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Teh One Who Knocks
01-09-2013, 02:58 PM
By Adam Clark Estes | The Atlantic Wire


It's been almost five years since AIG's stock dropped 60 percent in a day leaving the company doomed to failure, when Uncle Sam swooped in with $182 billion to rescue it. But AIG must have a short memory, because on Monday night news emerged that the insurance company is actually thinking about suing the U.S. government over the bailout that saved it. The board will discuss the idea with shareholders at a meeting on Wednesday.

It's not so much that AIG's mad the government bailed them out. (They wouldn't be around to be mad if it hadn't.) They just wish they'd done it a little bit differently. "The lawsuit does not argue that government help was not needed," The New York Times reports. "It contends that the onerous nature of the rescue -- the taking of what became a 92 percent stake in the company, the deal's high interest rates and the funneling of billions to the insurer's Wall Street clients -- deprived shareholders of tens of billions of dollars and violated the Fifth Amendment, which prohibits the taking of private property for 'public use, without just compensation.'" Does that kind of bad attitude count as "looking the gift horse in the mouth" or "biting the hand that feeds you?" Or both?

The timing of AIG's potential lawsuit is a little bit curious. The company just finished paying the government back about a month ago, when the Treasury Department announced the sale of its last batch of AIG shares -- at a profit nonetheless. Then a week ago, AIG launched a rah-rah ad campaign with the tagline "Thank You America" to show just how much it appreciates taxpayers saving its butt.

But that's not the message that suing the government for putting up the cash sends, is it? A professor of law and finance at the University of San Diego told The Times, "On the one hand, from a corporate governance perspective, it appears they're being extra cautious and careful. On the other hand, it's a slap in the face to the taxpayer and the government."

FBD
01-09-2013, 03:13 PM
AIG should have been left to fail, just like GM. the government should not have had the ability to force its way around as it did, that was illegal.

Muddy
01-09-2013, 03:15 PM
AIG should have been left to fail, just like GM. the government should not have had the ability to force its way around as it did, that was illegal.

And Fannie Mae and Bernie Mac and Bank of America and all the other tarp recipients.

Teh One Who Knocks
01-09-2013, 03:15 PM
AIG should have been left to fail, just like GM. the government should not have had the ability to force its way around as it did, that was illegal.

True, but on the other hand, AIG can't whine after the fact that they didn't think the bailout terms were "fair" to them. If it wasn't for the bailout, they wouldn't even exist right now.

FBD
01-09-2013, 03:23 PM
that's true lance, but...what the government did was still illegal. what the fed does every day is still illegal, at least if you want to take a technical standpoint on these issues.

and just to make sure they could in the future, they made sure to write what they did into the dodd-frank legislation, effectively breaking the law and then writing a law to cover it after the fact.

Acid Trip
01-09-2013, 03:35 PM
And Fannie Mae and Bernie Mac and Bank of America and all the other tarp recipients.

Heard that. All TARP banks should have been shuttered so my bank could by them for pennies on the dollar.


that's true lance, but...what the government did was still illegal. what the fed does every day is still illegal, at least if you want to take a technical standpoint on these issues.

and just to make sure they could in the future, they made sure to write what they did into the dodd-frank legislation, effectively breaking the law and then writing a law to cover it after the fact.

You are probably the only person I know that knows that. The general public is too dumb to understand what really happened with the bailouts and the laws that came afterwards.

FBD
01-09-2013, 03:52 PM
Its all right out there for you to find, you just have to look and ask the right questions. And some folks around here wonder why I'm sounding like a crazy zealot...its because our government is fucking lawless and I've realized it and I'm pissed. Why do you think there's such a huge push for gun control...because TPTB realize they are in a very precarious position right now and stand to lose it all of their charade fails...and at the same time they have never ever EVER been so close to achieving their goal...

Acid Trip
01-09-2013, 09:25 PM
UPDATE:

Facing a certain backlash from Washington and beyond, American International Group won't be joining a shareholder lawsuit against the U.S. government. AIG was legally obligated to consider joining the lawsuit.

My guess is 99.9% of America didn't know AIG was legally obligated to consider the suit since it's coming from their shareholders. They'll just fume about big business, banks, insurance, blah blah.

Muddy
01-09-2013, 09:54 PM
Death to Bernie Maddoff!! :villagers:

perrhaps
01-09-2013, 09:55 PM
UPDATE:

Facing a certain backlash from Washington and beyond, American International Group won't be joining a shareholder lawsuit against the U.S. government. AIG was legally obligated to consider joining the lawsuit.

My guess is 99.9% of America didn't know AIG was legally obligated to consider the suit since it's coming from their shareholders. They'll just fume about big business, banks, insurance, blah blah.



Exactly right. Just look at the title placed on this largely-inaccurate story.

FBD
01-09-2013, 10:30 PM
Death to Bernie Maddoff!! :villagers:
and to the rest of the frauds....death may be harsh, maybe exile to north korea :lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
01-09-2013, 10:34 PM
and to the rest of the frauds....death may be harsh, maybe exile to north korea :lol:

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