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Teh One Who Knocks
08-22-2013, 09:12 PM
By Robert Blecker, Special to CNN


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Editor's note: Robert Blecker is a professor at New York Law School where he teaches criminal law and constitutional law. His crime and punishment memoir, "The Death of Punishment: Searching for Justice Among the Worst of the Worst," will be published by Palgrave Macmillan in November.

(CNN) -- No matter how vicious the crime, no matter how vile the criminal, some death penalty opponents feel certain that nobody can ever deserve to die -- even if that person burned children alive, massacred a dozen strangers in a movie theater, or bombed the Boston Marathon. Other opponents admit the worst of the worst of the worst do deserve to die. They just distrust the government ever to get it right.

Now that pharmaceutical companies refuse to supply the lethal drugs that U.S. corrections departments have used for years to execute criminals -- whether from their own genuine moral objections or to escape a threatened economic boycott -- states have begun to experiment. Death penalty opponents, who call themselves abolitionists, then protest the use of these untried drugs that just might cause a condemned killer to feel pain as he dies.

Let the punishment fit the crime. We've mouthed that credo for centuries, but do we really mean it? We retributivists who believe in justice would reward those who bring us pleasure, but punish severely those who sadistically or wantonly cause us pain. A basic retributive measure -- like for like or giving a person a taste of his own medicine -- satisfies our deepest instincts for justice.

When the condemned killer intentionally tortured helpless victims, how better to preserve some direct connection short of torture than by that murderer's quick but painful death? By ensuring death through anesthesia, however, we have nearly severed pain from punishment.

An unpleasant life in prison, a quick but painful death cannot erase the harm. But it can help restore a moral balance.

I, too, oppose lethal injection, but not because these untried new drugs might arbitrarily cause pain, but because they certainly cause confusion.

Lethal injection conflates punishment with medicine. The condemned dies in a gurney, wrapped in white sheets with an IV in his veins, surrounded by his closest kin, monitored by sophisticated medical devices. Haphazardly conceived and hastily designed, lethal injection appears, feels, and seems medical, although its sole purpose is to kill.

Witnessing an execution in Florida, I shuddered. It felt too much like a hospital or hospice. We almost never look to medicine to tell us whom to execute. Medicine should no more tell us how. How we kill those we rightly detest should in no way resemble how we end the suffering of those we love.

Publicly opposing this method of execution, I have found odd common ground with Deborah Denno, a leading abolitionist scholar who relentlessly attacks lethal injection protocols. Although Denno vigorously opposes all capital punishment, we both agree that the firing squad, among all traditional methods, probably serves us best. It does not sugarcoat, it does not pretend, it does not shamefully obscure what we do. We kill them, intentionally, because they deserve it.

Some people may support the firing squad because it allows us to put blanks in one of the guns: An individual sharpshooter will never know whether he actually killed the condemned. This strikes me as just another symptom of our avoidance of responsibility for punishment. The fact is, in this society, nobody takes responsibility for punishing criminals. Corrections officers point to judges, while judges point to legislators, and legislators to corrections. Anger and responsibility seem to lie everywhere elsewhere -- that is, nowhere. And where we cannot fully escape responsibility -- as with a firing squad -- we diffuse it.

My thousands of hours observing daily life inside maximum security prisons and on death rows in several states these past 25 years have shown me the perverse irony that flows from this: Inside prisons, often the worst criminals live the most comfortable lives with the best hustles, job opportunities and sources of contraband, while the relatively petty criminals live miserably, constantly preyed upon.

Refusing to even contemplate distinguishing those few most sadistic murderers who deserve to die painfully, states seem quite willing haphazardly and arbitrarily to expose prisoners in general, regardless of their crimes, to a more or less painful life, or even death at the hands of other criminals.

Ironically, even as we recoil from punishing those who most deserve it, we readily over-punish those who don't. A "war on drugs" swells our prisons. We punish addiction and call it crime; we indiscriminately and immorally subject a burglar or car thief to the same daily life in prison we also reserve for rapist murderers.

The time has come to make punishment more nearly fit the crime. To face what we do, and acknowledge, with regret but without shame, that the past counts.

So part of me hopes the abolitionists succeed with their latest campaign against death by lethal injection. We should banish this method. Let the abolitionists threaten to boycott gun manufacturers. See where that gets them. Meanwhile, the rest of us will strive to keep our covenants with victims, restore a moral balance, and shoot to kill those who deserve to die.

Rest assured, when we can only achieve justice by killing a vicious killer, We, the People will find a constitutional way to do it.

Hal-9000
08-22-2013, 09:23 PM
I say bring back the half-guillotine...the blade is one half of regulation width, so the executioner has to let it come down a few times in a row, while turning the prisoner, to completely sever the head :)

Teh One Who Knocks
08-22-2013, 09:28 PM
I'm all for going back to the old ways, I've always thought that people on death row get off too easy with lethal injection, especially when you consider how the victims are usually killed in the crimes.

Bring back the gallows, the electric chair, the gas chamber, and the firing squad. Hell, if I had my way we'd go back to the good old days where the executions were public and done in the middle of the town square. Make the death penalty a real deterrent, not a freaking medical procedure FFS.

Hal-9000
08-22-2013, 09:31 PM
That's what I've been saying for years.....killer either gets 3 squares a day and a roof, or a nice sleep on the way to death.

Easy to take a gamble on that as the penalties are really not penalties considering what they're doing to others.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-22-2013, 09:40 PM
Exactly...people scream up and down that the death penalty doesn't work and doesn't deter anyone from committing murder, The reason it doesn't work is because they have made it painless FFS. Guy kidnaps, rapes, and then dimembers a 12 year old girl and even with facing the death penalty, he will be facing 20+ years with free room and board and then when and if the sentence does get carried out, he gets a shot in the arm and goes to sleep.

:|

Hal-9000
08-22-2013, 09:59 PM
And from what I've read, most of the monsters have low income, blue collar jobs at best...so their standard of living can't be that great to begin with...

We have to put our collective feet down as humans and show them that their behavior is heinous and unacceptable. If they get caught, their former rights as humans will vanish in an instant...

DemonGeminiX
08-22-2013, 10:17 PM
Screw all that. Reinstitute crucifixion and do it in the public square. Burn the bodies to ash after they're dead. No headstone, no long stories.

Teh One Who Knocks
08-22-2013, 11:04 PM
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DemonGeminiX
08-22-2013, 11:32 PM
Burn them at the stake!

Goofy
08-23-2013, 08:45 AM
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Awesome! :shock: Death by elephant ftw! :cheers:

perrhaps
08-23-2013, 02:32 PM
I have a serious problem with the death penalty, but it's not based upon religious grounds or the "cruel and unusual" blather.

In every state that still has the death penalty, the Governor has the uninhibited, exclusive powers of both signing a death warrant and commuting a death sentence. The potential for abuse at these steps of the death penalty process scares the hell out of me, and makes me feel the entire process is fundamentally-flawed.

Hal-9000
08-23-2013, 03:32 PM
Screw all that. Reinstitute crucifixion and do it in the public square. Burn the bodies to ash after they're dead. No headstone, no long stories.

or maybe do similar and just put a cheap headstone - criminal