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PorkChopSandwiches
03-14-2013, 06:37 PM
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It only takes a second and doesnt require a log in. Just click the pic and sign the shit




Dear Friend of Liberty:

The tax-and-spenders in Congress have found another (BIG!) way to pick your pocket.

And you and every other user of the Internet in America are the target of their National Internet Tax Mandate. If passed, this dangerous bill would hand the federal government massive new controls over state tax policies and set the stage for government at all levels to take another helping of your money via the Internet.

So please sign your No National Internet Tax petition to make your voice heard, and please consider making a generous contribution to help Campaign for Liberty recruit more Americans to this vital fight.

No National Internet Tax Petition to:

My U.S. Representative and Senators

Whereas: Tax-and-spenders in Congress never stop looking for ways to pick Americans' pockets with higher taxes; and

Whereas: Members of BOTH parties are scheming to ram a new National Internet Tax Mandate into law; and

Whereas: Under the National Internet Tax Mandate, all Americans would see their taxes go up as big spending governors of BOTH parties work with IRS goons to implement a state sales tax on ALL goods purchased online; and

Whereas: Tax collectors in one state would now be free to pursue retailers across state lines; and

Whereas: New and higher taxes would CRUSH economic growth and set the stage for massive new regulations that threaten the very existence of the Internet; and

Whereas: Such a scheme would play right into the hands of one-world socialists at the U.N., who have just drafted a massive “Telecommunications Treaty” designed to regulate, CENSOR, and tax the Internet globally;

Therefore: As your constituent, I demand you vote against S. 336, the National Internet Tax Mandate (H.R. 684).


http://www.chooseliberty.org/internet_tax.aspx?pid=0314e

RBP
03-14-2013, 07:31 PM
I think it's the same with other states, but in Illinois you owe sales tax to the state for purchases made on line. Just that nobody pays it.

PorkChopSandwiches
03-14-2013, 08:41 PM
CA requires we pay tax on Amazon purchases we make from sellers in CA, but not on anything sold out of state, this would "fix" that

RBP
03-14-2013, 11:45 PM
CA requires we pay tax on Amazon purchases we make from sellers in CA, but not on anything sold out of state, this would "fix" that

Incorrect. It's just not called sales tax. It's called "use tax" - but you still legally owe the money and the rates are generally the same as the state-wide sales tax.

http://i47.tinypic.com/2pzmjr7.jpg

http://www.boe.ca.gov/ads/news06.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_tax

Again, I don't know all 50 state tax laws of course, but at least for you and I, this law changes nothing about what we are legally required to pay. Like I said though, very few people actually pay it now.

Muddy
03-14-2013, 11:53 PM
I signed it

RBP
03-15-2013, 02:10 AM
My thinking on this is evolving - I am still opposed to internet specific taxes, but this is different. Brick and mortar stores are having to get more aggressive to be competitive. Once a completely rejected idea, you now see stores price matching online retailers. Target and Best Buy are two large retailers that recently announced expanded price matching options. But even if they price match, they are still at a 7-10% (depending on the county in Illinois) competitive disadvantage because of the sales tax collection rules and because I rarely ever pay for shipping. Take the monitor I just bought from Newegg.com for $109.99 with no sales tax and no shipping cost. Even if a local store could price match, there's a $10 price difference for taxes.

As I posted earlier in this thread, I technically owe Illinois about $5 for use tax on the monitor purchase, but they'll never get it. I won't argue whether I should or should not pony up that cash. I'm just saying it's taxes they aren't getting that they are entitled to collect based on state law.

Newegg and Tigerdirect compete on line. From Tigerdirect I pay state sales tax because they have stores here. From Newegg I do not. So my business has shifted to a company that has made no investment in my state unless I need something the same day. I do question whether that makes sense.

I know you guys couldn't give a shit though. It will cost us money we aren't paying now, so it's a bad thing, right?

I agree with most issues from Campaign for Liberty, but I am less enthusiastic about this one. It's not a tax increase technically, it's a tax collection mechanism for money that is probably owed anyway (state rules may vary).

Having said all that, it's most likely against the law to make this rule change or enforce it, so even if it passes it will likely get ruled unconstitutional.

I know, I know... :tldr: