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Teh One Who Knocks
02-07-2013, 12:21 PM
United Press Int'l


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FactCheck.org called out Senator Harry Reid for being doubly wrong in his claim that Congress has already cut $2.6 trillion from projected future deficits by reducing non-defense programs alone.

The site explained that not only did the legislation he referred to applied to both security and non-security spending, but that a considerable part of the deficit reduction came from tax increases and not spending cuts.

The worst part? The senator made the same erroneous statement twice. Reid made the affirmations on ABC's "This Week" on Feb. 3rd, were he also added that further deficit reduction should include more tax increases and cuts in military spending.


"The American people need to understand that it's not as if we've done nothing for the debt. $2.6 trillion, $2.6 trillion already we've made in cuts. And all those cuts have come from non-defense programs. We need to keep our eye on the prize and continue doing something about spending, but I think that what we need to do is do some of the things that Mitt Romney talked about. He said there's some low-hanging fruit; there are a lot of tax loopholes that should be closed. I agree with him. We haven't done that.," he said.

Later on, after host George Stephanopoulos probed the Senator on the issue, he repeated his claim saying,


"I repeat: $2.6 trillion already, all coming from non-defense. If we're going to have a sequester, defense is going to have to do their share"

According to FactCheck.org Reid inflated the $2.6 trillion figure for the show. The senator referred to the same figure as being $100 billion less, three days before on the Senate Floor.

“We have already made nearly $2.5 trillion in historic, bipartisan deficit reduction,” he said on the floor Jan. 31.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=u0Xb6Mtc1AY

FBD
02-07-2013, 01:55 PM
When you get away with saying whatever you frickin feel like and the media faithfully reports it as truth, is it any wonder we hear such ridiculous crap out of their mouths?

RBP
02-07-2013, 02:17 PM
Waitwut? This is all a shell game.

They haven't actually "cut" anything... NOTHING. They have increased taxes (mostly offset by NEW spending) and have agreed to arbitrary "caps" on FUTURE appropriations bills. My translation is that these "cuts" are just changes in how they calculate future spending. And even if they do end up reducing something it will simply be a reduction in the growth of spending, not an actual cut.

Feel free to tell me where I am wrong.

FBD
02-07-2013, 02:30 PM
:lol: that entire 60 billion tax increase just went straight to corporate subsidies...

that's why I said if all your economic calculations explicitly assume that "government spending" = "increased GDP" then you have a GIGO result that is entirely misleading, worse than worthless in that it will explicitly send you in the wrong direction.

kinda like with the climate models that assume a ridiculous warming coefficient for CO2. you will NOT get a reliable result from it no matter how hard you torture the equations. you can even waterboard the equations and they wont comply :dance:


speaking of waterboarding...lmao...

David Burge @iowahawkblog

Is it okay to waterboard somebody who's on fire from a drone strike? #AsktheDOJ

Southern Belle
02-07-2013, 03:10 PM
They continue to lie. At least SOMEBODY called them out on it.

Acid Trip
02-07-2013, 03:13 PM
Keep telling a lie long enough and people will eventually believe it's true. It's one of the rules for radicals, duh!

FBD
02-07-2013, 03:45 PM
all is well

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-06/guest-post-all-well