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FBD
11-14-2013, 06:26 PM
http://nypost.com/2013/11/14/pot-vaporizers-let-professionals-get-stoned/

The 40th birthday party in the Catskills this past summer was full of adult entertainment: swimming, a pig roast and a few joints.

When one attendee — a 53-year-old filmmaker who lives in Cobble Hill — asked another partygoer for a light to spark one up, she instead pulled out a sleek hand-held contraption that looked like an oversize USB drive.

Turned out it was a Pax vaporizer, a high-tech gadget that has stormed the market for upscale marijuana devices since it debuted last year. (Officially, Pax markets its products as vaporizers for loose-leaf tobacco.)

“I was smitten immediately,” says the filmmaker, who, like most people in this story, asked that his name not be used so he could discuss his illegal drug use. “This was just so easy — really smooth.”

After the party, he promptly went online to buy one of the $250 devices, and started using it regularly, even going on a bit of a pot bender with it, after 40 years of smoking from traditional joints and pipes.

“It was like Christmas morning for a few months,” he says.

The filmmaker is far from alone: John Smith, manager of Smoking Culture on West Fourth Street in the Village, estimates his shop sells 50 to 100 vaporizers a week, making them the second most popular item after regular hand-blown glass bowls.

“I get a lot of upper-class guys in here,” says Smith. “They’ve got money, they’re captains of industry.”

While a basic bowl costs as little as $20, most of the popular vaporizer models start at $250 and can run as much as $700.
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G Pen: Popular with formerly bluntsmoking hip-hop fans, thanks to an endorsement by Snoop Dogg. $100 at grencoscience.com
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The Volcano: This high-end home vaporizer offers precise temperature control. $420 to $669 at volcanovaporizer. com
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Atmos: This pen-shaped portable vaporizer is more discreet, but packs less of a punch. $190 at atmosrx.com
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The Davinci: Looks like a walkie-talkie, with digital temperature control. $200 at davincivaporizer. com

“I smoke so much, I’d been giving myself sinus infections,” says one 25-year-old graphic designer in Bushwick who recently switched to a Pax after a decade of smoking daily via bowls and joints.

She felt a difference right away: “It feels so much better to be smoking a vaporizer. I’ve been getting sick less.”

Unlike traditional smoking devices, which burn marijuana directly, there is no ash or harsh smoke. (Vaporizers originally caught on in the early ’90s with asthma and cancer patients who got high for either recreational or medicinal purposes.)

The devices are fairly simple to operate: Users place a few pinches of marijuana into a small compartment, then press a button to activate a heating element that operates much like a convection oven, stripping the plant’s cannabinoids — including its psychotropic THC molecules — and releasing a vapor containing just the good stuff. (The portable devices use rechargeable batteries; pricier at-home models run off power cords.)

The user then inhales through a mouthpiece.

“We are not regular smokers, but when we do, [a vaporizer offers] a much more pleasant experience,” says one 36-year-old nonprofit professional who lives with her fiancé in the Financial District.

Another big plus?

The vapor, while not entirely scentless, is far more discreet than the usual big ol’ dank cloud of smoke.

“It leaves less of an odor for our neighbors,” notes the professional.

Users report the ability to toke away in public, without fear of alerting every cop within sniffing range.

“I have used it in Brooklyn Bowl, the Gutter, Yankee Stadium, many streets, bars, parks, people’s homes,” one 29-year-old educator, who lives in Crown Heights and teaches classes at a popular city attraction, says of his Iolite, a handheld vaporizer that looks like a walkie-talkie.

“It’s way less obvious than a bowl or joint.”

A 30-year-old musician in Bushwick says he’s used his pen-like vaporizer in movie theaters, subway trains, airplanes and at baseball games.

“It’s perfect for those things,” he says. “We’re going to a Mets game, we can blaze the whole time.”

It’s that kind of brazenness that has some people worried that pot smokers could be getting high, well, everywhere.

Brooklyn Bowl, for instance, recently banned electronic cigarettes because, a bouncer says, people were using marijuana vaporizers in the club, and it was too hard to tell the difference between the two.

