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Teh One Who Knocks
02-28-2013, 10:26 PM
By Liz Goodwin, Yahoo! News | The Ticket


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Civil rights leaders are up in arms over Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia's skeptical questions about a key portion of the Voting Rights Act, a cornerstone of the civil rights movement that brought an end to Jim Crow-era racial discrimination at the polls in the South.

In oral arguments over the law on Wednesday, Scalia, a stalwart of the court's conservative wing, suggested that the Voting Rights Act was overwhelmingly reauthorized in 2006 by Congress because the nation's politicians were afraid to oppose a "racial entitlement."

Scalia said that each time the Voting Rights Act has been reauthorized in the past 50 years, more and more senators supported it, even though the problem of racial discrimination at the polls has decreased over that time. "Now, I don't think that's attributable to the fact that it is so much clearer now that we need this," he said. "I think it is attributable, very likely attributable, to a phenomenon that is called perpetuation of racial entitlement. It's been written about. Whenever a society adopts racial entitlements, it is very difficult to get out of them through the normal political processes."

The Supreme Court was hearing arguments from Shelby County, Ala., that the nine states and assorted counties covered under the 1965 law no longer need special federal oversight to prevent them from discriminating against black voters.

Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., a major figure in the civil rights movement who was a former chairman of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee, said on MSNBC that he was appalled by the comment. “It is an affront to all of what the civil rights movement stood for, what people died for, what people bled for, and those of us who marched across that bridge 48 years ago, we didn’t march for some racial entitlement,” he said. “We wanted to open up the political process and let all of the people come in, and it didn’t matter whether they were black or white, Latino, Asian-American or Native American.”


NAACP President Ben Jealous told ABC News, "The protection of the right to vote is an American entitlement. It is a democratic entitlement. And those who would seek to use incendiary rhetoric from the bench of the Supreme Court should think twice about their place in history."

The Rev. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson also criticized his remark.

Later on Wednesday, Justice Sonia Sotomayor appeared to indirectly reprimand Scalia for the comment, asking Shelby County's attorney Bert Rein whether he believes the right to vote protected under the act is a racial entitlement. Rein answered, "No."

Spencer Overton, a law professor at George Washington University and a fellow at the liberal think tank Demos, told Yahoo News that Scalia's comment represented a "political assumption that has no place in a court of law. His assumption raises questions about his ability to approach this case in an impartial manner, and it also suggests that the question of the persistence of voting discrimination is best left to Congress," Overton wrote in an email.

Justices often make controversial comments or ask provocative questions during oral arguments, and it's very difficult to predict a case's outcome simply by listening to the justices question the attorneys. But most court-watchers emerged from the oral arguments believing the portion of the Voting Rights Act that singles out states and counties with a history of racial discrimination at the polls—most of them in the South—will be struck down. Discriminating against minority voters would still be illegal under the act, but people who hope to challenge discriminatory actions would have to do so through the regular court process, which takes longer than the special pathway set up under the law.

Teh One Who Knocks
03-01-2013, 11:37 AM
Where's Whitey? I thought he would be all over this :-k

FBD
03-01-2013, 12:42 PM
Scalia said that each time the Voting Rights Act has been reauthorized in the past 50 years, more and more senators supported it, even though the problem of racial discrimination at the polls has decreased over that time. "Now, I don't think that's attributable to the fact that it is so much clearer now that we need this," he said. "I think it is attributable, very likely attributable, to a phenomenon that is called perpetuation of racial entitlement. It's been written about. Whenever a society adopts racial entitlements, it is very difficult to get out of them through the normal political processes."

The Supreme Court was hearing arguments from Shelby County, Ala., that the nine states and assorted counties covered under the 1965 law no longer need special federal oversight to prevent them from discriminating against black voters.

Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., a major figure in the civil rights movement who was a former chairman of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee, said on MSNBC that he was appalled by the comment. “It is an affront to all of what the civil rights movement stood for, what people died for, what people bled for, and those of us who marched across that bridge 48 years ago, we didn’t march for some racial entitlement,” he said. “We wanted to open up the political process and let all of the people come in, and it didn’t matter whether they were black or white, Latino, Asian-American or Native American.”


