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Teh One Who Knocks
08-21-2013, 10:30 AM
Dominic Dezzutti - CBS 4 Colorado


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The city of Ft. Collins is considering a new smoking ban that would make it illegal to smoke outdoors in certain areas. The areas in the new ban under discussion would include restaurant patios, parks, certain open walking areas and trails.

While the city council has yet to decide on the issue, planning to vote sometime in October, it begs the question, how fast will this slippery slope lead to an outright ban of smoking tobacco?

I realize this idea may seem like heresy since there are still those that remember times when smoking nearly anywhere was not only legal, but considered fairly normal.

However, if Ft. Collins could consider strengthening its own smoking ban, how far away is a small town that feels they can get away with an outright ban? Anyone who has followed what certain towns in California have tried would have to admit this isn’t a crazy idea to contemplate.

I imagine that only an outright ban of smoking tobacco would be enough to finally create a backlash where a majority of voters, including a great deal of non-smokers, would stand up and say we’ve gone too far.

But can that “too far” moment really be that close if the collective response from the community to the Ft. Collins proposal has been a collective yawn? If that’s the reaction, maybe I am way off thinking that there is a “too far” moment on the horizon. Maybe an outright ban would be accepted by Colorado voters.

Personally, it seems odd to live in a state that embraces the freedom to use marijuana recreationally, but looks at tobacco smoke with such disdain.

I’m a non-smoker and I realize the very deadly results of smoking including cancer and emphysema.

However, I also realize that we have already passed enough laws to protect non-smokers in nearly any occasion.

And I also realize that there are more cancer dangers out there for non-smokers than second hand smoke. Honestly, there are probably more carcinogens coming from cars sitting in traffic and sizzling fajitas at your favorite restaurant than most people encounter from smokers nowadays.

But more importantly, I wonder if anyone sees any correlation between smokers slowly losing their rights over the health concerns of others and other potential infringements of our personal liberty.

While overturned, we have already seen New York City attempt to ban large sodas. How long will it be before restaurants who serve fatty food are charged a “health tax” to help subsidize health care costs?

For that matter, with the amount of pollution that single drivers put in our collective atmosphere, why won’t they be asked to pay more at the pump?

Do those ideas really sound that far-fetched?

Smoking bans sounded ludicrous to us less than a generation ago, so be careful what you consider crazy.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-21-2013, 10:31 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I am a non-smoker and have never smoked ever in my life. When the first smoking ban vote was on the ballot in Colorado I voted against it. why? Because of the nonsense in the OP. Eventually the government will keep eroding our rights away and even if you don't smoke and don't agree with smoking, eventually, someday, the government is going to go after on of YOUR rights and there will be nobody there to stand up for you when that time comes.

Muddy
08-21-2013, 10:42 AM
Great picture...my word..!

perrhaps
08-21-2013, 12:02 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I am a non-smoker and have never smoked ever in my life. When the first smoking ban vote was on the ballot in Colorado I voted against it. why? Because of the nonsense in the OP. Eventually the government will keep eroding our rights away and even if you don't smoke and don't agree with smoking, eventually, someday, the government is going to go after on of YOUR rights and there will be nobody there to stand up for you when that time comes.

I smoked for over 35 years. While quitting is on of the smartest things I've ever done, I agree 110%.

KevinD
08-21-2013, 04:50 PM
Things are finally getting so bad even libturds are waking up.

Hal-9000
08-21-2013, 07:51 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I am a non-smoker and have never smoked ever in my life. When the first smoking ban vote was on the ballot in Colorado I voted against it. why? Because of the nonsense in the OP. Eventually the government will keep eroding our rights away and even if you don't smoke and don't agree with smoking, eventually, someday, the government is going to go after on of YOUR rights and there will be nobody there to stand up for you when that time comes.

This...so much. Even when we were allowed to smoke anywhere inside, I never did because the habit is mine, not the non-smoking people around me.

So I always went outside houses and businesses to smoke without being told.


now they want to ban it in public parks and in MY car.....if they take those rights away, what's next for everyone's rights??

Hal-9000
08-21-2013, 07:52 PM
Great picture...my word..!

mind reader :tup:

Noilly Pratt
08-21-2013, 09:13 PM
As a non-smoker and a fairly rabid one at that (lost my Mum to lung cancer mainly because of her habit from teenage to her mid 50's AND I've been told by my Doctor I'm allergic to it) I think there still should be areas that are outside and designated as smoking. AND, also there should be stuff in the health care to kick the habit, and incentives to do so.


Honestly, there are probably more carcinogens coming from cars sitting in traffic and sizzling fajitas at your favorite restaurant than most people encounter from smokers nowadays.

Probably true.

But, I realize it is a habit forming thing that takes a hold of the user. And, I would be happy if it's eradicated (which will never happen). But people have a right to do what they will. You want to legislate? Perhaps increase medical fees of people who smoke, as they are a bigger insurable risk...OK, maybe not - that's a bigger issue for another day.

But ban them altogether? There are MANY bigger issues to wield your laws at that need to be looked at first. I think we've done all we need to do by banning it indoors in public places.

DemonGeminiX
08-21-2013, 10:17 PM
Great picture...my word..!

I'm not much for the tattoos, but she's definitely a looker.

Muddy
08-21-2013, 10:52 PM
I'm not much for the tattoos, but she's definitely a looker.

It's that tiniest hint of peep show as well..