But while smoking weed is still illegal, it’s hardly a major offense here in New York City: Getting caught in public with less than 25 grams of marijuana — though technically a misdemeanor — usually results in a civil penalty (a $100 ticket for first-time offenders; $200 for a second offense).

And during his campaign, Mayor-Elect Bill de Blasio stated that he supported decriminalizing possession of less than 15 grams.

James Monsees, CEO of Ploom, the company that makes the Pax, says vaporization is only going to spread as marijuana laws loosen around the country: Last year, Colorado and Washington state legalized small amounts of marijuana for personal use, and a Gallup poll released last month found that 58 percent of Americans are OK with pot being legal — the first time a majority has given the thumbs up to lighting up.

“It’s the refinement of those products that makes them much more attractive on a mass scale,” says Monsees, especially “in states in the US where cannabis laws are being changed.”

Meanwhile, even skeptical smokers who cherish the sacred tradition of sitting down with friends, rolling a communal joint and passing it around are shifting their habits.

“I brought it to my boy’s house, and he was like, ‘There’s no way this is going to get us high,’ ” says Vincent Johnson, a 26-year-old bartender in Bayonne, who uses a device in which vapor is sucked out of a tube.

“They were amazed. It does the trick. We just pass the tube to each other.”
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The Pax: Available for $250 at ploom.com

How the Pax — the iPod of pot vaporizers — works

Step 1: Once the battery is fully charged, open up the magnetic oven compartment on the bottom. Experts recommend grinding the weed first, which increases surface area.

Step 2: Close the compartment and click the retractable mouthpiece, which will snap into the ‘‘on’’ position. The light on the side glows different colors while it is heating. Once it’s green, it’s ready to use.

Step 3: Put the mouthpiece between your lips and inhale. Short, quick puffs are all that is needed. Even if it doesn’t look like anything is coming out, it is. Good indicators that it’s done? The product will turn a dark brown color and have a burnt-popcorn taste and smell.

Step 4: When finished, just push the mouthpiece back in to return it to “off” mode. Don’t throw away the leftovers! Depending on how long the product has been vaped and how well it has been ground, it may still have an effect: The Internet is rife with recipes for stoners who use leftovers to make pot butter for baked goods.

Hal-9000
11-14-2013, 06:30 PM
I've been in the same room with a Volcano vaporizer







8-[

FBD
11-14-2013, 06:33 PM
And if you want to go one step better, get "honey oil" - while the most potent weed is what, somewhere around 20% thc potency - honey oil is...hah, 90%. I've made other concoctions with certain extraction methods before, but nothing even close to as powerful as this stuff, plus its hard to extract the THC without getting plant material along for the ride. The honey oil takes advantage of the strong endothermic reaction from decompressing (some sort of medical grade) butane into a chamber with the entire plant - the THC is soluble in the alcohol (which is why I'd used grain in the past) and the shit basically freezes and winds up in a tray - then the liquid is double boiled down to evaporate all of the butane, leaving behind what looks like a solid chunk of all those little hairs on the plant.

It gets you stoned immaculate, I tried some and got so high it was like its own meditative state. Plus you get none of the plant, so for anyone that's looking for a "healthy high" that is devoid of all the bad things people can possibly come up with about weed.

Well, I can come up with one still, because it is and forever shall be, a stimulant.

My buddy got a pen that looks like one of these USB drives...it even charges via USB....and the smoke? You'd never even know someone was smoking weed unless you knew the difference between what pot plant burning smells like and what actual THC burning smells like.

Hal-9000
11-14-2013, 06:38 PM
ummm....I'm going to pick up some honey oil tonight (made with butane, which I hate...) and the guy uses a further process to make honeycomb....kinda of a gel cookie wafer when it's done.



would you like some pics? :lol:

Muddy
11-14-2013, 06:39 PM
You've got to try the blue Meth, man... It's ridiculous..

Hal-9000
11-14-2013, 06:40 PM
my coworker has pics on his phone right now of the honeycomb....as close to 100% pure THC as a person can get

FBD
11-14-2013, 06:43 PM
You've got to try the blue Meth, man... It's ridiculous..

:hand: never did anything harder than weed*...never will...


