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Teh One Who Knocks
05-24-2013, 11:18 AM
By Roberto A. Ferdman - Quartz


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One of Spain’s largest defense splurges may also be one of its most embarrassing. After spending nearly one-third of a $3 billion budget to build four of the world’s most advanced submarines, the project’s engineers have run into a problem: the submarines are so heavy that they would sink to the bottom of the ocean.

Miscalculations by engineers at Navantia, the construction company contracted to build the S-80 submarine fleet, have produced submarines that are each as much as 100 tonnes (110 US tonnes) too heavy. The excess weight sounds paltry compared to the 2,000-plus tonnes (2,205 US tonnes) that each submarine weighs, but it’s more than enough to send the submarines straight to the ocean’s floor.

Given the mistake, Spain is going to have to choose between two costly fixes: slimming the submarines down, or elongating them to compensate for the extra fat. All signs point to the latter, which will be anything but a breeze—adding length will still require redesigning the entire vessel. And more money on top of the $680 million already spent.

Spain’s defense ministry, the government arm responsible for overseeing the project, has yet to say how much the setback will cost in both time and money. But Navantia has already estimated that its mistake will set the project back at least one or, more likely, two years. And the Spanish edition of European news site The Local reported that each additional meter added to the S-80s, already 71 meters in length, will cost over $9 million.

It’s a costly mistake on many fronts. The state-of-the-art submarines were meant to be the first entirely Spanish-designed and built. Incompetence is likely going to cost the country at least some of the glory. Electric Boat, a subsidiary of US-based technology firm General Dynamics, has already evaluated the project and could be hired as a consultant to save the job.

Another bailout for Spain. This is getting all too familiar.

deebakes
05-24-2013, 12:40 PM
:facepalm:

Acid Trip
05-24-2013, 01:27 PM
Spain was never very good at the whole mariner thing (see epic failure of Spanish Armada in 1588).

redred
05-24-2013, 01:30 PM
you'd think with all there money problems stuff like that would be the last thing they'd waste money on

Muddy
05-24-2013, 03:34 PM
Hey man, I give them kudos for at least giving it a shot instead of buying everyone elses scraps...

redred
05-24-2013, 03:36 PM
like canada? :lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
05-24-2013, 03:41 PM
Hey man, I give them kudos for at least giving it a shot instead of buying everyone elses scraps...

At least everyone else's stuff doesn't sink to the bottom of the ocean :hand:


:lmao:

Hal-9000
05-24-2013, 03:46 PM
like canada? :lol:


We'll buy it!


:lol:

Muddy
05-24-2013, 04:11 PM
At least everyone else's stuff doesn't sink to the bottom of the ocean :hand:


:lmao:

You have to crawl before you can walk!

PorkChopSandwiches
05-24-2013, 04:58 PM
Good to see them on the brink of financial failure, but wasting money on Subs to protect land nobody is after

Muddy
05-24-2013, 05:09 PM
Good to see them on the brink of financial failure, but wasting money on Subs to protect land nobody is after

Not my problem.. :d

Hal-9000
05-24-2013, 05:55 PM
that engineer musta got an asskicking :lol:

PorkChopSandwiches
05-24-2013, 05:58 PM
Not my problem.. :d

Ben Bernake has put a trillion US into foreign banks, Im sure Spain got some. So in a sense......

Hal-9000
05-24-2013, 05:59 PM
damn PCS you know a lot about the world around us....you must read in your off hours

PorkChopSandwiches
05-24-2013, 06:14 PM
I like to infuriate myself with keeping up on the fed slowing destroying our country

DemonGeminiX
05-24-2013, 06:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_cwWP5Qf1k

Hal-9000
05-24-2013, 06:23 PM
I like to infuriate myself with keeping up on the fed slowing destroying our country

:thumbsup:

I work with an older quiet East Indian guy, he's 65

He knows more about the politics in my country than half of us born-Canadians do :lol: