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FBD
02-19-2013, 07:28 PM
http://www.examiner.com/article/ny-state-bill-to-require-liability-insurance-as-condition-of-gun-ownership

A bill was introduced in the State Assembly by Felix Ortiz (D-Brooklyn) that would require citizens of New York to acquire liability insurance as a condition to gun ownership.

Bill S2353 will require all gun owners in NY to obtain and "continuously maintain" insurance coverage of at least $1 million, or they will suffer "immediate revocation of such owner's registration, license and any other privilege to own" a firearm.

If the citizen fails to obtain the insurance, then by simply owning the firearm, they will be in violation of the law.

This bill was introduced by Assemblyman Ortiz as an amendment to the current NY State Insurance Law.

Specifically, the bill's provisions include:

"Any person in this state who shall own a firearm shall, prior to such ownership, obtain and continuously maintain a policy of liability insurance in an amount not less than one million dollars specifically covering any damages resulting from any negligent or willful acts involving the use of such firearm while it is owned by such person"(http://bit.ly/VlmLwR).
Assemblyman Jimmy Gomez of Los Angeles introduced AB 231, along with Assemblyman Philip Ting, of San Francisco on Feb 5th.
Bill would force gun owners to buy liability insurance .

For anyone who already owns a gun at the time the bill becomes law, that person has 30 days to buy the insurance.

If the gun is lost or stolen, it must be reported to the police. If a crime is committed by the gun before its loss or theft is reported to the police, the previous owner is liable.

The bill does not specifically state that the gun will be confiscated or that the gun owner must surrender the gun, but will lose their legal "privilege" to own a gun.

It is estimated that simple liability insurance for $1 million in coverage for gun owners would cost between $1600-2000 annually. That additional financial burden to own a gun will be prohibitively expensive for many NY State citizens. Gun ownership will no longer be an option with the additional cost from obtaining liability insurance.

The law would take effect 19 days after being signed by the governor, and the state will be empowered to write any additional regulations as necessary to enforce the law.

Bill S2353 in New York is similar to a bill introduced in California, Maryland and Massachusetts that also requires all gun owners to obtain liability insurance. To date, none of these bills have become law.

This comes one month after Governor Andrew Cuomo signed the NY SAFE Act into law. The SAFE Act restricts gun ownership and bans ammunition magazines that are capable of holding more than seven rounds.

Opposition to the SAFE Act has been growing among the state's county legislatures and sheriffs as local resolutions are passed urging the law's repeal. There is also a "2nd Amendment Rally" planned in Albany on Feb 28th to protest the new gun law.

The bill in New York was referred to the Assembly's Insurance Committee.

Lambchop
02-19-2013, 07:31 PM
Sounds good?

Same as having insurance for driving right?

perrhaps
02-19-2013, 07:37 PM
Memo to Felix:

Not a good idea to sponsor a bill that would result in 75% of your constituency relocating to Rikers Island.

Hugh_Janus
02-19-2013, 07:46 PM
Sounds good?

Same as having insurance for driving right?

don't be silly :lol:

minz
02-19-2013, 07:52 PM
I agree with Mr chop. :tup:

RBP
02-19-2013, 07:53 PM
:rolleyes:

FBD
02-19-2013, 07:56 PM
As if the insurance scam isnt already garnering enough money as it is. (That's part of the problem, scam is priced right into it.)

Hal-9000
02-19-2013, 08:32 PM
as long as the premiums aren't horrible, wouldn't this be a good idea?

perrhaps
02-19-2013, 08:37 PM
as long as the premiums aren't horrible, wouldn't this be a good idea?

No insurance company in the U.S. would write a policy that included coverage for intentional criminal behavior.

For example; Killing your spouse, and then yourself would make your kids millionaires.

DemonGeminiX
02-19-2013, 09:22 PM
This is the most idiotic thing I've read thus far.

And my dental hygienist was just telling me about her husband's and her guns... then proceeded to tell me that I absolutely must get a gun (because I don't have one yet).

redred
02-19-2013, 09:26 PM
Why haven't you got one ? Get one its your right you must have one ,call yourself an American

DemonGeminiX
02-19-2013, 09:28 PM
Why haven't you got one ? Get one its your right you must have one ,call yourself an American

Well, I never thought about it until the robberies down the street back in '09. The culprits were arrested in my backyard (I went to high school with the arresting officer :lol: ). Between that and all this bullshit, now I fully intend to. I may get several.

redred
02-19-2013, 09:46 PM
You need 3 one for each hand the third you hold in you teeth and pull the trigger with your tongue

DemonGeminiX
02-19-2013, 09:54 PM
You need 3 one for each hand the third you hold in you teeth and pull the trigger with your tongue

I figured one semi-auto handgun, one 12 or 20-gauge single barrel pump action shotgun, and something else to be named later.

redred
02-19-2013, 09:57 PM
The hello kitty rifle

DemonGeminiX
02-19-2013, 10:05 PM
I'm not really much for Hello Kitty...

Acid Trip
02-19-2013, 10:07 PM
I figured one semi-auto handgun, one 12 or 20-gauge single barrel pump action shotgun, and something else to be named later.

:hand:

Giving your penis a name does not make it a firearm.

redred
02-19-2013, 10:09 PM
I'm not really much for Hello Kitty...

:lol:

DemonGeminiX
02-19-2013, 10:14 PM
:hand:

Giving your penis a name does not make it a firearm.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kU0XCVey_U

RBP
02-19-2013, 10:21 PM
as long as the premiums aren't horrible, wouldn't this be a good idea?


It is estimated that simple liability insurance for $1 million in coverage for gun owners would cost between $1600-2000 annually.

They would be, and it's just a form of gun control. Nothing more.

Pony
02-19-2013, 10:30 PM
Add me to the list of folks who will have an unlicensed, unregistered gun with no insurance.

And the difference between this and car insurance is I drive my car everyday potentially putting others at risk. The gun would be at home where if someone else is at risk of me shooting them it's because they just broke in. I'm not paying 1600-2000 bucks for that.

Griffin
02-19-2013, 10:41 PM
I only have 2 questions.
1) What is this extortion policy supposed to cover while my gun is locked in my safe? My softball bat and kitchen cutlery are lying out in the open with no additional liability coverage needed.
2) Who is going to enforce criminals that refuse to pay for their coverage?

Hal-9000
02-19-2013, 11:00 PM
I figured one semi-auto handgun, one 12 or 20-gauge single barrel pump action shotgun, and something else to be named later.

If yer in Georgia....the pump action shotgun is a must








oh yeah....Justified is on tonight :lol:

Hal-9000
02-19-2013, 11:01 PM
No insurance company in the U.S. would write a policy that included coverage for intentional criminal behavior.

For example; Killing your spouse, and then yourself would make your kids millionaires.

good point...this will kill the US court system if it somehow passes.

DemonGeminiX
02-19-2013, 11:20 PM
If yer in Georgia....the pump action shotgun is a must

oh yeah....Justified is on tonight :lol:

:hand:

They're in Kentucky.

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Ok, that made me laugh, you punk. :lol:

Hal-9000
02-19-2013, 11:33 PM
yea-up...I know they're down in Harlan County...just east of the Appalachians


:lol: leave me alone

Lambchop
02-19-2013, 11:58 PM
Add me to the list of folks who will have an unlicensed, unregistered gun with no insurance.

And the difference between this and car insurance is I drive my car everyday potentially putting others at risk. The gun would be at home where if someone else is at risk of me shooting them it's because they just broke in. I'm not paying 1600-2000 bucks for that.

Can't you guys open/concealed carry in NY? I would have thought the insurance applied to that.