NAACP President Ben Jealous told ABC News, "The protection of the right to vote is an American entitlement. It is a democratic entitlement. And those who would seek to use incendiary rhetoric from the bench of the Supreme Court should think twice about their place in history."

yyyyeah....until you look at the actual details here...

the piece of the act in question had some strong opposition when it was created, and had a sunset provision in it.

that opposition has gradually dwindled down to ZERO, wrt congressional votes.

the "constitutional" issue is that this singles out some localities and treats them differently and holds them to a different standard than others. it is simply constitutionally dubious to charge a few areas with an increased standard for voting stuffz because racism existed at some point in the locality. I mean this is even down to "cant move the polling location to the new town school without a 60 day DoJ review process."

then toss in the fact that in the last 10 years, less than .1% of reviews did the DoJ have even so much as a question about it - the other 99.9% are approved with no question, modification, anything.

but since this is "the voting rights act" it is simply political suicide for anyone to bring a bill to end the related bureaucracy. this is doing our legislature a favor in eliminating waste that is politically named and would NEVER get voted against, and it is doing the people a favor by eliminating bureaucracy and waste - the resources that go into maintaining this are basically wasted, if you look at the numbers on this one.


then of course the race baiters of the world jump on the racial entitlement language, completely missing what scalia's actual meaning was.

Teh One Who Knocks
03-01-2013, 12:59 PM
Only white people are racist :nono:

Demanding special rights (that aren't even needed anymore) based on the color of your skin is perfectly okay as long as you aren't white :hand:

FBD
03-01-2013, 01:09 PM
:lol: fo real. they act like there's going to be a poll tax, half the blacks are going to be automatically removed from the voter rolls, and cracka ass cracka will be standing in front of the polling station with a nightstick if this section of the law goes the way of the dodo.

RBP
03-01-2013, 01:17 PM
My mother (who is a left wing MSNBC addict) said to me "why would they want to vote against black voting rights, that's just crazy" :facepalm:

As I usually do I calmly tried to explain - to no avail. Reverend Al et al will find any excuse to continue the myth that black civil rights was never achieved.

Teh One Who Knocks
03-01-2013, 01:26 PM
My mother (who is a left wing MSNBC addict) said to me "why would they want to vote against black voting rights, that's just crazy" :facepalm:

As I usually do I calmly tried to explain - to no avail. Reverend Al et al will find any excuse to continue the myth that black civil rights was never achieved.

I feel your pain, my mom is pretty hard core left-wing as well. My dad leans left-wing, but he has come around a lot more lately which is a good thing.

RBP
03-01-2013, 01:37 PM
I feel your pain, my mom is pretty hard core left-wing as well. My dad leans left-wing, but he has come around a lot more lately which is a good thing.

My condolences. :P

My recent favorite was "I think the government should spend more" - good thing I am and fat and lazy or I would have come out of my chair. :lol:

perrhaps
03-01-2013, 01:39 PM
My mother (who is a left wing MSNBC addict) said to me "why would they want to vote against black voting rights, that's just crazy" :facepalm:

As I usually do I calmly tried to explain - to no avail. Reverend Al et al will find any excuse to continue the myth that black civil rights was never achieved.

If it wasn't for all the $$$ he rakes in from his perpetuating the race wars he so lovingly cultivates, Al Sharpton would probably find himself shining my shoes in Penn Station last weekend.

RBP
03-01-2013, 02:01 PM
If it wasn't for all the $$$ he rakes in from his perpetuating the race wars he so lovingly cultivates, Al Sharpton would probably find himself shining my shoes in Penn Station last weekend.

:racist:

FBD
03-01-2013, 05:57 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-sotomayor-kagan-ready-for-battles/2013/02/27/ee1fa09e-812f-11e2-a350-49866afab584_print.html

cripes, Obama's appointees are a couple mouthy bitches

Acid Trip
03-04-2013, 04:10 PM
My mother (who is a left wing MSNBC addict) said to me "why would they want to vote against black voting rights, that's just crazy" :facepalm:

As I usually do I calmly tried to explain - to no avail. Reverend Al et al will find any excuse to continue the myth that black civil rights was never achieved.

Uninformed voters are killing this country. By the time they realize they've been duped it'll be too late.

Muddy
03-04-2013, 04:18 PM
Where's Whitey? I thought he would be all over this :-k

I thought she died from a drug overdose?

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