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Teh One Who Knocks
04-09-2013, 12:11 PM
By NEDRA PICKLER | Associated Press


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HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) — President Barack Obama is providing a ride on Air Force One to 11 relatives of those killed at Connecticut's Sandy Hook Elementary School so they can attend his gun control speech Monday before heading to Washington to personally plead with senators reluctant to back gun legislation.

Before a speech in Hartford, Obama plans to meet privately with relatives of seven children and one staffer killed during December's massacre. Afterward they plan to travel back to Washington on the presidential plane.

The White House says Obama is going to argue in his speech that lawmakers have an obligation to the children killed and other victims of gun violence to allow an up-or-down vote in the Senate. That would require 50 votes to pass, rather than a procedural maneuver some Republican senators are threatening to require 60 votes, potentially sinking the legislation.

"Imagine what they would say to the families of victims in Newtown about why a certain measure never came to a vote because they filibustered it," said White House spokesman Jay Carney.

Majority Leader Harry Reid brought gun control legislation to the Senate floor on Monday, though actual debate did not begin. He took the step after receiving a letter from 13 conservative Republican senators including Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, saying they would use delaying tactics to try preventing lawmakers from beginning to consider the measure. Such a move takes 60 votes to overcome, a difficult hurdle in the 100-member chamber.

The conservatives said the Democratic measure would violate the Second Amendment right to bear arms, citing "history's lesson that government cannot be in all places at all times, and history's warning about the oppression of a government that tries."

Echoing a frequent demand by Obama, Reid said that in the wake of December's killings of 20 first-graders and six educators in Newtown, Conn., Republicans should allow votes on gun control proposals including expanded background checks and bans on assault weapons, saying, "Shame on them."

He added, "The least Republicans owe the parents of those 20 little babies who were murdered at Sandy Hook is a thoughtful debate about whether stronger laws could have saved their little girls and boys."

The Democratic gun legislation would require background checks for buyers in nearly all gun transactions, strengthen laws against illegal gun sales and boost school safety efforts. Spokesman Don Stewart said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., would support the conservatives' delaying tactics if Reid tries bringing that measure to the Senate floor.

Democrats were continuing to hunt GOP support by offering to compromise on the safety check proposal, but so far no deal has been completed.

With Congress returning this week from a spring break, the Sandy Hook families want to speak to senators who have not voiced support for the legislation, to ask for support in memory of their children and the school staff who were killed Dec. 14. They originally planned to travel to Washington earlier on Monday, but the White House offered to give the families a ride so they could also attend Obama's speech before their lobbying push.

The families' trip was organized by Sandy Hook Promise, a nonprofit started by community members in the wake of the shooting. "The group is encouraging senators to come together around legislative proposals that will both save lives and respect the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding Americans," the group said in a statement.

Obama is speaking Monday evening at the University of Hartford, near the state capitol where last week the governor signed into law some of the nation's strictest gun control laws with the Sandy Hook families standing behind him.

But legislation in Washington faces a tougher challenge, as the nation's memories of the shooting fade with time and the National Rifle Association wages a formidable campaign against Obama's proposals. Senators were negotiating Monday in search of an eleventh-hour deal to expand background checks for gun buyers, after weeks of talks had failed to reach a compromise that could win bipartisan support.

Other measures Obama wants are unlikely to pass. Senate leaders say there are not enough votes for an assault weapons ban. Prospects are also bleak for a proposal to limit the number of rounds of ammunition in a single magazine to 10.

With time running out on negotiations, the White House is making an all-hands-on-deck push this week. Vice President Joe Biden and Attorney General Eric Holder planned to promote their plan at the White House on Tuesday with law enforcement officials. First lady Michelle Obama planned to wade into the debate Wednesday with a speech on youth violence in her hometown of Chicago. And on Thursday, Biden was taking part in a discussion on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" with people who have different views on gun control.

