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Teh One Who Knocks
08-19-2013, 12:20 PM
By Christina Hoff Sommers - Time Magazine


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As school begins in the coming weeks, parents of boys should ask themselves a question: Is my son really welcome? A flurry of incidents last spring suggests that the answer is no. In May, Christopher Marshall, age 7, was suspended from his Virginia school for picking up a pencil and using it to “shoot” a “bad guy” — his friend, who was also suspended. A few months earlier, Josh Welch, also 7, was sent home from his Maryland school for nibbling off the corners of a strawberry Pop-Tart to shape it into a gun. At about the same time, Colorado’s Alex Evans, age 7, was suspended for throwing an imaginary hand grenade at “bad guys” in order to “save the world.”

In all these cases, school officials found the children to be in violation of the school’s zero-tolerance policies for firearms, which is clearly a ludicrous application of the rule. But common sense isn’t the only thing at stake here. In the name of zero tolerance, our schools are becoming hostile environments for young boys.

Girls occasionally run afoul of these draconian policies; but it is mostly boys who are ensnared. Boys are nearly five times more likely to be expelled from preschool than girls. In grades K-12, boys account for nearly 70% of suspensions, often for minor acts of insubordination and defiance. In the cases of Christopher, Josh and Alex, there was no insubordination or defiance whatsoever. They were guilty of nothing more than being typical 7-year-old boys. But in today’s school environment, that can be a punishable offense.

Zero tolerance was originally conceived as a way of ridding schools of violent predators, especially in the wake of horrific shootings in places like Littleton, Colo. But juvenile violence, including violence at schools, is at a historic low. The Bureau of Justice Statistics reports that in 2011, approximately 1% of students ages 12 to 18 reported a violent victimization at school. For serious violence, the figure is one-tenth of 1%. It does no disrespect to the victims of Columbine or Sandy Hook to note that while violence may be built into the core of a small coterie of sociopathic boys, most boys are not sociopathic.

On the other hand, millions of boys are struggling academically. A large and growing male cohort is falling behind in grades and disengaged from school. College has never been more important to a young person’s life prospects, and today boys are far less likely than girls to pursue education beyond high school. As our schools become more risk averse, the gender gap favoring girls is threatening to become a chasm.

Across the country, schools are policing and punishing the distinctive, assertive sociability of boys. Many much-loved games have vanished from school playgrounds. At some schools, tug of war has been replaced with “tug of peace.” Since the 1990s, elimination games like dodgeball, red rover and tag have been under a cloud — too damaging to self-esteem and too violent, say certain experts. Young boys, with few exceptions, love action narratives. These usually involve heroes, bad guys, rescues and shoot-ups. As boys’ play proceeds, plots become more elaborate and the boys more transfixed. When researchers ask boys why they do it, the standard reply is, “Because it’s fun.”

According to at least one study, such play rarely escalates into real aggression — only about 1% of the time. But when two researchers, Mary Ellin Logue and Hattie Harvey, surveyed classroom practices of 98 teachers of 4-year-olds, they found that this style of play was the least tolerated. Nearly half of teachers stopped or redirected boys’ dramatic play daily or several times a week — whereas less than a third reported stopping or redirecting girls’ dramatic play weekly.

Play is a critical basis for learning. And boys’ heroic play is no exception. Logue and Harvey found that “bad guy” play improved children’s conversation and imaginative writing. Such play, say the authors, also builds moral imagination, social competence and imparts critical lessons about personal limits and self-restraint. Logue and Harvey worry that the growing intolerance for boys’ action-narrative-play choices may be undermining their early language development and weakening their attachment to school. Imagine the harm done to boys like Christopher, Josh and Alex who are not merely discouraged from their choice of play, but are punished, publicly shamed and ostracized.

Schools must enforce codes of discipline and maintain clear rules against incivility and malicious behavior. But that hardly requires abolishing tag, imposing games of tug of peace or banning superhero play. Efforts to re-engineer the young-male imagination are doomed to fail, but they will succeed spectacularly in at least one way. They will send a clear and unmistakable message to millions of schoolboys: You are not welcome in school.

deebakes
08-19-2013, 12:23 PM
i'm expecting a call anytime about nonsense like this for my 7 and 9 year old :|

RBP
08-19-2013, 12:40 PM
Have I not been saying that the war on boys is out of hand? The whole system was redesigned to favor girls. Not just the rules but the way the kids are taught. Boys are way behind now.

deebakes
08-19-2013, 05:36 PM
except for their pay :dance:

Muddy
08-19-2013, 06:09 PM
Have I not been saying that the war on boys is out of hand? The whole system was redesigned to favor girls. Not just the rules but the way the kids are taught. Boys are way behind now.

:wah:

RBP
08-20-2013, 12:22 AM
except for their pay :dance:

Not true. There is no pay gap. Single women now earn more than single men.


:wah:

Fine, think it's a fucking joke. But the destruction of the educational, skill base, and earning potential of the men in this country is a serious issue. You want stable families but don't give a fuck about the fathers? Good luck with that.

Hal-9000
08-20-2013, 12:36 AM
young girls in our country travel with knives, spit and act like 13-15 yr old boys with great regularity

in fact, one school out by GF has a history of teen girls assaulting and abusing other kids..


they're achieving equality alright, in all the wrong areas of life

Muddy
08-20-2013, 12:48 AM
Not true. There is no pay gap. Single women now earn more than single men.



Fine, think it's a fucking joke. But the destruction of the educational, skill base, and earning potential of the men in this country is a serious issue. You want stable families but don't give a fuck about the fathers? Good luck with that.

You are taking this to the extreme.. Boys are doing just fine..

