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Teh One Who Knocks
12-09-2013, 01:03 PM
By Ivan Moreno, The Associated Press


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A baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex ceremony must serve gay couples despite his religious beliefs or face fines, a judge said Friday.

The order from administrative law judge Robert N. Spencer said Masterpiece Cakeshop in suburban Denver discriminated against a couple "because of their sexual orientation by refusing to sell them a wedding cake for their same-sex marriage."

The order says the cake-maker must "cease and desist from discriminating" against gay couples. Although the judge did not impose fines in this case, the business will face penalties if it continues to turn away gay couples who want to buy cakes.

The American Civil Liberties Union filed a complaint against shop owner Jack Phillips with the Colorado Civil Rights Commission last year on behalf of Charlie Craig, 33, and David Mullins, 29. The couple was married in Massachusetts and wanted a wedding cake to celebrate in Colorado.
Mullins and Craig wanted to buy a cake in July 2012, but when Phillips found out the cake was to celebrate a gay wedding, he turned the couple away, according to the complaint.

Nicolle Martin, an attorney for Masterpiece Cakeshop, said the judge's order puts Phillips in an impossible position of going against his Christian faith.

"He can't violate his conscience in order to collect a paycheck," she said. "If Jack can't make wedding cakes, he can't continue to support his family. And in order to make wedding cakes, Jack must violate his belief system. That is a reprehensible choice. It is antithetical to everything America stands for."

The Civil Rights Commission is expected to certify the judge's order next week. Phillips can appeal the judge's order, and Martin said they're considering their next steps.

Mullins said he and Craig are "ecstatic."

"To a certain extent, though, I don't think that this is necessarily a surprise," he said. "We thought it was pretty clear cut that he had discriminated against us."

Mullins said he hopes the "decision will help ensure that no one else will experience this kind of discrimination again in Colorado."

A similar case is pending in Washington state, where a florist is accused of refusing service for a same-sex wedding. In New Mexico, the state Supreme Court ruled in August that an Albuquerque business was wrong to decline to photograph a same-sex couple's commitment ceremony.

Colorado has a constitutional ban against gay marriage but allows civil unions. The civil union law, which passed earlier this year, does not provide religious protections for businesses.

"At first blush, it may seem reasonable that a private business should be able to refuse service to anyone it chooses," Judge Spencer said in his written order. "This view, however, fails to take into account the cost to society and the hurt caused to persons who are denied service simply because of who they are."

ACLU attorney Amanda Goad said no one is asking Phillips to change his religious beliefs.

"But treating gay people differently because of who they are is discrimination, plain and simple," she said.

Pony
12-09-2013, 01:55 PM
Would you really want to eat something knowing the person who make it didnt like you?

Teh One Who Knocks
12-09-2013, 01:59 PM
These guys are asshats and attention whores, especially the guy on the right in the photo. Since it's a local story here, the local news has run it a lot and he gets his face on camera as much as possible. He is as unlikable as possible and I would love to walk up to him and punch him in the face.

Muddy
12-09-2013, 02:54 PM
What a crock of shit.

Teh One Who Knocks
12-09-2013, 02:55 PM
What a crock of shit.

Exactly....there's hundreds bakeries in metro Denver, go to a fucking different one!

redred
12-09-2013, 03:08 PM
Bet all kinds of things will be dropped into that cake mix

perrhaps
12-09-2013, 04:23 PM
Lemons into lemonade. One "fruitcake" coming up.

Loser
12-09-2013, 06:57 PM
Not saying I agree with this baker.

I dunno about shit ass colorado, but in Indiana, we can refuse peoples business for any fking reason we like.

PorkChopSandwiches
12-09-2013, 07:01 PM
We dont serve blacks

Teh One Who Knocks
12-09-2013, 07:02 PM
Not saying I agree with this baker.

I dunno about shit ass colorado, but in Indiana, we can refuse peoples business for any fking reason we like.

Until someone files a federal discrimination lawsuit against your business

FBD
12-09-2013, 10:34 PM
I dont understand why he didnt just charge them $900 for the cake. Dont like my prices? Why, there's plenty of other cheaper places. This is a high end boutique cake place, see.

Loser
12-10-2013, 05:15 AM
Until someone files a federal discrimination lawsuit against your business

We have laws that protect business's from these types of lawsuits.

Teh One Who Knocks
12-10-2013, 11:27 AM
We have laws that protect business's from these types of lawsuits.

State laws do not trump federal laws

Pony
12-10-2013, 12:40 PM
Just make sure when you refuse someone you give them a reason that is not discrimination.

You're an asshole, I dont like you,get out.

Teh One Who Knocks
12-10-2013, 12:56 PM
Just make sure when you refuse someone you give them a reason that is not discrimination.

You're an asshole, I dont like you,get out.

Exactly this...if you say that you won't serve them because they are gay, then you are gonna get sued federally and no state law will protect you. But if you state like Pony did, there is nothing they can do about it.