Girl, 16, Busted On Child Porn Rap For Posting Naked "Selfies" To Twitter

[Teh One Who Knocks]

The Smoking Gun


http://i.imgur.com/tVvxJVWl.jpg
*Not the girl in the story

A Virginia teenager is facing a child pornography charge after allegedly posting naked “selfies” on Twitter, according to police.

The 16-year-old girl was arrested after police received an anonymous tip last week that "multiple" nude photos had recently been uploaded to Twitter.

When questioned by a school resource officer, the teen reportedly “acknowledged that she had taken and posted the pictures on Twitter and had also sent them to some male acquaintances,” according to a James City County Police Department spokesperson. The girl’s mother also confirmed to police that the photos were of her daughter.

The girl, whose name was not released by cops, was charged with distributing child pornography, a felony. Her phone “was taken into custody for evidentiary purposes,” police reported.

According to cops, the teenager has been referred to Juvenile Intake, which “offers a Sexting Education diversion program” for minors and their families. The girl would likely be required to complete the program as part of any case settlement.

Law enforcement agencies regularly issue warnings to parents that their children could face criminal charges for disseminating (or viewing) naked photos of fellow minors.

Last July, a 15-year-old Florida girl was arrested on a child porn count for showing several classmates an iPhone photo depicting “two juveniles engaged in oral sex.” When questioned by police, the girl admitted to taking the photo (in which she appears).

[Muddy]

Yep, I have a 15 year old.. I have told her... I ever find/see a nude picture of you online I promise I will spike your phone on the concrete...

[RBP]

Good. It needs to be done.

[Muddy]

Good. It needs to be done.

So more precisely it isn't actually women you have a disdain for, but underage girls..?

[teabelly]

Unfortunately I think a lot of the selfies are underage.. Kind of scary really. I try not to post them anymore, there are enough 'other' naked women..

[Muddy]

Unfortunately I think a lot of the selfies are underage.. Kind of scary really. I try not to post them anymore, there are enough 'other' naked women..

Yeah, I wont "like" or "thank" them if it's questionable.. I just dont have time to get dragged into some underage suit for a poor judgement call..

[PorkChopSandwiches]

Yep, I have a 15 year old.. I have told her... I ever find/see a nude picture of you online I promise I will spike your phone on the concrete...

And a solid punch to the solar

[Muddy]

I apologize to RBP for attacking the poster and not the post.

[PorkChopSandwiches]

DId you get your medication adjusted?

[redred]

is that why he's saying sorry every 5 posts :lol:

[Jezter]

is that why he's saying sorry every 5 posts :lol:

He is having the menopausal moodswings and shit.

[PorkChopSandwiches]

is that why he's saying sorry every 5 posts :lol:

Thats my guess, he went from grumpy old man to my vag is bleeding feminist :twisted:

[Hugh_Janus]

:worthless:

[Muddy]

Shush, go get my pain pills.. Im hurtin again.. :x

[PorkChopSandwiches]

:hug::beer:

[Hugh_Janus]

:chocolate:

[redred]

:salty balls:

[Lambchop]

I took part in webcam sex on MSN messenger from the age of 14 but doing that shit on a page that anyone can view is asking for trouble. A lot of my friends did the same thing so I think that a lot of the teenagers today use their phones to share nudes etc.

[deebakes]

wank club? :-k

[RBP]

So more precisely it isn't actually women you have a disdain for, but underage girls..?

I'll just make my point.

Letting it go because they are teenagers is myopic. If that same picture is later in the possession of an adult it is child porn, is it not? So how do we define something as child porn down stream that was not child porn at the point of production and initial distribution? A underage girl can distribute the image to who ever she wants but the moment that another person passes it along it now distribution of child porn. So which is it? It's my opinion that it is legally inconsistent to label something child porn down stream that was not child porn at production and initial distribution. The down stream definition is not going to change, so the only answer is what happened here. Treat it as child porn in the entire life cycle.

If you have a better solution, I am all ears. (no offense, Red)

[Hal-9000]

I think the whole practice of teens firing nude photos to each other, treating them like pokes on Facebook, should be stopped.

Yeah little Suzy sending a tittie shot to little Jimmy is not hardcore in the grand scheme of things, but it's becoming far too commonplace and how many kids are doing it now because it's part of peer pressure?

bit of an analogy...in the 80's if a starlet got out of a car in front of the paparazzi with no panties, it would be a complete scandal and she would find it tough getting work in 'respectable' mainstream movies....now it happens and it's treated like flavor of the minute, nothing to see here, let's move on.

