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PorkChopSandwiches
12-18-2013, 05:08 PM
A content editor on Reddit’s science forum wrote Monday that the site has banned climate-change skeptics, and asks why more news outlets haven’t done the same.

“About a year ago, we moderators became increasingly stringent with deniers,” Reddit content editor Nathan Allen wrote in grist. “When a potentially controversial submission was posted, a warning would be issued stating the rules for comments (most importantly that your comment isn’t a conspiracy theory) and advising that further violations of the rules could result in the commenter being banned from the forum.”

Allen explains that climate change became an ironically heated topic among commenters on Reddit’s science forum, /r/science, which he described as “a window into the Ivory Tower” for “non-scientists” to connect with experts like himself.

Climate-change believers accused skeptics of being bought out by “big oil,” while the skeptics accused believers of being on the take from “big green.”

Despite the provocative comments on both sides described by Allen, and Reddit’s reputation as “passionately dedicated to free speech,” the self-described “PhD chemist” decided it was time for the skeptics to go.

“After some time interacting with the regular denier posters, it became clear that they could not or would not improve their demeanor,” Allen said. “As a scientist myself, it became clear to me that the contrarians were not capable of providing the science to support their ‘skepticism’ on climate change.”

As a result, about half a dozen content editors now practice “proactive moderation” on the science forum’s reported 4-million subscribers.

“As moderators responsible for what millions of people see, we felt that to allow a handful of commenters to so purposefully mislead our audience was simply immoral,” Allen said of the audience he previously described as “mainly academic.”

He later describes the same audience as “‘internet trolls’ looking to have a little fun upsetting people. Such users are practically the norm on Reddit.”

Allen then expressed surprise that removing an entire faction of commenters “resulted in a change in the culture within the comments. Where once there were personal insults and bitter accusations, there is now discussion of the relevant aspects of the research.”

“While we won’t claim /r/science is perfect, users seem happy with the changes made,” Allen said.

Muddy
12-18-2013, 05:12 PM
I cant stand a friggin troll.

Loser
12-18-2013, 06:57 PM
I can't stand one sided conversations, with people speaking as if what they're saying is the ultimate truth.

PorkChopSandwiches
12-18-2013, 06:57 PM
I thinks it's bullshit, all the facts have been falsified, yet they won't let another opinion be voiced

Teh One Who Knocks
12-18-2013, 07:06 PM
Reddit :roll:

Hal-9000
12-18-2013, 08:46 PM
I listen and read the scientists who don't have an agenda and aren't affiliated with an energy program.

I'll try to find a link when I remember the guy's name...he looked at the data, gathered more himself and reported what changes are taking effect.

I'm a believer in climate change simply for the reason that we inhabit the earth, there's more of us every year and our 'footprint' impacts and affects the environment. Anyone who says were not affecting the atmosphere, water supply and flora of the planet is not reading the facts.

Acid Trip
12-18-2013, 09:00 PM
Always be wary of people who seek to silence their critics. Hitler, Mao, Stalin, etc...

Hal-9000
12-18-2013, 09:20 PM
it's too bad there couldn't be a healthy, worldwide, two sided debate featuring actual scientists and their data/thoughts...


proof is always in the pudding as they say...

FBD
12-18-2013, 11:37 PM
I listen and read the scientists who don't have an agenda and aren't affiliated with an energy program.

I'll try to find a link when I remember the guy's name...he looked at the data, gathered more himself and reported what changes are taking effect.

I'm a believer in climate change simply for the reason that we inhabit the earth, there's more of us every year and our 'footprint' impacts and affects the environment. Anyone who says were not affecting the atmosphere, water supply and flora of the planet is not reading the facts.
and anyone who does not begin this equation from first principles of where the fk does heat come from in the first place has no business creating a model and claiming its output is anything but a fantasy world 8)

Godfather
12-19-2013, 06:26 AM
This is really fucking strange to me. I'm a (disinterested) believer in human driven climate change to some degree, but that's besides the point. This sub has just nuked its own credibility in a very serious way. Makes the little conspiracy voice in my head louder.

There is still http://www.reddit.com/r/climateskeptics/ though, which is free to do as it pleases and has 5000+ members. It's only one sub that has banned skeptics as far as I know, not all of Reddit (albeit a top 20 sub).

RBP
12-19-2013, 04:18 PM
it's too bad there couldn't be a healthy, worldwide, two sided debate featuring actual scientists and their data/thoughts...

proof is always in the pudding as they say...

You know why right? The science of climate change is driven by funding. Funding is driven by politics. On this issue, the science and politics are so intertwined that scientists are forced to deliver results that support an agenda or risk losing the funding.

FBD
12-20-2013, 02:17 AM
what some people dont get is how big oil companies are just fine with all of these taxes and making the commodity scarce and shit. its like these asswipes dont understand basic supply and demand economics. as if they are going to pay anything additional...any additional expense, immediately passed on to the consumer. make the supply dwindle? why thanks, greenies, you just made our unit price go way the fug up.

plus the sloped foreheads that believe in the co2 conjecture refuse to count any money spent by governments in their "who spends what on what" calculation. skew the numbers like that and of course you see its mainly private money funding the real science.

the governments just subsidize what they want to see.

solve from first principles and then you realize why every single model that has an inordinately high warming coefficient makes garbage for predictions, no matter how hard they curve-fit their graphs and model output.

FBD
12-20-2013, 02:17 AM
what some people dont get is how big oil companies are just fine with all of these taxes and making the commodity scarce and shit. its like these asswipes dont understand basic supply and demand economics. as if they are going to pay anything additional...any additional expense, immediately passed on to the consumer. make the supply dwindle? why thanks, greenies, you just made our unit price go way the fug up.

plus the sloped foreheads that believe in the co2 conjecture refuse to count any money spent by governments in their "who spends what on what" calculation. skew the numbers like that and of course you see its mainly private money funding the real science.

the governments just subsidize what they want to see.

solve from first principles and then you realize why every single model that has an inordinately high warming coefficient makes garbage for predictions, no matter how hard they curve-fit their graphs and model output.