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Teh One Who Knocks
04-04-2013, 11:52 AM
By Allison Sherry - The Denver Post


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WASHINGTON — Democratic Rep. Diana DeGette has been the lead sponsor on a federal ban on high-capacity ammunition magazines in two Congresses, saying it’s one of her top priorities.

But Tuesday at a Denver Post forum on the gun control debate, the senior congresswoman from Denver appeared to not understand how guns work.

Asked how a ban on magazines holding more than 15 rounds would be effective in reducing gun violence, DeGette said:

“I will tell you these are ammunition, they’re bullets, so the people who have those now they’re going to shoot them, so if you ban them in the future, the number of these high capacity magazines is going to decrease dramatically over time because the bullets will have been shot and there won’t be any more available.”

What she didn’t appear to understand is that a magazine can be reloaded with more bullets. According to the Shooter’s Log, only early on were magazines for AR-15s designed to be disposable, but the military changed that and now magazines are used several times. In handguns, a magazine is designed to be reused hundreds of times.

After her remarks, the audience in the forum at The Denver Post building chuckled.

Larimer County Sheriff Justin Smith, responding as the audience was laughing, urged people who hadn’t shot a gun to “get to the facts … Let’s be educated as we make this decision.”

A conservative blog site criticized the remark Tuesday.

The National Rifle Association was not quite as diplomatic Wednesday in response to DeGette’s comments.

“Two words — pretty stupid,” said NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam.

The Colorado GOP responded, too, on Wednesday.

“It’s extremely alarming that Rep. DeGette is running federal legislation to ban magazine clips, when she doesn’t even know what a magazine clip is,” said spokesman Owen Loftus. “Rep. DeGette’s comments show that Democrats are more concerned with appeasing their radical base, than standing up for responsible, law abiding citizens.”

DeGette’s spokeswoman Juliet Johnson issued a statement Wednesday, saying the congresswoman mispoke.

“The Congresswoman has been working on a high-capacity assault magazine ban for years, and has been deeply involved in the issue; she simply misspoke in referring to ‘magazines’ when she should have referred to ‘clips,’ which cannot be reused because they don’t have a feeding mechanism,” Johnson said. “Quite frankly, this is just another example of opponents of common-sense gun violence prevention trying to manipulate the facts to distract from the critical issue of keeping our children safe and keeping killing machines out of the hands of disturbed individuals. It’s more political gamesmanship that stands in the way of responsible solutions.”

Teh One Who Knocks
04-04-2013, 11:53 AM
These are the types of people that feel they are qualified enough to alter the US Constitution and take away our rights. :suicide:

RBP
04-04-2013, 12:00 PM
:lol: What a moron. And then her office claims it's the other side who are the idiots while at the same time referring to guns as "killing machines."

Teh One Who Knocks
04-04-2013, 09:30 PM
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Here's the vid....idiotic statement comes near the end

PorkChopSandwiches
04-04-2013, 09:38 PM
Fantastic :facepalm:

DemonGeminiX
04-04-2013, 09:59 PM
She's representing Colorado's 1st district. That's Denver.... LANCE??? You put this woman in office, LANCE???

:lol:

RBP
04-04-2013, 10:01 PM
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Here's the vid....idiotic statement comes near the end


We can embed video other than youtube? What is this sorcery!

PorkChopSandwiches
04-04-2013, 10:08 PM
You never saw the list of sites when you click the embedded video icon?

RBP
04-04-2013, 10:12 PM
You never saw the list of sites when you click the embedded video icon?

:-s

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I have never noticed that, but I don't use that button. I just always find it on youtube, enter the url in the response and it auto-embeds. Interesting!!

Teh One Who Knocks
04-04-2013, 10:30 PM
She's representing Colorado's 1st district. That's Denver.... LANCE??? You put this woman in office, LANCE???

:lol:

Not me, I don't live in the City and County of Denver :nono:

Wouldn't matter if I did anywhere, that district is the city proper and they are all flaming liberals :|

Teh One Who Knocks
04-05-2013, 12:05 PM
Dominic Dezzutti - CBS 4 Denver


Both the state and federal battle over proposed gun control bills will have a deep impact on the 2014 election. You can’t have this much emotion and controversy wrapped in an issue and simply see it go away when tensions get high during an election season.

And while comments and votes from elected leaders from both sides of the aisle will be featured in election ads, Rep. Diana DeGette assured herself prime exposure with her comments this week.

While she has publicly said that the criticisms of her comments are simply gun lobby tactics and distortions of what she actually said, unfortunately for Rep. DeGette, her comments need no distortion to sound foolish.

If you missed it, the short version of the story is that during a Denver Post forum on gun control, Rep. DeGette inaccurately said that magazines cannot be re-filled and after the event, her press secretary asserted that she misspoke and meant to say clips cannot be re-filled. Sadly for DeGette, both magazines and clips can be re-filled.

Now if DeGette was being grilled on details of weapon technology while running in between committee meetings and had nothing to do with major gun control legislation, then this may very well be an example of a gotcha moment and gun lobby tactics.

However, Rep. DeGette has sponsored a high capacity magazine bill in Congress for years and has voluntarily put herself out there as a vocal advocate for gun control.

That puts the responsibility for her comments squarely on her shoulders.

Now that the comments are viral the big question is what will these comments mean next year when candidates running in races throughout the nation feature the comments in ads incessantly?

Fair or not, Rep. DeGette’s misstep will not be forgotten mainly because the same gun lobby she accuses of spreading half truths will use her own words against her fellow Democrats everywhere they face a tight battle in districts that have mostly moderate views on guns.

Whether they actually know Rep. DeGette or not, every Democrat running in rural districts that may have problems with some of the proposed gun legislation will appear to be connected directly to her.

The variable at play here is how independent voters will respond to the recent run of gun control proposals in Colorado and on the federal level. Gun control opponents would like to believe that these proposals represent serious overreach. And to many Republican voters, they may very well be right. However, how do the same bills play among unaffiliated voters?

That’s the $64,000 question.

If polls show that unaffiliated voters are even a little bit conservative on gun issues in 2014, we will see and hear Rep. DeGette’s comments ad nauseum during the election season.

That might feel unfair to both Rep. DeGette and those that support her point of view. But the reality is that Democrats would do the very same if a high profile Republican flubbed in a very similar way. And everyone involved knows that is true, whether they want to admit it or not.

All is fair in love, war and politics. And Rep. DeGette is about to find out how fair it can be.

FBD
04-05-2013, 12:08 PM
its just about getting to the point where we really need to split this country in two

DemonGeminiX
04-05-2013, 12:20 PM
Already tried that back in the mid 1800s. Didn't turn out so good.

Acid Trip
04-05-2013, 05:30 PM
Already tried that back in the mid 1800s. Didn't turn out so good.

So you believe that the states who willfully joined the union don't have the right to peaceably leave it?