We gotta get back some of the mysterious allure...some of the self respect...some of the actual excitement of titillation. Theses kids consider it like the thing to do, after picking up the latest app and I think that's wrong. Let them know it's not ok

[Hugh_Janus]

ban teenagers :hand:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I'll just make my point.

Letting it go because they are teenagers is myopic. If that same picture is later in the possession of an adult it is child porn, is it not? So how do we define something as child porn down stream that was not child porn at the point of production and initial distribution? A underage girl can distribute the image to who ever she wants but the moment that another person passes it along it now distribution of child porn. So which is it? It's my opinion that it is legally inconsistent to label something child porn down stream that was not child porn at production and initial distribution. The down stream definition is not going to change, so the only answer is what happened here. Treat it as child porn in the entire life cycle.

If you have a better solution, I am all ears. (no offense, Red)

I was vilified several years ago back at AS for having this point of view :|

[Pony]

I don't have any problem with them charging them for child porn. I do have an issue when they punish them the same as a 50YO with thousands of images on his computer.

Labeling a 13-17 year old a "predator" for life and locking them up is not the proper course to take. Arrest them, charge them, fine them and mandatory classes or counseling plus a bunch of threats about what would have happened if they were 18 would be sufficient in 99% of these cases.

[Hal-9000]

I don't have any problem with them charging them for child porn. I do have an issue when they punish them the same as a 50YO with thousands of images on his computer.

Labeling a 13-17 year old a "predator" for life and locking them up is not the proper course to take. Arrest them, charge them, fine them and mandatory classes or counseling plus a bunch of threats about what would have happened if they were 18 would be sufficient in 99% of these cases.

For sure, there are layers....let them know it's an offense and save the record and jail time for the people over 18 with tons of kiddie images. :thumbsup:

[Acid Trip]

Labeling a 13-17 year old a "predator" for life and locking them up is not the proper course to take. Arrest them, charge them, fine them and mandatory classes or counseling plus a bunch of threats about what would have happened if they were 18 would be sufficient in 99% of these cases.

I like this idea.

[RBP]

I was vilified several years ago back at AS for having this point of view :|

Wrongly so. :empathy:


I don't have any problem with them charging them for child porn. I do have an issue when they punish them the same as a 50YO with thousands of images on his computer.

Labeling a 13-17 year old a "predator" for life and locking them up is not the proper course to take. Arrest them, charge them, fine them and mandatory classes or counseling plus a bunch of threats about what would have happened if they were 18 would be sufficient in 99% of these cases.

I don't think anyone has suggested that. If you have seen it I'd like to see the reference. I don't disagree with your perspective at all.

[Muddy]

I'll just make my point.

Letting it go because they are teenagers is myopic. If that same picture is later in the possession of an adult it is child porn, is it not? So how do we define something as child porn down stream that was not child porn at the point of production and initial distribution? A underage girl can distribute the image to who ever she wants but the moment that another person passes it along it now distribution of child porn. So which is it? It's my opinion that it is legally inconsistent to label something child porn down stream that was not child porn at production and initial distribution. The down stream definition is not going to change, so the only answer is what happened here. Treat it as child porn in the entire life cycle.

If you have a better solution, I am all ears. (no offense, Red)

Convicting a child of a felony and registering on a sex offender data base is a bit much IMO.. Two 15 year olds sending eac other pictures is not a crime against humanity.. Its two stupid kids making poor choices, experimenting with sexuality with their own kind, and generally not understanding the ramifications of what they are doing. (If said pictures get into the hands of some 40 year old pervert freak that gets his jollies whacking off to barely post pubescent kids). Should the children not be doing this? Of course they shouldn't, they are kids.. Should they be labeled and charged for this the same as the pedos out there who are making a hobby out of collecting and distributing the photos to other like minded possibly sexually deviant individuals.. NO.


I was vilified several years ago back at AS for having this point of view :|

Jesus dude, are you still not over that...? You were asked to please not post pictures of 16 year old kids, mainly the one you speak of here is Miley Cyrus... You guys dont want the gore and stuff posted here because thats not what you want here.. At AS we didnt want a bunch of older guys showing up to gawk at a bunch of Underage Disney and Nickelodian kids.. Thats not the crowd we wanted to attract or frankly to cohort with.. Its sexual.. I'm not sure what you think, but grown adult men arent interested in female child actors because of their Oscar worthy performances..