(*ok, I didnt know what a "snowcap" was like 5 years ago when I was at a party and a bowl got passed to me, and I was sitting there wondering why it tasted like plastic...one and only time :lol: )

Hal-9000
11-14-2013, 06:44 PM
One little tidbit of the honeycomb and you'll reevaluate the soft drug scale :lol:

FBD
11-14-2013, 06:47 PM
yeah, was still high the next morning!

every time I get close to trimming back or quitting, something always happens that makes me light up a bunch. I tell ya.

Muddy
11-14-2013, 06:48 PM
THC sucks.. CBD is where the mellow is..

FBD
11-14-2013, 06:50 PM
haha....naturally, personally, internally created DMT is the king shit.

Muddy
11-14-2013, 06:52 PM
Whos got the time to create that shit, man? I want a beer and good feeling.. NOW.. :lol:

Hal-9000
11-14-2013, 07:11 PM
I want pain relief and brain cell loss....NOW :lol:

PorkChopSandwiches
11-14-2013, 07:25 PM
Im not a big fan of the concentrates, they get me to high sometimes

Hal-9000
11-14-2013, 07:27 PM
the honeycomb is probably the most effective and weirdest thing I've tried (one blast)

I may be getting a tiny brick of it tonight depending on price.....so my posts tomorrow will probably be more idiotic than normal :lol:

Hal-9000
11-14-2013, 07:29 PM
Im not a big fan of the concentrates, they get me to high sometimes

wanna borrow my snuggie, Snowflake?




:lol:

PorkChopSandwiches
11-14-2013, 07:47 PM
My buddy handing me a vapor pen with wax in it after a round of golf, on my drive home I thought I wasnt going to make it, I had about 5 miles to go. I started freaking myself out.

Hal-9000
11-14-2013, 08:35 PM
j/k....I was talking about the product itself, not the method of smoking it...

weed>weed oil>honey oil>honeycomb

the 'comb would probably paralyze you, it's pretty potent stuff :thumbsup:

PorkChopSandwiches
11-14-2013, 09:05 PM
j/k....I was talking about the product itself, not the method of smoking it...

weed>weed oil>honey oil>honeycomb

the 'comb would probably paralyze you, it's pretty potent stuff :thumbsup:

Do you get wax out there?

http://i.imgur.com/nxTYDXY.jpg

Hal-9000
11-14-2013, 09:06 PM
Never heard of it...do tell :lol:

Muddy
11-14-2013, 09:14 PM
If it's paranoid whats the point?

PorkChopSandwiches
11-14-2013, 09:18 PM
Never heard of it...do tell :lol:

Its SUPER concentrate, thats what we were smoking



(FOX 11) It's the latest cannabis craze -- a concentrated form of marijuana known as "wax." It looks like ear wax, but potheads say it smokes like a mule kicks.

Experts tell us most marijuana wax is more than 80% pure THC, the active ingredient in marijuana. Compare that with the average marijuana leaf with 20% to 30% TCH, according to reports.

Those who say they know, claim wax is the most powerful marijuana concentrate on the market.

So, apparently a "dose" of wax can really blow your mind.

PorkChopSandwiches
11-14-2013, 09:19 PM
If it's paranoid whats the point?

Thats why I dont mess with it, unless you have a real high tolerance.

Hal-9000
11-14-2013, 09:30 PM
The honeycomb is supposedly close to 100%...a really good friend makes it and I'm going to see the set up tonight. Apparently silicon filters, screens and other hi-tech stuff is used.

I call him Heisenberg now :lol:

Acid Trip
11-14-2013, 09:31 PM
:bong:

PorkChopSandwiches
11-14-2013, 09:34 PM
The honeycomb is supposedly close to 100%...a really good friend makes it and I'm going to see the set up tonight. Apparently silicon filters, screens and other hi-tech stuff is used.

I call him Heisenberg now :lol:

Its not rocket science, just butane. But, you can blow yourself up

Hal-9000
11-14-2013, 10:03 PM
yeah he uses butane to make the oil...the honeycomb is similar process...but different :lol:


another buddy makes real oil using 100% isopropanol, filters... and cooks it for about 5 hours...dangerous too but the oil is pristine and there's no butane taste or involvement

Muddy
11-15-2013, 02:00 AM
Thats why I dont mess with it, unless you have a real high tolerance.

Cbds man.. Thats the good feelings..