RBP
08-20-2013, 01:01 AM
You are taking this to the extreme.. Boys are doing just fine..

No, they aren't. You are basing that on what? Certainly not facts.

Muddy
08-20-2013, 01:03 AM
No, they aren't. You are basing that on what? Certainly not facts.

Observation.. I dont need quirky little articles making my mind up for me.

Muddy
08-20-2013, 01:04 AM
Skins / steelers ESPN

DemonGeminiX
08-20-2013, 01:13 AM
Gruden sounds like he wants to give Grossman a blowjob.

RBP
08-20-2013, 01:21 AM
Observation.. I dont need quirky little articles making my mind up for me.

So do your homework instead of saying ignorant shit. The author of this article is a good place to start, she's written extensively on the subject.

Muddy
08-20-2013, 01:39 AM
So do your homework instead of saying ignorant shit.

Screw you man.. :lol: I bet im more in the know than you are...

Muddy
08-20-2013, 01:42 AM
Gruden sounds like he wants to give Grossman a blowjob.

He is moving that ball..:lol:

RBP
08-20-2013, 01:44 AM
Screw you man.. :lol: I bet im more in the know than you are...

really. So justify your position, Mr. in-the-know. Did you observe the plummeting rates of college admissions and graduations for boys? Did you observe the sheer devastation of the male workforce in the most recent recession? Did you observe that more females hold managerial jobs than men? Did you observe that girls outperform boys in school by every measure? What exactly have you observed?

Muddy
08-20-2013, 01:50 AM
We know whos in charge and what the ideal american way of life is geared towards.. How about football? Name one female sport with 1/4 that draw.. But look.. Im pecking on an ipad and struggling here to write my thesis right now..

Noilly Pratt
08-20-2013, 02:29 AM
As a parent, if you think that your school is biasing more towards girls, or there's any trouble brewing - get active and have a voice. Be part of the PTA or volunteer in some way. My daughter's principal knows us by first name because we are keenly in there and not interfering but taking an active role. And both my wife and I work so people saying they have no time to do it are wrong...it just requires management and sacrifices. I don't go out "with the boys" much anymore and just see friends on weekends. That's fine. Now's the time when my family needs me the most.

The last principal they had at her school was not really decisive and if a problem was presented he swept it under the rug. Well a few concerned parents voiced their concerns to the PTA, took him to task on a few of his decisions and he was eventually transferred out to a smaller school where his hands-off style was better suited. This new principal is much more in touch with his teachers and more hands on, and where my daughter was floundering in math, she's now excelling because a few concerned parents voiced it, and did something about it.

Many parents (this was in grade 2-3 believe it or not!) decided to transfer their kid out and now they're realizing that they've traded one problem for another. We stayed along with about 4 other parents who were keenly interested, and now (going into Grade 5) we've made it into something better and found a staff that is willing to listen to us.

RBP
08-20-2013, 02:30 AM
We know whos in charge and what the ideal american way of life is geared towards.. How about football? Name one female sport with 1/4 that draw.. But look.. Im pecking on an ipad and struggling here to write my thesis right now..

In charge? You think men are in charge? Please tell me how men are in charge. That's laughable. It's the same as the racial issues. You are viewing it through a 1950's lens that simply doesn't apply. So, you're basing your position on gender issues on who's sport draws more? wtf. Really, have you given this any attention or are you just spewing randomly?

RBP
08-20-2013, 02:32 AM
As a parent, if you think that your school is biasing more towards girls, or there's any trouble brewing - get active and have a voice. Be part of the PTA or volunteer in some way. My daughter's principal knows us by first name because we are keenly in there and not interfering but taking an active role. And both my wife and I work so people saying they have no time to do it are wrong...it just requires management and sacrifices. I don't go out "with the boys" much anymore and just see friends on weekends. That's fine. Now's the time when my family needs me the most.

The last principal they had at her school was not really decisive and if a problem was presented he swept it under the rug. Well a few concerned parents voiced their concerns to the PTA, took him to task on a few of his decisions and he was eventually transferred out to a smaller school where his hands-off style was better suited. This new principal is much more in touch with his teachers and more hands on, and where my daughter was floundering in math, she's now excelling because a few concerned parents voiced it, and did something about it.

Many parents (this was in grade 2-3 believe it or not!) decided to transfer their kid out and now they're realizing that they've traded one problem for another. We stayed along with about 4 other parents who were keenly interested, and now (going into Grade 5) we've made it into something better and found a staff that is willing to listen to us.

Yes, I agree Noilly, involvement is the key.

RBP
08-20-2013, 02:36 AM
We know whos in charge and what the ideal american way of life is geared towards.. How about football? Name one female sport with 1/4 that draw.. But look.. Im pecking on an ipad and struggling here to write my thesis right now..

You have made zero effort to get informed and expect me to engage this. Fuck that.

Muddy
08-20-2013, 10:58 AM
In charge? You think men are in charge? Please tell me how men are in charge. That's laughable. It's the same as the racial issues. You are viewing it through a 1950's lens that simply doesn't apply. So, you're basing your position on gender issues on who's sport draws more? wtf. Really, have you given this any attention or are you just spewing randomly?

*spewwwws* That was only one example. There are many more.

RBP
08-20-2013, 11:47 AM
*spewwwws* That was only one example. There are many more.

Oh please, enlighten me. :roll:

Muddy
08-20-2013, 12:28 PM
How about our elected leaders? Tell me that isn't one big cock waving session...

RBP
08-21-2013, 01:43 AM
How about our elected leaders? Tell me that isn't one big cock waving session...

I will agree that women are underrepresented in elected officials. However, that's the voting public's decision, not a discriminatory practice. So why do we not suggest that men need to be better represented in female dominated professions?