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Teh One Who Knocks
01-13-2014, 01:46 PM
Erin Gloria Ryan - Jezebel


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Much to the chagrin of a certain old-timey subset, traditional American masculinity is on its way out. Gone are days of the breadwinning hard hat wearers earning enough to support a wife that stays at home with 2.5 children; in 2014, the Haves wear bowties with short sleeved button down shirts and post pictures of their adopted three legged cat "Atticus" to Instagram while they wait for their daily webinar to start and the Have Nots drive their NOBAMA mudflapped trucks to the unemployment office.

Many vocal, thinkpiece-writing detractors blame this phenomenon— which has been cringingly referred to as the "feminization" of America — on feminists. But blaming women (a historically disenfranchised demographic) for fucking things up men (who have spent the last 10,000 years of human civilization in charge of most things) is pretty foolish. If we're looking at who is to blame for the death of American masculinity, we need to blame... men.

Via Forbes, libertarian thinker and blogger Rachel Burger makes the compelling argument that the reason boys have fallen behind girls at almost every level of education, and the reason that young childless urban women with college degrees outearn their male counterparts, and the reason that MEN ARE ENDING isn't because big mean feminists used all the power they stole from men in the 1970's to hairy armpit and henpeck them into fey submission. It's because we live in a capitalist society, and the capitalist economy that men of the twentieth century built and profited from also profited from shipping jobs that require traditionally "masculine" qualities overseas. She writes,


...feminists aren't to blame for this economic shift. After all, it was men who invented the Internet, who created and sold mass-produced computers, who shipped jobs overseas and who even fashioned social media. To blame women for the change in the male labor market is to feign ignorance of the realities of history. And in the West's new creative economy, physical labor is, quite simply, less valuable.

Like most wars, Suzanne Venker/James Taranto/ Camile Paglia/Christina Hoff Summers' WAR ON MEN was fought mostly by.... men. Specifically, post World War II men. Another reason to hate your parents, Generations X and Y, if you see the dearth of jobs requiring upper body strength as a bad thing.

As Burger points out, jobs available to American workers now are more likely to place a premium on compromise, communication, networking, and other skills women and girls are socialized to value more than men and boys. If parents want to groom men to succeed in a communication and service-based economy, argues Burger, then yeah they're going to have to socialize them to act more like "socially intelligent" girls. Because otherwise they'll get their wall-punching asses fired. You can't golf your way up the corporate ladder anymore.

Burger's piece adopts a bit of a *shrug* get used to it! tone, which I suppose applies to the changing nature of high-paying, corporate jobs that pay a living wage, but seems a little callous when applied to jobs on the lower end of the economic spectrum; the high paying, high skilled manual labor jobs that captains of industry went ahead and outsourced are being replaced by jobs in the service and health care industry that pay a hell of a lot less, pushing workers with lower levels of education even further down the economic ladder and opening up a precipitous gap between rich and poor. From this perspective, it makes more sense to call this aspect of the economic "war on men" what it actually is: a war on the working poor.

And it's interesting to consider the implications of Burger's argument as it relates to conservative nostalgia for the swaggering cowboy as embodied in such silly struggles as the fight against anti-bullying rules. If the economy has evolved into one that rewards "girly" qualities like social intelligence and collaboration, then conservatives who insist on making little cowboys out of their sons are literally setting them up to fail. And then get really angry about it.

But ultimately, Burger is absolutely correct in asserting that feminists aren't the primary force responsible for this particular set of changes in the American social fabric — the economy is. Blaming the so-called War On Men on women is as silly as painting oneself into a corner and then blaming the person who point out the paint color.

Hal-9000
01-13-2014, 05:01 PM
"...the power they stole from men in the 1970's to hairy armpit and henpeck them into fey submission."


:lol: where the fuck is RBP to stick up for us menz

Noilly Pratt
01-13-2014, 05:06 PM
I think it's both.

Muddy
01-13-2014, 05:24 PM
:rbp:

PorkChopSandwiches
01-13-2014, 05:37 PM
This is why I do at least one cock pushup a day

Pony
01-13-2014, 05:42 PM
This is why I do at least one cock pushup a day

Dee's cock?

Muddy
01-13-2014, 05:43 PM
Deez nuts..

PorkChopSandwiches
01-13-2014, 05:44 PM
Tenacious D's


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fJkcsOkRb0

FBD
01-13-2014, 09:59 PM
blogger Rachel Burger makes the compelling argument that the reason boys have fallen behind girls at almost every level of education, and the reason that young childless urban women with college degrees outearn their male counterparts, and the reason that MEN ARE ENDING isn't because big mean feminists used all the power they stole from men in the 1970's to hairy armpit and henpeck them into fey submission. It's because we live in a capitalist society, and the capitalist economy that men of the twentieth century built and profited from also profited from shipping jobs that require traditionally "masculine" qualities overseas. She writes,


...feminists aren't to blame for this economic shift. After all, it was men who invented the Internet, who created and sold mass-produced computers, who shipped jobs overseas and who even fashioned social media. To blame women for the change in the male labor market is to feign ignorance of the realities of history. And in the West's new creative economy, physical labor is, quite simply, less valuable.
Look bitch, you might have an argument if we actually had capitalism - but if we did along with some plain and simple evenly applied rule of law for EVERYONE, then we also wouldnt have any of these farcical problems. "Crony capitalism" is not capitalism at all, it is the seed and sproutlet of veritable fascist autoritarianism, and every time it appears that its a critical mass, the hydra springs another head.

Correlation is not causation. Now go write that on your forehead and on the blackboard 5000 times.

Graft and corruption is what its all about, the entire reason we are in a shit of a fiasco. Its present all over the place, our government is corrupt and staffed mainly by gravy train rider yes men who are complicit in the ongoing selling out of the country.

RBP
01-13-2014, 10:38 PM
I can't even read this right now. I'll come back when my head isn't already about to explode.

Hal-9000
01-13-2014, 11:38 PM
I haven't slapped a woman in a long time :-k

When I get my coffee on the way home tonight I think I'll slap the counter worker :) ...just to let them know I'm still a masculine man

Muddy
01-14-2014, 12:39 AM
Use knuckles Hal.. It leaves a longer lasting impression..

KevinD
01-14-2014, 10:28 PM
Gone are days of the breadwinning hard hat wearers earning enough to support a wife that stays at home with 2.5 children

Oh really??



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Hal-9000
01-14-2014, 10:35 PM
is that you Kev?? :lol:

Hal-9000
01-14-2014, 10:35 PM
Use knuckles Hal.. It leaves a longer lasting impression..


:hand: gotta leave them with enough motor skills to make the sammiches

KevinD
01-14-2014, 10:38 PM
is that you Kev?? :lol:

Yeah, got so pissed reading that tripe, ran out to the truck and took a selfie. :lol:

Muddy
01-14-2014, 10:50 PM
:hand: gotta leave them with enough motor skills to make the sammiches

:lol: damn!

Hal-9000
01-14-2014, 10:55 PM
I'm brave in the all-men group :lol:




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