[RBP]

Convicting a child of a felony and registering on a sex offender data base is a bit much IMO.. Two 15 year olds sending eac other pictures is not a crime against humanity.. Its two stupid kids making poor choices, experimenting with sexuality with their own kind, and generally not understanding the ramifications of what they are doing. (If said pictures get into the hands of some 40 year old pervert freak that gets his jollies whacking off to barely post pubescent kids). Should the children not be doing this? Of course they shouldn't, they are kids.. Should they be labeled and charged for this the same as the pedos out there who are making a hobby out of collecting and distributing the photos to other like minded possibly sexually deviant individuals.. NO.

As I stated a few posts back, I have not seen a single suggestion that the criminal approach between a teen who produces self-shot child pornography and an adult who collects and distributes be the same. Why you guys keep going there, I do not know.

But the fact remains it is child pornography that is being produced and distributed. You can brush is off as normal child flirtation if you like, but I again suggest that is myopic and ignoring the larger implication.

What comes next? A 15 year old who shoots and sells sex tapes? Just flirtatious kids, right? There have already been cases where high schooler kids have collected large groups of all naked selfies, then sold the collections. They got charged big time for possession and distribution. I objected at the time because the actual producers and original distributors faced no charges at all. I can't rationalize that.

[Muddy]

As I stated a few posts back, I have not seen a single suggestion that the criminal approach between a teen who produces self-shot child pornography and an adult who collects and distributes be the same. Why you guys keep going there, I do not know.

But the fact remains it is child pornography that is being produced and distributed. You can brush is off as normal child flirtation if you like, but I again suggest that is myopic and ignoring the larger implication.

What comes next? A 15 year old who shoots and sells sex tapes? Just flirtatious kids, right? There have already been cases where high schooler kids have collected large groups of all naked selfies, then sold the collections. They got charged big time for possession and distribution. I objected at the time because the actual producers and original distributors faced no charges at all. I can't rationalize that.


Its clear Rainbow.. This kid was charged with a felony and you seemed pretty over joyed at that fact... I disagree with the charge.. Its where we lie..

As far as "what comes next" I'm not even hving that discusion, it's totally irrelevent at this point. We cant run around convicting people for crimes that haven't happened yet. We aren't pre-cogs. Hey! what if Obama tripped and fell on the launch button..?

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Jesus dude, are you still not over that...? You were asked to please not post pictures of 16 year old kids, mainly the one you speak of here is Miley Cyrus... You guys dont want the gore and stuff posted here because thats not what you want here.. At AS we didnt want a bunch of older guys showing up to gawk at a bunch of Underage Disney and Nickelodian kids.. Thats not the crowd we wanted to attract or frankly to cohort with.. Its sexual.. I'm not sure what you think, but grown adult men arent interested in female child actors because of their Oscar worthy performances..

What in the fucking fuck are you talking about? I'm talking about I was in favor of charging kids that take and post naked pictures of themselves. You know, kind of the topic of this whole fuckingh thread. Maybe you should ask what the fuck I meant if you didn't fucking understand it and go and make fucking assumptions. Fucking Christ....

[Muddy]

What in the fucking fuck are you talking about? I'm talking about I was in favor of charging kids that take and post naked pictures of themselves. You know, kind of the topic of this whole fuckingh thread. Maybe you should ask what the fuck I meant if you didn't fucking understand it and go and make fucking assumptions. Fucking Christ....

Well obviously I am referring to the wrong incident. My apologies if that is not the specific case you were supposedly vilified for. It was the one that stuck out in my mind because you have made numerous references to it over the years.

[Muddy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqBYm5zHTEg

[Lambchop]

This thread made me remember.

When I was 14 a 30something year old woman masturbated with a dildo in her vag and anus for me on Yahoo messenger.

We can only imagine what these teens get up to with all of this mobile technology and fast data.

[deebakes]

:uwank:

[RBP]

Its clear Rainbow.. This kid was charged with a felony and you seemed pretty over joyed at that fact... I disagree with the charge.. Its where we lie..

As far as "what comes next" I'm not even hving that discusion, it's totally irrelevent at this point. We cant run around convicting people for crimes that haven't happened yet. We aren't pre-cogs. Hey! what if Obama tripped and fell on the launch button..?

