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DemonGeminiX
09-25-2013, 06:43 PM
By Michelle Nichols
UNITED NATIONS |
Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:16pm EDT

(Reuters) - The United States signed a U.N. Arms Trade Treaty regulating the $70 billion global trade in conventional arms on Wednesday and the Obama administration sought to allay the fears of the powerful U.S. gun lobby which says the pact will violate the constitutional rights of Americans.

The treaty, which relates only to cross-border trade and aims to keep weapons out of the hands of human rights abusers and criminals, still requires ratification by the U.S. Senate and has been attacked by the influential gun rights group the National Rifle Association (NRA).

Among the NRA arguments against the treaty are that it undermines American sovereignty and that it disregards the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which guarantees citizens the right to bear arms.

The United States, the world's No. 1 arms exporter, became the 91st country to sign when U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry put pen to paper on the sidelines of the annual gathering of world leaders at the United Nations.

"This treaty will not diminish anyone's freedom, in fact the treaty recognizes the freedom of both individuals and states to obtain, possess and use arms for legitimate purposes," Kerry said after signing the treaty.

"Make no mistake, we would never think about supporting a treaty that is inconsistent with the rights of Americans, the rights of American citizens to be able to exercise their guaranteed rights under our constitution," he said.

Arms control activists and rights groups say one person dies every minute as a result of armed violence and the treaty is needed to halt the uncontrolled flow of arms and ammunition that they say fuels wars, atrocities and rights abuses.

The Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) aims to set standards for all cross-border transfers of conventional weapons ranging from small firearms to tanks and attack helicopters. It would create binding requirements for states to review cross-border contracts to ensure that weapons will not be used in human rights abuses, terrorism, violations of humanitarian law or organized crime.

"This treaty threatens individual firearm ownership with an invasive registration scheme," said Chris Cox, executive director of the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action, in a statement. "The NRA will continue working with the United States Senate to oppose ratification of the ATT."

"These are blatant attacks on the constitutional rights and liberties of every law-abiding American. The NRA will continue to fight this assault on our fundamental freedom," he said.

"UNSCRUPULOUS TRADE"

The U.N. Office for Disarmament Affairs says the treaty does not "interfere with the domestic arms trade and the way a country regulates civilian possession."

The 193-nation U.N. General Assembly overwhelmingly approved the treaty on April 2. Russia, China, India and 20 other countries abstained in the April 2 vote. The treaty will enter into force 90 days after 50 nations have ratified it. So far five countries have ratified the treaty.

Rights group Amnesty International USA said it hoped the decision by the United States to sign the treaty would send a signal to Moscow, Beijing and the NRA on the commitment of President Barack Obama's administration to the issue.

"The Obama administration is politically committed to ending the unscrupulous trade in deadly weapons used by dictators, war lords and criminal gangs to commit atrocities," said Amnesty International USA deputy executive director Frank Jannuzi.

Aid group Oxfam welcomed the U.S. signing and called on Washington to live up to the spirit of the treaty by not transferring weapons to countries where there is a risk of rights abuses, such as in the Syrian civil war.

The White House pledged in June to provide military aid to rebels in Syria. The Syrian Coalition of opposition groups said this month that lethal assistance had been received from the United States. Kerry has said "many items" are reaching the rebels but declined to say what military items were sent.

Kerry said on Wednesday the Arms Trade Treaty requires other countries to create and enforce strict national arms export controls that the United States already has in place.

"We are talking about the kind of export controls that for decades have not diminished one iota our ability in the United States as Americans to exercise our rights under the constitution," he said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/25/us-un-assembly-kerry-treaty-idUSBRE98O0WV20130925

DemonGeminiX
09-25-2013, 06:49 PM
From the NRA-ILA:

Fairfax, Va. – Today, Secretary of State John Kerry signed the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty on behalf of the Obama administration. The National Rifle Association strongly opposes this treaty, which is a clear violation of the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

“The Obama administration is once again demonstrating its contempt for our fundamental, individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms,” said Chris W. Cox, executive director of the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action. “This treaty threatens individual firearm ownership with an invasive registration scheme. The NRA will continue working with the United States Senate to oppose ratification of the ATT.”

A bipartisan majority of the U.S. Senate is already on record in opposition to ratification of the ATT. On March 23, the Senate adopted an amendment to its FY 2014 Budget Resolution, offered by Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK), that establishes a deficit-neutral fund for “the purpose of preventing the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.” This amendment is in addition to the previous efforts of Sen. Jerry Moran (R-KS) and Rep. Mike Kelly (R-PA) to pass concurrent resolutions opposing the treaty in their respective chambers.

Notably, the ATT includes "small arms and light weapons" within its scope, which covers firearms owned by law-abiding citizens. Further, the treaty urges recordkeeping of end users, directing importing countries to provide information to an exporting country regarding arms transfers, including “end use or end user documentation” for a “minimum of ten years.” Each country is to “take measures, pursuant to its national laws, to regulate brokering taking place under its jurisdiction for conventional arms.” Data kept on the end users of imported firearms is a de-facto registry of law-abiding firearms owners, which is a violation of federal law. Even worse, the ATT could be construed to require such a registry to be made available to foreign governments.

“These are blatant attacks on the constitutional rights and liberties of every law-abiding American. The NRA will continue to fight this assault on our fundamental freedom,” concluded Cox.

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/news-from-nra-ila/2013/9/obama-administration-signs-united-nations-arms-trade-treaty.aspx?s=&st=&ps=

PorkChopSandwiches
09-25-2013, 06:57 PM
:facepalm:

Teh One Who Knocks
09-25-2013, 07:01 PM
This isn't an issue, it will never get ratified in the senate.

Acid Trip
09-25-2013, 07:04 PM
This isn't an issue, it will never get ratified in the senate.

That's what I don't get. Why bother signing it if we have no intention of following through?

If I were another country I'd never trust anything the United States says. We've got a bunch of pathological liars running our country.

Goofy
09-25-2013, 07:12 PM
If I were another country I'd never trust anything the United States says.

Well duh :lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
09-25-2013, 07:13 PM
That's what I don't get. Why bother signing it if we have no intention of following through?

If I were another country I'd never trust anything the United States says. We've got a bunch of pathological liars running our country.

It's all a ploy for Barry...he can tell all his frothing-at-the-mouth followers that he tried but those no good republicans in the senate blocked it from happening.

PorkChopSandwiches
09-25-2013, 07:14 PM
That's what I don't get. Why bother signing it if we have no intention of following through?

If I were another country I'd never trust anything the United States says. We've got a bunch of pathological liars running our country.

How about if you were lets say, you ;)

DemonGeminiX
09-25-2013, 07:21 PM
This isn't an issue, it will never get ratified in the senate.

:-s

Isn't that what we said about the Obamacare bill? That it would never pass? That Congress wouldn't be that stupid?

Acid Trip
09-25-2013, 08:31 PM
How about if you were lets say, you ;)

I don't trust our government at all. Ever since the 40's it's been shady as f*ck.

PorkChopSandwiches
09-25-2013, 08:35 PM
:tup:

FBD
09-25-2013, 08:48 PM
I don't trust our government at all. Ever since the 40's it's been shady as f*ck.

its been shady as fuck for over 100 years

Acid Trip
09-25-2013, 08:51 PM
its been shady as fuck for over 100 years

You're right, 1913 would have been a better start date.