Organizing for Action, the grassroots group being formed out of Obama's re-election campaign to support his agenda, said it was launching online ads Monday asking the public to urge their senators to support background checks. The ads will target 11 senators — all Republicans — through Facebook and search engines. An OFA spokesman said the group was not disclosing the cost of the ad campaign.

Gun control is divisive in Newtown, Conn., as in the rest of the country. Not all Sandy Hook families support gun control, and even those involved with the lobbying push organized by Sandy Hook Promise are not backing the assault weapons ban. But those families are asking lawmakers to expand background checks, increase penalties for gun trafficking and limit the size of magazines. The magazine issue has a particular resonance with those families.

Nicole Hockley told The Associated Press in an interview that she wonders if her 6-year-old son, Dylan, might still be alive if shooter Adam Lanza hadn't be able to bring 10 magazines holding 30 rounds each into the school that day. Lanza was able to get off 154 shots during a four-minute rampage in the school. But he stopped shooting briefly in her son's classroom to reload, giving 11 children time to escape.

"They ran for their lives," Hockley said in a telephone interview Friday. "Dylan was not so fortunate. If there were lower capacity magazine clips, there's a chance Dylan would be here with me today."

Hockley plans to introduce Obama in Hartford and sit on stage during the speech with her husband, Ian. The other families who plan to fly on Air Force One include:

— Mark and Jackie Barden — parents of 7-year-old Daniel.

— Nelba Marquez-Greene — mother of 6-year-old Ana.

— Neil Heslin — father of 6-year-old Jesse.

— Jennifer Hensel — mother of 6-year-old Avielle.

— Bill Sherlach — husband of Mary, a 56-year-old school psychologist.

— Ben and Cheyanne Wyatt — parents of 6-year-old Allison.

— David and Francine Wheeler — parents of 6-year-old Ben.

FBD
04-09-2013, 12:19 PM
fkn useful idiots :roll:

hope you guys feel good about being used as state propaganda bent on taking away citizens' rights. may the lot of you reincarnate in north korea.

Teh One Who Knocks
04-09-2013, 12:21 PM
Since when has it been okay to use Air Force One to ferry in people to help you with your political agenda? :|

perrhaps
04-09-2013, 12:47 PM
fkn useful idiots :roll:

hope you guys feel good about being used as state propaganda bent on taking away citizens' rights. may the lot of you reincarnate in north korea.

Yeah, damn them anyway for having dead kids!:nono:

While I don't agree with what Obama's doing here, I don't doubt for a second that these parents are 1,000% sincere in their beliefs.

perrhaps
04-09-2013, 12:48 PM
Since when has it been okay to use Air Force One to ferry in people to help you with your political agenda? :|

When you think you're a rock star, and forget your responsibilities.

Acid Trip
04-09-2013, 01:48 PM
In true Obama fashion he's being a hypocrite. Here is a headline from today:

OBAMA SLAMS REPUBLICANS FOR GUN REFORM STUNTS

http://www.france24.com/en/20130409-obama-slams-republicans-gun-reform-stunts

So what Republicans are doing is a stunt but letting the shooting victims parents ride on AF1 is not? Pants on fire yo!

FBD
04-09-2013, 03:38 PM
Yeah, damn them anyway for having dead kids!:nono:

While I don't agree with what Obama's doing here, I don't doubt for a second that these parents are 1,000% sincere in their beliefs.

heh...I honestly couldnt give two shits whether they are sincere or not, they are being used as regime propaganda - anyone that goes and advocates for unconstitutional things can fuck off in my book. if these brainwashed idiots think that simply tightening gun control is rational - when every last ounce of data shows otherwise - it just says "we live in a pie in the sky fantasy, and things we wish to be true, well, if we wish them hard enough, we can make them true." yeah, fk those people.

Muddy
04-09-2013, 03:51 PM
Since when has it been okay to use Air Force One to ferry in people to help you with your political agenda? :|

Any plane the president rides on becomes air force one. So if they are with him, on any plane.. it's air force one.