Kung Fu Quest - Wing Chun

[FBD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXCZhXdebxU

:thumbsup:

[Muddy]

Wouldnt last 2 minutes in the ring with an amateur MMA fighter..

BUT! I do respect the purity of the art... Thanks for the share.

[FBD]

:lol: wing chun does not belong in the ring, way too many rules...so if its gonna be real, wing chun is one of the most efficient and effective arts. mma is fun and all, but its not "real fighting."

[Muddy]

No eye gouging or fish hooking are really the only rules last time I looked..

[Hal-9000]

I'm not much of a believer in MMA anything....

A true Wing Chun practitioner can break bones and deflect punches without working up a sweat...

in my humble opinion Wing Chun (or Kung Fu) blackbelt >>>>>> mma fighters

[Hugh_Janus]

I'm not much of a believer in MMA anything....

A true Wing Chun practitioner can break bones and deflect punches without working up a sweat...

in my humble opinion Wing Chun (or Kung Fu) blackbelt >>>>>> mma fighters

nope.... in a ring mma>wing chun all day. However, in real life its the other way around IMO

[DemonGeminiX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czDuH0R73kg

[Muddy]

I'm not much of a believer in MMA anything....

A true Wing Chun practitioner can break bones and deflect punches without working up a sweat...

in my humble opinion Wing Chun (or Kung Fu) blackbelt >>>>>> mma fighters

I love you, but In this regard I think you are completely delusional and wrong. Time and time again its been proven that the ancient arts can not hold ground against these mixed trained fighters.. The reason mma has evolved into what it is, is because all the BS has been stripped away and we are left with the straightest point from point A to point B. Watch the fights.. They dont lie.

[DemonGeminiX]

I don't know about outside the ring, but according to that ^^^ video, wing chun is little more than punching bags for other styles inside the ring. One of the Gracie boys is featured in one of those videos.

[Muddy]

I watched 3 or 4.. But really it just tells me what I know.. All the kung fu guys are searching and waiting for their perfect warrior to descend from the heavens while Mma has about 10 million people walking the streets right here and now.

[Muddy]

I have a good friend who does american freestyle karate for the art.. And he does Krav maga to beat mother fuckers down, in any situation.. Guess what im training in this summer? :mrgreen:

[DemonGeminiX]

Good luck, man.

[Muddy]

Im gonna go easy.. My friend is an instructor so I can skip a lot of the stress tests.. Thanks

[DemonGeminiX]

What are the stress tests?

:-k

[DemonGeminiX]

Never mind. I found an article on it.

[DemonGeminiX]

Ok, after what I just read, I think you should do the stress testing. What's the use of learning the techniques if you're not going to be able to utilize them under pressure?

[Muddy]

We'll see.. I still have 3 months to go.. :lol:

[DemonGeminiX]

This dude has a couple blog articles on it. I'll link you to one:

http://unitedstateskravmaga.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/stress-training/

[Hal-9000]

I love you, but In this regard I think you are completely delusional and wrong. Time and time again its been proven that the ancient arts can not hold ground against these mixed trained fighters.. The reason mma has evolved into what it is, is because all the BS has been stripped away and we are left with the straightest point from point A to point B. Watch the fights.. They dont lie.

I agree, you're completely delusional and wrong :lol:

Which times has it been proven? Have they had a true black belt challenge a MMA guy?


Look, I don't want this argument with you but I know one thing....if those MMA fighters have multiple degrees in whatever disciplines, they wouldn't be hitting each other in the manner they do (slap punches and kicks). Not saying that they are not tough guys or not trained.....but back in the day I've been to gyms, clubs and yes even dojos, and a black belt in kung fu can drop a guy with one kick to the face.

