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Teh One Who Knocks
10-21-2013, 11:19 AM
Ancient formation » 3 Scout leaders claim they worried the rock would fall and hurt someone.
By Janelle Stecklein and Jim Dalrymple II | The Salt Lake Tribune



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYFD18BwmJ4

A group of Boy Scout leaders is potentially facing felony charges for destroying a rock formation millions of years old in Emery County.

The trio of men was adventuring in Goblin Valley State Park when they decided to film themselves knocking over one of the formations, known as "goblins."

They said later it appeared to them that it was ready to fall and might hurt someone.

In the video, posted on Facebook, one man can be seen leveraging himself against a nearby rock and pushing a formation over.

"Some little kid was about ready to walk down here and die and Glenn saved his life by getting the boulder out of the way," the cameraman is heard saying. "So it’s all about saving lives here at Goblin Valley."

After the rock falls, the three men laugh, cheer and high five each other.

Utah State Parks officials Thursday were not so amused.

"It is not only wrong, but there will be consequences," said spokesman Eugene Swalberg, noting that a criminal investigation is underway by State Parks authorities.

"This is highly, highly inappropriate," he said. "This is not what you do at state parks. It’s disturbing and upsetting."

Swalberg said it’s rare for tourists to destroy natural formations.

Geologists say the rock dates back about 165 million years though the toppled formation was formed no more than 20 million years ago.

Deputy Emery County Attorney Brent Langston said he was aware of the incident, but it hasn’t been presented to his office yet for screening for possible charges.

"It’s not one we see every day," Langston said.

"Some things can’t be replaced, like photographs in a family album, but they have great sentimental value," he said.

He said anyone involved, including anyone who encouraged the criminal behavior, could face anywhere from a class B misdemeanor to a second-degree felony depending on how much the formation is valued.

Glenn Taylor said Thursday afternoon that he was the man who pushed over the formation, while Dave Hall filmed and Dylan Taylor looked on. According to Taylor, he and Hall are leaders for a local troop of the Boy Scouts of America. Hall added that the men also were acting as Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints youth leaders.

Taylor said he knocked the boulder to the ground after seeing a family walk by on a nearby popular path. When he touched the rock, Taylor noticed it was loose.

"I put my hand on a rock and it moved," he said. "While we were sitting right there we thought, ‘Man if this rock falls it’ll kill them.’ I didn’t have to push hard."

Taylor said that at the time he thought he was doing a "civic service" by taking down a loose rock. However, as he walked back to his car, he began thinking that he should have contacted a ranger about the loose rock. He also said he wished he could take back his actions.

"Glad we did it, wish we wouldn’t have done it," he said Thursday of his feelings about the incident.

Hall agreed with Taylor and added that the park was especially crowded that day, Oct. 11, due to national park closures during the government shutdown. The men were worried that a child would be crushed by the boulder, he said, and during his time in the park he only saw one ranger, who was stationed at the entrance.

"With the information we had we made the best decision we could," he said. "We weren’t there for vandalism or anything like that."

Hall also said that Taylor recently underwent shoulder surgery and has little upper body strength. The fact that Taylor could still push the formation over demonstrates how loose it was, Hall said.

"The intent was to enjoy the natural resources with a bunch of friends," he added. "We’re extremely sorry for our actions. There was no in way shape or form any intent to go out there and cause any harm to our natural resources."

The Facebook video received a barrage of praise from the men’s friends.

"Too funny," wrote one person.

"You have so much fun!! Thanks for saving a life [smiley face]. Rock On," wrote a second.

The rock pusher, Taylor, wrote that they were "just doing our civic duty!"

When a person warned that the men should remove the video before they go to jail, Hall fired back.

"Nobody’s going to jail," he wrote. You have a 2,000 lb boulder that is teetering on a 2"[sic] dirt ledge and about ready to fall off on it’s [sic] own. 5 minutes before this video we watched a family with many small children walk right below the rock to take a family photo. We didn’t do anything until they were gone because we didn’t want anyone to get hurt. One gust of wind and that rock was falling whether someone was there or not. ...

"I’ll take my chances with the cops rather then my conscience after hearing a family was crushed to death by a rock I was prompted to move."

Swalberg said just because a rock looks loose, it doesn’t mean people should knock it over.

Yes, it and other rock formations in southern Utah will fall one day, likely generations from now, but "that doesn’t mean we go and push over Delicate Arch because we’re afraid it’s going to topple," he said.

Swalberg said the priceless goblin formation won’t be able to be restored.

According to Taylor, he has not been contacted by any authorities about the incident.

He added that since news broke of the video, reactions have been negative and he was "accosted" by a television camera crew Thursday. Still, he said the issue goes back to his decision to push over the rock, not with the video that ended up online.

"The issue is we did it," he said. "I wish we wouldn’t have."

FBD
10-21-2013, 11:52 AM
bloody do gooders

perrhaps
10-21-2013, 03:21 PM
I read this morning that this bozo has a lawsuit pending in which he claims to be permanently disabled as a result of a 2009 auto accident.

Teh One Who Knocks
10-21-2013, 03:25 PM
By Nina Golgowski / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS


A heavyweight rock crusher's disability claim is being slammed by critics as more mental than physical.

