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Teh One Who Knocks
05-04-2011, 12:35 PM
Stephanie Pappas, LiveScience Senior Writer


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Almost 50 million years ago, ants the size of hummingbirds roamed what is now Wyoming, a new fossil discovery reveals. These giant bugs may have crossed an Arctic land bridge between Europe and North America during a particularly warm period in Earth's history.

At about 2 inches (5 cm) long, the specimen is a "monstrously big ant," said Bruce Archibald, a paleoentomologist at Simon Fraser University in British Columbia who reported the discovery today (May 3) in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society B. Though fossils of loose giant ant wings have been found before in the United States, this is the first known full-body specimen.

The fossil ant is from a well-known fossil site in Wyoming called the Green River Formation, but it had been sitting in a drawer at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science, Archibald said. When a curator showed him the fossil, Archibald said, he knew he was looking at something exciting. [Image of the giant ant fossil]

"I immediately recognized it and said, 'Oh my god, this is a giant ant and it looks like it's related to giant ants that are known from about this time in Germany.'"

One living ant species, Dorylus wilverthi, has queens that reach the size of this ancient ant, though Titanomyrma was big all over while D. wilverthi gets its size from an abnormally swollen abdomen, Archibald said.

Monster ant

Archibald dubbed the new ant Titanomyrma lubei -- "titan" for its size, "myrma" for the Greek, "myrmex," or ant, and "lubei" for the fossil collector who discovered the specimen, Louis Lube. The burning question, however, was how giant ants ended up on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean.

Ants are tough bugs -- some can even create rafts out of their own bodies to survive floods. But a look at modern large ants showed Archibald and his colleagues that T. lubei very likely needed a warm climate to live, similar to modern-day giant ants. For instance, D. wilverthi lives in equatorial Africa. Other ants bigger than about an inch (3 cm) long are spread across tropical areas of South America, Southeast Asia and Australia.

Likewise, ancient giant ant fossils have been found in Europe in areas that were tropical during the early part of the Eocene, an epoch that lasted from 56 million to 34 million years ago, a time when the continents were closer together and the sea level was low: "You could have walked from Vancouver to London across dry land," Archibald said.

But to cross the continents, you still had to traverse the Arctic. Back then, the Arctic was much warmer than it is today, a temperate zone rather than a winter wonderland.

An open Arctic for ants

"Temperate" would have been too chilly for the giant ants, however. The key to the ants' march, Archibald and his colleagues found, were relatively brief periods in which temperature shot up enough to make the Arctic passable. These periods, which lasted between 170,000 and 55 million years ago, may have been driven by the release of carbon dioxide from sediment.

The warm periods would have brought the average temperature in the coldest Arctic months up to 46 degrees Fahrenheit (8 degrees Celsius), a survivable temperature for the tropical ants.

The researchers aren't sure whether the ants started in Europe and spread to North America or the other way around. University of Bonn paleoentomologist Torsten Wappler, who was not involved in the study, is working to classify the various species of ancient giant ants and describe how they lived. Some fossils preserve bits of organs, including stingers, genitalia and stomachs, Wappler told LiveScience.

"Now we can compare this North American species with the European ones," Wappler said. "That was not possible before." The comparison may shed light on the bugs' origin.

Deepsepia
05-04-2011, 02:07 PM
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FBD
05-04-2011, 02:25 PM
These periods, which lasted between 170,000 and 55 million years ago, may have been driven by the release of carbon dioxide from sediment.

:roll: FFS you just CANT HELP YOURSELF, can you Stephanie...you indoctrinated moron!

Hugh_Janus
05-04-2011, 05:21 PM
when I heard about this on the radio this morning on the way to work I thought oh man.... this is cool as fuck! Then I learned that it was a queen ant. I was so disappointed:meh:

Teh One Who Knocks
05-04-2011, 05:29 PM
It's still a giant ant :-k

PorkChopSandwiches
05-04-2011, 05:39 PM
Aunty

Hal-9000
05-04-2011, 05:43 PM
Ants can lift 100 times their weight?

So it would only take 1000 of these huge ants to pick up Lance...









:dance:



:cheerlead:



:face:

Hugh_Janus
05-04-2011, 05:49 PM
yes it is, but in my head, they were giant worker ants; and giant worker ants are far more impressive than giant queen ants. I read somewhere today.... could even be the article above, I can't remember, but there are queen ants of a similar size today. So that makes it even less impressive. I don't know about you, but when "giant", "prehistoric" and "insect" are used in the same sentence my mind jumps straight to something bigger than anything around today.

I felt exactly the same when that story of a giant prehistoric spider came out a couple of weeks ago. When I hear these stories, I genuinely get quite excited :oops: so I'm pretty gutted when I fid out they aren't as big as I'd hoped :lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
05-04-2011, 05:50 PM
http://i.imgur.com/nHvmF.jpg

Hugh_Janus
05-04-2011, 05:53 PM
http://i.imgur.com/nHvmF.jpg

now we're talking :lol:

Hal-9000
05-04-2011, 06:12 PM
My coworker has a daughter living in Australia and he visits every year...
He was just telling me about a spider he saw behind her house...the size of a pie plate :shock:

He's a tough old guy but won't sleep on the floor of the ground when he's there.

Hal-9000
05-04-2011, 06:15 PM
he doesn't know the proper name..they call it 'the bird eating spider'


*shivers*