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Teh One Who Knocks
12-10-2013, 12:29 PM
By CAROLYN HAX, SYNDICATED COLUMNIST


Carolyn:

I'm pretty annoyed and appalled at my brother, "Ted," and his wife, "Lisa," regarding Christmas and I'm wondering how to approach them.

On our side of the family there are four siblings (including Ted) and five nieces and nephews. Three years ago we decided that the Christmas gift exchange had gotten to be too much so we agreed that gifts among the siblings and grandparents would only be given to the children. It worked beautifully and everyone had a blast (we thought) watching the kids with their toys.

Last week, Ted informed me that he and Lisa are bowing out of the afternoon gift exchange and will only show for dinner in the evening because, as the only childless couple, they're "not really a part of it." Meaning, because they don't get any presents they're not going to give any!

I was shocked at such stinginess considering that, even though none of us is hurting for money, they're by far the wealthiest.

It hurts even more considering the fact that they provide a veritable waterfall of presents for Lisa's goddaughter and every year they buy a ton of toys for the "giving tree" at their church!

My sister and I don't know how to explain to our kids that their uncle and aunt don't think enough of them to buy them a little Christmas present. As oldest, I've been elected to talk to Ted about this and I'm looking for help in presenting to Ted how bad this makes him look to the rest of the family and how to get him to reconsider.

-- Scrooge's Sibling


Yikes. You might be a lovely person and protective parent, but I struggle to think of a worse message, or worse spokesperson to deliver it.

You want to "get him" to reconsider? How is it possibly your place to tell your brother how he should spend his money and to whom he should give his gifts? And it's inconceivable to me that you'd hit upon "their uncle and aunt don't think enough of" the kids, and then quit your search on the spot for any other possible explanation.

I get that it looks bad for Ted and Lisa to opt out of gifts for kids, and create the appearance of stomping off because there's nothing in this for them. Maybe yours is the accurate read.

But it's neither the only possibility nor a persuasive one to me. If Ted and Lisa have long been the non-parents at child-centric family events, then their choice might be a coping mechanism for them, not a slap to your kids -- especially if they want to be parents but keep hitting obstacles.

Maybe, too, they never enjoyed the kid frenzy and prefer seeing their nieces and nephews one family at a time. Even some parents would opt out of child-centric events if they could.

Consider this one also: With four siblings and grandparents, plural, among the adults, all affluent, and with only five kids receiving gifts, and with a family precedent of gift-giving run amok, it's not hard for me to whomp up a mental image of Christmas day excess.

You did cut back, yes, but not for the kids -- and please know this is from a parent who loves her children fiercely and gets vicarious joy from watching them open a wanted gift: Watching kids rip through a pile of material things can tip from joyful to repulsive quickly, when lovingly chosen gems get devalued by sheer excess. How do you feel when a kid opens a substantial, wanted gift, then immediately goes digging for more? And pouts upon discovering there's nothing else?

Whether your pared-down Christmas is still "too much," and whether Ted and Lisa are put off by that, and whether they opted out for that reason, I obviously can't say. Again, it's just one possibility. But their focus on charity hints at it, right? And could it be that Lisa's goddaughter doesn't have six-plus financially comfortable gift-oriented adults in her corner, allowing Ted and Lisa to feel they're filling a need versus feeding a beast?

I suggest other motivations to get you thinking, but they're academic. If I were Ted, I'd be "pretty annoyed and appalled" if an elected family representative presumed to tell me how to spend my money, and showed such righteous disrespect for my choices. Even if he's being cheap and childish in opting out, your trespassing in his business is worse.

Most of all, I'd wonder why you approached me solely to extract gifts, and not to understand my reasoning and find another way to include me. So I'll ask you: Why? Don't say boo to Ted until you fill in that blank.

And for the love of molded plastic, say nothing to your kids except this, and only if they ask: "Uncle Ted is focusing on the needy -- good for him. Why don't we shop for the 'giving tree' too?"

redred
12-10-2013, 12:45 PM
got to love christmas it's all about the take take take



really can't wait to the new year and christmas is forgotten till september again

RBP
12-10-2013, 01:51 PM
Ugh. Breeders can be so ridiculously myopic.

