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Teh One Who Knocks
02-06-2013, 12:23 PM
David Cenciotti - The Aviationist


http://i.imgur.com/O6pjYVr.jpg

On Feb. 1, 2013, Iran unveiled its indigenous fighter jet named "Qaher 313″. The prototype of the Q-313 (or F-313 according to the stencils applied to the aircraft), was presented to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and publicly displayed as part of the Ten-Day Dawn ceremonies held in Iran to celebrate the 1979′s victory of the Islamic Revolution.

In the previous days, the Iranian Defense Minister Brigadier General Ahmad Vahidi had said, "The aircraft will be different from the other fighter jets Iran has already made."

Iran's new fighter jet doesn't look like any we've ever seen before. Turns out, as The Aviationist explains, that's because it maybe possibly almost definitely can't fly.

http://i.imgur.com/30I1GjO.jpg

Indeed, based on the first photographs released by the FARS News Agency, the new stealthy jet has a really peculiar design. It features hard edges and those distinctive edges and angle of the U.S. F-22 and the twin tail shape much similar to that of the F-35 Lightning II.

http://i.imgur.com/JZ6thzw.jpg

The Q-313 has large, seemingly fixed canards, and little wings whose external section is canted downward.

The canopy material is at least odd (based on its transparency, it looks like plexiglass or something like that).

The cockpit seems to be basic (a bit too much for a modern plane – note the lack of wiring behind the front panel and the presence of few instruments, some of those similar to those equipping small private planes…)

http://i.imgur.com/jPAr4Yl.jpg

The nose section is so small almost no radar could fit in it.

The air intakes are extremely small (they remind those of current drones/unmanned combat aerial vehicles) whereas the engine section lacks any kind of nozzle: engine afterburners could melt the entire jet.

http://i.imgur.com/rmz6gM0.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1EXRJDo.jpg

And, above all, the aircraft is way to small.

Look at the following image showing an Iranian officer sitting on the ejection seat in the cockpit.

http://i.imgur.com/YIDWXf6.jpg

It looks like this pilot is in a miniature plane.

http://i.imgur.com/ogAHOXN.jpg

Summing up: the shape is interesting with some innovative features but the Q-313 displayed on Feb. 1, 2013, seems to be nothing more than a large mock up model (not properly sized to accommodate a real pilot….).

Update:

There is a video allegedly showing the Q-313 in the air. Here it is.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ok2aMgfBdCs

Even if it is not the first flight of the aircraft as some of The Aviationist readers say, the way the depicted plane flies is suspect. It seems a radio-controlled scale model more than a modern fighter jet.

Furthermore, as someone pointed out: if the Qaher 313 actually flew, most probably Tehran would release footage of its takeoff and landing.

redred
02-06-2013, 12:42 PM
come on give them a chance :lol: they want to play war as well

Acid Trip
02-06-2013, 01:54 PM
That's a cool model airplane Iran has. How many batteries does it take?

FBD
02-06-2013, 02:02 PM
:haha:

Teh One Who Knocks
02-12-2013, 03:16 PM
By Kerry Mcdermott - The Daily Mail


Iran's freshly unveiled fighter jet has already been derided by aviation experts who likened the plane to a mock-up model and expressed serious doubts over whether it could actually fly.

And a new picture of the domestically produced Qaher-313 apparently soaring over Iranian mountains has done little to curb scepticism, amid claims the plane never actually left the ground but was simply superimposed over the snow-capped peaks using Photoshop.

Iran, which unveiled the stealth fighter jet at a ceremony attended by President Mahmoud Admadinejad earlier this month, claims its aircraft is capable of evading radar, carrying weapons and flying at low altitude.

http://i.imgur.com/z7SjZO1.png

But when the picture of the jet supposedly in flight was published on the Khouz News website, eagle-eyed Iranians quickly pointed out the similarities between the image and a picture of the aircraft taken at the official unveiling in Tehran on February 2, according to a France 24 report.

The two pictures of the plane are identical save for the backdrop, with the Tehran aircraft hangar replaced by Iran's Mount Damavand in the so-called action shot of the Qaher-313.

http://i.imgur.com/iOVLkJO.png

Aviation experts who examined photographs of Iran's jet at its unveiling drew comparisons with a miniature plane.