I asked for an alternative as I am open to reasonable suggestions. You've provided nothing. It is a felony. That's what production and distribution of child porn is.

Conflating that to a lifetime as a sex offender and equivalent to adult sex offenders is a very different matter.

But go ahead, provide no solutions and be myopic by not considering the implications. That will certainly solve it.

[Muddy]

I asked for an alternative as I am open to reasonable suggestions. You've provided nothing. It is a felony. That's what production and distribution of child porn is.

Conflating that to a lifetime as a sex offender and equivalent to adult sex offenders is a very different matter.

But go ahead, provide no solutions and be myopic by not considering the implications. That will certainly solve it.

I dont have to provide a solution dude. I'm not running for office.. I can only try and manage what comes my way... I'm sure there are people out there that are paid to come up with reasonable solutions that have been better thought out. I cant devote my life to solving life's problems in a forum (which really doesn't matter other than people like you or I discussing matters like this) But the reality is right now that a felony conviction has long lasting teeth.. Far reaching beyond the initial charge.. You cant just throw them at kids that dont fully grasp the ramifications of what their ignorant YOLO bullshit actions may bring about. They are raging with new hormones, unseasoned, and have no life experience and frankly dont have a clue or care about repercussions at that age.. (Thats why its so easy to get them to do stupid shit).

[RBP]

I dont have to provide a solution dude. I'm not running for office.. I can only try and manage what comes my way... I'm sure there are people out there that are paid to come up with reasonable solutions that have been better thought out. I cant devote my life to solving life's problems in a forum (which really doesn't matter other than people like you or I discussing matters like this) But the reality is right now that a felony conviction has long lasting teeth.. Far reaching beyond the initial charge.. You cant just throw them at kids that dont fully grasp the ramifications of what their ignorant YOLO bullshit actions may bring about. They are raging with new hormones, unseasoned, and have no life experience and frankly dont have a clue or care about repercussions at that age.. (Thats why its so easy to get them to do stupid shit).

Some one has to. Or nothing changes.

[Muddy]

Some one has to. Or nothing changes.

So many issues, so little time. :)

[RBP]

So many issues, so little time. :)

So you come in with an opinion that the reaction is all fucked up, that the girl shouldn't be held criminally responsible, and reject the ideas of others. But when asked to provide a better solution, you say that's for others to decide? Interesting.

Let's coddle them. Make sure they aren't held responsible. After all they are just kids, right?

Affluenza Defense Lands Wealthy Teen in Rehab After He Kills 4 People in Drunk Driving Accident

A wealthy teen who killed four people in a Texas drunk driving accident will not go to jail after a judge ruled this week that instead, he must attend an expensive rehabilitation facility paid for by his parents. The driver was 16-year-old Ethan Couch. He was speeding, with a blood-alcohol level more than three times the legal limit. Couch has admitted to his crime, and in a case that went before a Texas judge, prosecutors sought a 20-year sentence. Instead, Couch was sentenced to 10 years’ probation after a psychologist claimed he had "affluenza," and testified that his cushy upbringing prevented him from connecting bad behavior with its consequences.

[Pony]

I'm getting damn close to locking this thread. Let's stop with the baiting and putting words in others mouths, OK?

[RBP]

That's cool, Pony. Use your judgement.

This isn't the old wild west of "serious discussion". I am of the opinion that this group is now small enough and gets along well enough that some latitude on the rare spirited debate is okay.

There are never hard feelings between Muddy and I.

But again, I trust your judgement on limits.

[Muddy]

Rainbow is always sending me inappropriate topless photos of himself on Instagram. I just pretend I don't know him..

[RBP]

Rainbow is always sending me inappropriate topless photos of himself on Instagram. I just pretend I don't know him..

So I suppose the return photos of your ejaculate on my chest is purely coincidental then. :hand:

[Muddy]

See how long tinypic hosts this..lol

http://i62.tinypic.com/2e2nr4y.jpg

[RBP]

Yeah and I'M over the line. right. :lmao:

[Muddy]

Just be thankful the gif doesnt work.. :d

[RBP]

oh jesus. praise be to allah.

[deebakes]

:wtf:

[redred]

Pony you should had locked the thread :shock:

[Pony]

:shock:


:lol:

[deebakes]

:lol: