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Teh One Who Knocks
01-30-2013, 12:00 PM
By Shannon Bream - FOX News


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As Congress debates various gun control measures, President Obama is publicly putting the heat on Capitol Hill.

"The only way that we're going to be able to do everything that needs to be done is with the cooperation of Congress," he said Monday while hosting law enforcement officials from around the country.

But Supporters of tougher gun controls are growing increasingly worried lawmakers won't pass any substantial measures and have begun to focus their efforts elsewhere. A number of Obama allies across the country have called on public employee pension funds to divest of any holdings linked to the gun industry.

"City of Los Angeles pension funds should not go to profit companies that produce weapons designed to maximize carnage and death," Mayor Antonia Villaraigosa vowed.

Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, a former Obama White House chief of staff, has made the same commitment and gone a step further. Emanuel has authored letters to Bank of America and TD Bank because they maintain multimillion-dollar lines of credit for major gun manufacturers. In the letters, Emanuel urges the banks to use their influence to "push" the manufacturers to go along with the president's tough new gun controls.

Lawrence Keane, general counsel for the National Shooting Sports Foundation, responded: "It's classic Rahm Emanuel Chicago politics -- try to bully and pressure our industry into somehow agreeing with the proposals that are being advanced by antigun mayors like him."

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, sent his own letter Tuesday, telling the banks, "Should Mayor Emanuel's bullying campaign prove successful, I am confident that there are numerous financial institutions in Texas that would be eager to earn your business."

Other gun control supporters are urging the president to use the "enormous" powers of the Executive Branch in order to go around Congress if necessary. Richard Aborn, once head of the Brady Campaign to End Gun Violence and now president of the Citizens Crime Commission of New York, says the move may be necessary because lawmakers are under extreme pressure not to pass new restrictions.

"The NRA knows how to mobilize," Aborn says, adding, "Their rhetoric will be extreme to scare their membership and they will threaten to take down any member that votes for in the affirmative for gun control."

A number of groups are also suing the Environmental Protection Agency in an effort to force it to regulate ammunition that contains lead. To date, the EPA has declined, but critics say that's because of political pressure from gun rights groups. The Center for Biodiversity is a party to the lawsuit, and its Senior Counsel Bill Snape says the move is only logical.

"We've gotten the lead out of paint, gotten the lead out of gasoline but for some odd reason, the EPA decided that, no, with lead bullets - that's okay," he said.

FBD
01-30-2013, 02:12 PM
Still looking for Keane's beatdown of congress...will post if I find it. He made them look like a bunch of asses with analogies.

Acid Trip
01-30-2013, 02:17 PM
Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, sent his own letter Tuesday, telling the banks, "Should Mayor Emanuel's bullying campaign prove successful, I am confident that there are numerous financial institutions in Texas that would be eager to earn your business."


Hell yeah! Grab your money (and guns) and head down to the greatest state in the Union.

:TexasPride:

KevinD
01-30-2013, 02:57 PM
Still looking for Keane's beatdown of congress...will post if I find it. He made them look like a bunch of asses with analogies.

I'd like to see that!


Hell yeah! Grab your money (and guns) and head down to the greatest state in the Union.

:TexasPride:

BUT, leave your liberal politics at home, unless you move to Austin that is...lol

Southern Belle
01-30-2013, 03:00 PM
Where do these idiots come up with these ideas? Rahm Emmanuel must be losing his mind.

Muddy
01-30-2013, 03:21 PM
Hell yeah! Grab your money (and guns) and head down to the greatest state in the Union.

:TexasPride:

Virginia's not too shabby herself..

FBD
01-30-2013, 03:25 PM
cant find it (was sorta inside info anyway)...apparently the entire room was laughing at a certain senator and they had to call order :dance:

KevinD
01-30-2013, 03:29 PM
Where do these idiots come up with these ideas? Rahm Emmanuel must be losing his mind.

Saul Alinski, among others...If you do some research and reading, it will scare the bejeebus out of you.

FBD
01-30-2013, 03:43 PM
yeah, if you read what Cloward and Piven wanted to do....well, if you havent, you dont really need to, because you're watching it happen. But I'd suggest going and reading anyway, then you'll see this shit is all by design.


...as we read the headlines "even with 'fiscal cliff deal,' US still on target for 200% debt to GDP"...

Acid Trip
01-30-2013, 04:38 PM
So how are those super strict gun control laws working for Democrat controlled Chicago?

CHICAGO (CBS) – A teenage girl–an honor student who had just performed at President Obama’s inaugural address–was gunned down Tuesday afternoon in the Kenwood neighborhood, just blocks from the high school she attended.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/29/15-year-old-girl-shot-and-killed-in-kenwood-neighborhood-park/

FBD
01-30-2013, 05:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri9ioCbqJCU

Griffin
01-30-2013, 09:42 PM
at least some of these morons have finally figured out that it's not the guns but the potential of lead poisoning that is the real issue. :rolleyes:

Loser
01-31-2013, 05:07 AM
Obama already asked USDOJ whether or not he could use executive powers to repass the AWB by bypassing congress, he cannot. It would be shot down in court.

So this thread is moot.

RBP
01-31-2013, 05:24 AM
So how are those super strict gun control laws working for Democrat controlled Chicago?

CHICAGO (CBS) – A teenage girl–an honor student who had just performed at President Obama’s inaugural address–was gunned down Tuesday afternoon in the Kenwood neighborhood, just blocks from the high school she attended.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/29/15-year-old-girl-shot-and-killed-in-kenwood-neighborhood-park/

Haven't you heard... it's not because Chicago attempts to have strict gun laws, it's because other areas do not. I about spit out my dinner when I heard that spewed on tv.

RBP
01-31-2013, 05:50 AM
So how are those super strict gun control laws working for Democrat controlled Chicago?

CHICAGO (CBS) – A teenage girl–an honor student who had just performed at President Obama’s inaugural address–was gunned down Tuesday afternoon in the Kenwood neighborhood, just blocks from the high school she attended.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/29/15-year-old-girl-shot-and-killed-in-kenwood-neighborhood-park/

Here's the WSJ article as an additional reference point.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323926104578274361192116192.html

It makes me sick that they use these incidents for political fodder. Wtf does a random gang shooting have to do with Sandy Hook or laws restricting legal posession of guns? Fucking nothing! So stop the bullshit!

Also, stop saying "Chicago" is so awful... certain gang infested south and west side ghettos are killing fields... but that's it.

RBP
01-31-2013, 06:00 AM
and furthermore, the ghettos and gang cultures are inbred into those neighborhoods by a history of politics of dependency. The same politicians that created that failed dependency then blame legal gun ownership for the violence? :huh:

But no, don't fix the real issues, that would mean admitting how much they have fucked up for the last 40 years. Instead make impassioned pleas to restrict legal gun ownership. Brilliant.

My FOID card has expired. I no longer own guns. I could see an argument for further restrictions. However, I am so turned off by the lying and the lack of accountability for the real root problems that my attitude is "fuck you."

KevinD
02-01-2013, 02:15 AM
RBP, I hear you brother, and I understand, but, what you have to understand is that this is exactly what TPTB want you to do: Give up. Stand your ground, make your voice heard, and rest assured you have folks that agree and will stand beside you...Carry on young man, carry on.