That's why when I see a MMA fight, I laugh. I know you haven't had much experience with street fights, club fighting etc, but two guys don't hit each other for 10 or 15 minutes ending with a submission tap put...especially if they're 'trained' in a martial arts discipline :lol:

[FBD]

No eye gouging or fish hooking are really the only rules last time I looked..its a lot more than that, which is exactly the reason you see the older arts not do very well in the MMA setting. fight for your life vs here's a set of rules, boxing gloves...the gloves alone are a massive detraction. I dunno, watching MMA is like watching neanderthals bash each other in slow motion with clubs, if you were to compare that to seeing someone who knows how to fight, fight for real in a real world setting.


nope.... in a ring mma>wing chun all day. However, in real life its the other way around IMOyup :tup:


I love you, but In this regard I think you are completely delusional and wrong. Time and time again its been proven that the ancient arts can not hold ground against these mixed trained fighters.. The reason mma has evolved into what it is, is because all the BS has been stripped away and we are left with the straightest point from point A to point B. Watch the fights.. They dont lie.I see it the other way around, MMA evolved into a how can we get this closer to....*shines light* rrrrreeeeeal! and accept all styles...so you start setting up rules and the thing takes a life of its own there, and a certain mix of techniques winds up producing the greatest effect.

shit, real world fights, kimbo slice was an entirely different deal...MMA, a joke because he couldnt fight on the ground - in real situations, he basically never had to, but subjected to the ring, the fence, the rules, the competitor exploiting the rules, ground fighting winds up being a significant part of MMA.

in the real world, ground fighting is usually over pretty quickly so long as someone knows what they're doing. two hacks can flop around for quite a while though until they're out of breath :lol:


I have a good friend who does american freestyle karate for the art.. And he does Krav maga to beat mother fuckers down, in any situation.. Guess what im training in this summer? :mrgreen:guess what style krav maga has some pieces of ;)

[Hal-9000]

idk Mudster...those MMA guys could likely beat the tar out of 90% of people they encounter in life...

truth is we both don't know who the better fighters would be until they meet in a street fight...not a closed controlled encounter in a ring.

My bro in law is the guy with the black belt in Tiger Claw Kung-Fu. In 2007 he took me to his dojo for 'demonstration night'. They break boards, do high kicks etc for the audience. After most of the people went home, they had black belt certification matches. They wore finger gloves and head gear....and I saw two guys get knocked out cold :lol: No dirty moves or bone breaking maneuvers, just straight blows to the body at full speed. There wasn't a match than lasted over 6 minutes. That's why when I hear the laundry list of belts the MMA guys have, then watch them fight...I don't buy much of it. Most of the MMA guys are pretty muscular, so they obviously cross train quite a bit and I would not want to get hit by any of them.

Have you ever seen a Karate, Kung Fu, or Ninjutsu black belt guy? They're in shape for sure but they usually don't look that imposing. That's always amazed me....my bro in law is the same way...he's solid and a little heavy, but doesn't look like a weight lifter. Yet the odd time I've lipped off, his arms and legs feel like iron to me when he's throwing me around and tuning me into a pretzel :lol:

[Hal-9000]

I learned some Krav Maga moves :lol:

that's one discipline I'd like to take classes in :tup:

intelligent, economy of movement, brutal moves to defend or bust up a guy who's threatening yo ass :lol: I learned mostly defensive moves

[FBD]

tai chi for the chi gung, baguazhang for the spine twisting and shoulder joint movement...

...and wing chung for fighting :tup:

[Hal-9000]

I watched a guy break 3 stacked 1/2 inch boards with his hand...then reach over and tussle his son's hair right after...

something about that made me cringe :lol:

[DemonGeminiX]

:hand:

Smith and Wesson would kill all of those bastards.

[Hugh_Janus]

nope.... in a ring mma>wing chun all day. However, in real life its the other way around IMO

what I should have said was 1 on 1, mma>most martial arts

[Muddy]

Hal and fbd with your snake dragon kung fu grippin asses... :lol:

[FBD]

:lol: bottom line its *always* down to the skill of the practitioner.

[Muddy]

:lol: bottom line its *always* down to the skill of the practitioner.

Of course.. But you have to admit.. Some of the artsy fartsy elements of traditional martial arts can be bum rushed and over whelmed.

[redred]

the pen is mightier than the fist , you start hitting me about and i'll sue your ass [-(

[FBD]

Of course.. But you have to admit.. Some of the artsy fartsy elements of traditional martial arts can be bum rushed and over whelmed.

heh...I hate to keep on sorta disagreeing, but artsy fartsy is what you get when you remove all of the fighting applications from it... :D bum rush is a bad idea unless your opponent has no idea how to fight...