrating.

FBD
01-09-2013, 03:56 PM
Fraudulent senator Blumenthal is planning on putting forth a bill to require background checks on ammo purchases...

(yes, his seat was stolen for him in 2010 along with "governor" Malloy, thank you secretary of state bycewicz for ordering 40% of the necessary ballots for bridgeport and then finding bags and bags of votes in the ensuing mess)