PorkChopSandwiches
12-10-2013, 04:12 PM
what a cunt

Tank
12-11-2013, 02:59 PM
Screw Ted and his pissy Sibling!

I have no kids but between my brothers I have 8 Nieces and Nephews, and now a foster 'sister'. I buy for each of them every birthday and Christmas. Spending the same amount on all of them, regardless of ages.

And you know what, I expect nothing back! I do it because I love every little one of them.
I do it regardless of one of my brothers being a total douche and never giving anyone else in the family anything, but giving his kids more than they can use!

I do it because Christmas is all about the Children!! I love seeing their little faces when they open up their present that Santa left at their uncles house by mistake.

If/when I have kids I know my generosity will be reciprocated to them through my brothers, even possibly the Douche!

So once again, Fuck Ted and his "not really a part of it" shitty attitude.
And Fuck his brother for being so petty!

If they maybe pooled together between the family and got something for Ted and his wife every other year or something maybe Ted would still be "part of it". Giving goes both ways, children or not!
(my one brother insists on buying me and the wife something each as we buy for their kids, despite my insistence that there's no need, as we want/need for nothing.)

Acid Trip
12-11-2013, 04:11 PM
A duel to the death is the only viable solution this problem.

DemonGeminiX
12-11-2013, 08:24 PM
Ted and Lisa should just get new identities and disappear.

Ted's sibling should grab the nearest reachable mailbag and deliver the mail, like Lance does when he's upset over repetitious radio ads.

RBP
12-11-2013, 08:41 PM
Ted and Lisa should just get new identities and disappear.

Ted's sibling should grab the nearest reachable mailbag and deliver the mail, like Lance does when he's upset over repetitious radio ads.

Really? Why can they not choose to just come for dinner? It's an obligation to participate in a child-centric event when you have no kids?

DemonGeminiX
12-11-2013, 08:58 PM
Actually, I was joking, but if you wanna be serious: To get away from his bitchy sibling? If the bitchy sibling bitches about something like this, something they have no place to bitch about, than what else are they bitching about? They can't be making their brother feel real good. Now I might be assuming too much by thinking that shit like this goes on all the time, but I always say that if somebody makes you miserable whenever you talk to them or hang out with them, then it's best to remove them from your life.

RBP
12-11-2013, 09:02 PM
Actually, I was joking, but if you wanna be serious: To get away from his bitchy sibling? If the bitchy sibling bitches about something like this, something they have no place to bitch about, than what else are they bitching about? They can't be making their brother feel real good. Now I might be assuming too much by thinking that shit like this goes on all the time, but I always say that if somebody makes you miserable whenever you talk to them or hang out with them, then it's best to remove them from your life.

Ah, okay, sorry. I didn't read your sarcasm...

DemonGeminiX
12-11-2013, 09:04 PM
No worries.

Teh One Who Knocks
12-11-2013, 10:32 PM
No worries.

:nervous:

PorkChopSandwiches
12-11-2013, 10:36 PM
Ted's sibling should grab the nearest reachable mailbag and deliver the mail, like Lance does when he's upset over repetitious radio ads.

:rofl:

Hal-9000
12-11-2013, 11:15 PM
on an unrelated note....my brother makes millions and gives me jack-shit for Xmas and birthdays...I get 3 picks on a lottery ticket...

he has a fleet of vehicles and just built (another) 1.2 million dollar home...I don't begrudge him for getting a job in a lucrative field or for having nice things, it's the 'giving' part that he sucks at.

He recently got married and didn't invite anyone from our family to the wedding, in fact he told us about it after it happened....our Mom and Dad included. He had no pictures of our family up in his latest mansion, just recently put an old family photo on the fireplace and became angry when my sister joked about it.

Then he wonders why no one wants to come to his place for meals, Xmas etc....it's because he can give so much to himself and leave everyone else in the dust when it comes to simple gift giving...