Glenn Taylor — who infamously filmed his ability to knock over an ancient 2,000-pound sandstone with his bare hands — filed a lawsuit claiming "debilitating" physical injury weeks before the stunt's filming, it has been revealed.

Taylor, seen destroying a 200 million-year-old goblin sandstone formation in Utah's Goblin Valley State Park last week, filed a personal injury lawsuit last month claiming to have been disabled after a car crash four years ago.

Since that 2009 crash the Boy Scout leader claims he's "endure(d) great pain and suffering, disability, impairment, loss of joy of life," according to his lawsuit filed against the father of the then teen driver responsible for that crash.

That tragically described condition, however, appears far removed from the energetic display Taylor puts on in the video uploaded to YouTube - and that could have him facing felony charges.

"We did something right, the wrong way," Taylor defended his behavior to NBC of the Jurassic-era rock that after millions of years he claims was just waiting to fall down and hurt someone.

In the video Taylor, his son and fellow trooper leader Dave Hall are seen high fiving and cheering after the sandstone's destruction.

Taylor further playfully demonstrates his physical strength by striking a wrestling pose with his arms after its topple.

Alan Macdonald, the father of the 2009 teen driver, isn't buying it.

"I was just a little surprised because he looks like a fairly strong, able-bodied guy to me," MacDonald told KUTV after watching his stunt.

It was MacDonald's then 16-year-old daughter who was faulted for the crash, which involved several vehicles but no hospitalizations.

Taylor who was approached by KUTV from outside his car had little to say to an inquiring reporter.

"You didn't see how hard I pushed," Taylor argued.

"It looked like you were pushing pretty hard," the reporter replied.

Taylor's attorney, Mark Stubbs told the station that his client as of late has been recovering from his injuries sustained in that crash.

That doesn't mean he wasn't terribly injured right after and required extensive medical bills, he said.

Taylor's many online critics don't appear as sympathetic.

"I think their next project will be to fill in the Grand Canyon....you know...just in case...." one YouTube viewer suggested in one of the video's comment section.

"175 million years. It was very patient," another wrote of the sandstone's inability to fall until now.

"He has a disability alright — a mental disability," another man slammed on KUTV's website to the support of 134 other people.

Muddy
10-21-2013, 03:29 PM
If that rock was loose enough to be pushed over, it needed to be toppled.

Teh One Who Knocks
10-21-2013, 03:35 PM
If that rock was loose enough to be pushed over, it needed to be toppled.

Did you even watch the video to see how hard the guy had to push to knock it over? And did you see them both giggling like schoolgirls about it? They weren't doing it for 'public safety', they did it because they are asshats.

And to top it all off, it's not their call to make.

Muddy
10-21-2013, 04:30 PM
I watched the video without sound.. As a person who has shoved big ass rocks into an abandoned rock quarry, I know that If a human man could topple that 2000 pound rock it was going to come down soon anyway. Are they asshats though? yes. Felony charges? tooo much.

Teh One Who Knocks
10-21-2013, 04:38 PM
I watched the video without sound.. As a person who has shoved big ass rocks into an abandoned rock quarry, I know that If a human man could topple that 2000 pound rock it was going to come down soon anyway. Are they asshats though? yes. Felony charges? tooo much.

Again, not their call to make. If they were that worried about public safety, then you report it to a park ranger. It's not up to anyone else to determine what is safe and what isn't safe in state and/or national parks. They destroyed something that sat there for 20 million years just fine, I highly doubt that a breeze would have blown it over onto some unsuspecting family.

The felony charges are totally warranted.

Loser
10-21-2013, 05:47 PM
Fking fat retarded hill billies. No more, no less.

Muddy
10-21-2013, 05:48 PM
Again, not their call to make. If they were that worried about public safety, then you report it to a park ranger. It's not up to anyone else to determine what is safe and what isn't safe in state and/or national parks. They destroyed something that sat there for 20 million years just fine, I highly doubt that a breeze would have blown it over onto some unsuspecting family.

The felony charges are totally warranted.

Ok, I can agree on the park ranger part.. But no felony unless it was marked that toppling rocks was illegal..

Hal-9000
10-21-2013, 06:07 PM
similar....we have a large park and reservoir close to my place...I used to hike and bike down there with friends


we're biking one afternoon and hear a chainsaw...get a little further up the path and there's a dude cutting down 50 yr old trees and toppling them into the pathway...

he says in a pissy voice - I'm doing this because of idiots like you always riding your bikes down here!

:facepalm: the park is divided up into biking and walking pathways...this was a bike trail we were on..


fuggin moronic douchebag

Teh One Who Knocks
10-22-2013, 11:53 AM
Ok, I can agree on the park ranger part.. But no felony unless it was marked that toppling rocks was illegal..

From the Goblin Valley State Park brochure (PDF) (http://www.stateparks.utah.gov/sites/stateparks.utah.gov/files/GoblinValleyBrochure.pdf):

http://i.imgur.com/UhYqpPZ.jpg

Muddy
10-22-2013, 01:36 PM
Fair enough.