David Cenciotti, of The Aviationist blog, said the jet appeared to be 'nothing more than a large mock-up model' and that the 'basic' cockpit would struggle to even accommodate a pilot.

http://i.imgur.com/SCjPPW8.jpg

His views were echoed by experts from aviation magazine Flight International, who said they suspected poor-quality footage released by Iran of the aircraft in flight was in fact of a remote-controlled plane fashioned to resemble the Qaher-313.

The president of the Islamic republic insisted at the unveiling that the Qaher-313 reflected Iran's will to 'conquer scientific peaks'.

Defence Minister Ahmad Vahidi said the jet had been designed and built by Iranian aerospace experts and was capable of flying at low altitude, carrying weapons, engaging enemy aircraft and landing at short airstrips.

http://i.imgur.com/BtaYgtc.jpg

It is one of several military designs rolled out by Iran's military since 2007.

Tehran has repeatedly claimed to have developed advanced military technologies in recent years but its claims cannot be independently verified because the country does not release technical details of its arsenals.

The Islamic republic launched a self-sufficiency military program in the 1980s to compensate for a Western weapons embargo that banned export of military technology and equipment to Iran.

redred
02-12-2013, 03:38 PM
:facepalm:

Muddy
02-12-2013, 04:54 PM
:lol:

Acid Trip
02-12-2013, 05:00 PM
http://i.imgur.com/z7SjZO1.png

:bwaha:

The reflection of the hanger lights made it onto the Photoshopped version flying above the mountains.

FBD
02-12-2013, 05:35 PM
:haha:

Muddy
02-12-2013, 06:02 PM
Somebody needs to shop Beyonke inside it.. :lol:

Acid Trip
02-12-2013, 06:07 PM
Hell, even the blue LEDs reflecting off the plane's bottom/tail end made it into the mountain pic.

PorkChopSandwiches
02-12-2013, 06:51 PM
Sad when a country had to resort to photoshop.....oh wait :birthcertificate:

Muddy
02-12-2013, 06:52 PM
Sad when a country had to resort to photoshop.....oh wait :birthcertificate:

Too bad you voted him in office.

PorkChopSandwiches
02-12-2013, 06:53 PM
:dance:

Hal-9000
02-12-2013, 06:57 PM
Hell, even the blue LEDs reflecting off the plane's bottom/tail end made it into the mountain pic.


saw that too :lol:

FBD
02-12-2013, 07:14 PM
Sad when a country had to resort to photoshop.....oh wait :birthcertificate:

:haha:

Hal-9000
02-12-2013, 07:18 PM
oh yeah Iran?????


I have been given permission to unveil Canada's new stealth fighter, complete with dual pilots in flight


please don't repost

http://i49.tinypic.com/34yy32r.jpg

Acid Trip
02-12-2013, 08:30 PM
oh yeah Iran?????


I have been given permission to unveil Canada's new stealth fighter, complete with dual pilots in flight


please don't repost

http://i49.tinypic.com/34yy32r.jpg

:rofl:

Hal-9000
02-12-2013, 08:40 PM
you should see our naval fleet...nothing strikes fear into the hearts of your enemies like 50 canoes being paddled at full bore :x

PorkChopSandwiches
02-12-2013, 08:42 PM
http://www.snrrecords.com/personal/20090408canadanavy.jpg

FBD
02-12-2013, 08:46 PM
ROFL I would love to see that thing fired

PorkChopSandwiches
02-12-2013, 08:47 PM
While he speeds across the water in reverse :lol:

Hal-9000
02-12-2013, 08:47 PM
ROFL I would love to see that thing fired

thinking it would probably go about 10 knots faster backwards when firing :lol:

FBD
02-12-2013, 08:51 PM
:lol: if it fired as is with that angle in that pic I think the boat would capsize

Teh One Who Knocks
02-13-2013, 01:15 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Mv0eeot.gif

It flies! :shock:

FBD
02-13-2013, 01:53 PM
:lol:

PorkChopSandwiches
02-13-2013, 05:26 PM
:lol: