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Teh One Who Knocks
02-13-2014, 01:07 PM
By DANICA KIRKA - The Associated Press


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LONDON (AP) — Scotland has been warned.

If it votes to leave the United Kingdom later this year, then it walks away from the pound.

That's the hard-line message presented Thursday by U.K. Treasury chief George Osborne, who ruled out a currency union in a speech in the Scottish capital of Edinburgh.

The pound, he insisted, would not be an asset divided up after a "messy divorce." The other major U.K. parties have supported that view.

"The pound isn't an asset to be divided up between the two countries after breakup as if it were a CD collection," he said. "The value of the pound doesn't lie in the paper and ink that's used to print it."

A key plank of the strategy presented by independence leaders is that Scotland would share the pound if they win the Sept. 18 referendum. But Osborne ruled that out, arguing that the value of the pound lies in the "entire monetary system underpinning it."

Why, he asked, should the remaining U.K. members — England, Wales and Northern Ireland — shoulder the risk of a currency union should Scotland vote to break away?

"If Scotland walks away from the U.K., it walks away from the U.K. pound," he said.

Osborne's remarks signal an intensification of the debate over independence and mark a contrast to the "love-bombing" approach of Prime Minister David Cameron.

Last week, Cameron made an impassioned appeal for Scotland to remain in the union that it's been a part of for over 300 years — a watershed moment that touched on history and shared glories. To stress that point, he made the speech at London's Olympic Park, where Britain enjoyed so much success and unity in staging the 2012 games.

While Cameron tried to tease out the emotional link, Osborne played to the pocketbook, reminding independence-minded Scots that without a currency union, they would have to face the markets alone to raise money in their new country. He even warned that one of the first things an independent Scotland would have to do is default on its debts.

Nicola Sturgeon, the deputy first minister for Scotland, told the BBC that such remarks amounted to "campaign rhetoric."

Hugh_Janus
02-13-2014, 07:13 PM
I don't see the problem TBH. The nationalist are moaning like bitches about this.... if they want to be independent, then fuck off.... they can't pick and choose what suits them best

Hal-9000
02-13-2014, 08:21 PM
Canada, Australia, USA ....all left the Queen Mothership and left the pound behind, we're ok

KevinD
02-13-2014, 08:54 PM
Do eet!

Goofy
02-13-2014, 08:55 PM
Scare tactics now, just show's they're desperate to keep us :lol: I actually think childish pish like this will encourage more Scots to vote yes......... it's certainly swaying me towards a yes vote :)

Hugh_Janus
02-13-2014, 09:28 PM
bye bye :lol:

Muddy
02-13-2014, 09:44 PM
I think the UK is much stronger as a united entity..

Jezter
02-13-2014, 09:47 PM
Canada, Australia, USA ....all left the Queen Mothership and left the pound behind, we're ok

CAN and AUS still have a teeny tiny bit of umbilical cord stuck due to the Commonwealth thingamajig.

Muddy
02-13-2014, 09:52 PM
CAN and AUS still have a teeny tiny bit of umbilical cord stuck due to the Commonwealth thingamajig.

Canada is like a tick on our ass..

redred
02-13-2014, 09:57 PM
Scare tactics now, just show's they're desperate to keep us :lol: I actually think childish pish like this will encourage more Scots to vote yes......... it's certainly swaying me towards a yes vote :)

good luck :lol: and remember not all the oil and gas in the north sea is yours , it will be split

Jezter
02-13-2014, 10:04 PM
Canada is like a tick on our ass..

I thought the tick's spot was reserved for Mexico. :P

Noilly Pratt
02-13-2014, 10:13 PM
Canada is like a tick on our ass..

If we're gonna generalize, other countries are like Canada's goofy big brother who gets in a barroom brawl every Saturday at 3am...and we know we're gonna get that phone call -- "dude, I need bail money / a lawyer / a favour, can you help me out?"

To the matter at hand...isn't Scotland, if they do become an independent country and still keep the old currency, akin to a divorcee demanding bedroom privileges after a marriage is annulled?

Hal-9000
02-13-2014, 10:21 PM
CAN and AUS still have a teeny tiny bit of umbilical cord stuck due to the Commonwealth thingamajig.

yes but we're discussing the monetary system change after we hit the road...much like the threat to Scotland in this story

when the Queen comes we say hi and we're polite...but as far as real laws or way of life, it's all ours baby

Hal-9000
02-13-2014, 10:21 PM
Canada is like a tick on our ass..

you have that backwards....LITTLE brother..

Goofy
02-13-2014, 10:29 PM
good luck :lol: and remember not all the oil and gas in the north sea is yours

Maybe....... but none of it's rightfully yours ;) If territories are split fairly (which we all know they won't be) then we'd have the vast majority of the oil.

Goofy
02-13-2014, 10:30 PM
The other good thing is, if we get independence and make a right cunt of it then at least the fucking immigrants will fuck off :mrgreen:

Hal-9000
02-13-2014, 10:31 PM
Maybe....... but none of it's rightfully yours ;) If territories are split fairly (which we all know they won't be) then we'd have the vast majority of the oil.

Ooooooh, maybe a war over mineral and resource ownership???? :face:


I wager 600 quatloos on Scotland

Muddy
02-13-2014, 10:32 PM
you have that backwards....LITTLE brother..

:x

Hal-9000
02-13-2014, 10:38 PM
If I can ever get 'the incident' expunged from my record (and Interpol)

Imma get a passport and come down there and kick all your bitchy lil asses :x

Lance, Porky, Pony, DGX then you. It will be called The hal Hits the States Tour

Muddy
02-13-2014, 10:39 PM
*calls the state dept*

Hal-9000
02-13-2014, 10:41 PM
I just want some of them grody little White Castle sliders..

Noilly Pratt
02-13-2014, 11:11 PM
I just want some of them grody little White Castle sliders..

And don't forget an In N Out burger. I've yet to have one of those 'Murican things.

Muddy
02-13-2014, 11:12 PM
Mexican murican..

Hal-9000
02-14-2014, 12:20 AM
And don't forget an In N Out burger. I've yet to have one of those 'Murican things.

:thumbsup:




and a Peptol Bismal stop :lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
02-14-2014, 11:35 AM
Scare tactics now, just show's they're desperate to keep us :lol: I actually think childish pish like this will encourage more Scots to vote yes......... it's certainly swaying me towards a yes vote :)

Do it!!!!! :x

http://i.imgur.com/VxmHaLn.jpg

Hal-9000
02-14-2014, 03:39 PM
Tuck in the pipes, don the kilts and march south on those hoity toity English bastards! :x


:scotland:

Teh One Who Knocks
02-14-2014, 03:40 PM
The new Scottish unit of currency: the Whisky :tup:

Hal-9000
02-14-2014, 03:46 PM
The new Scottish unit of currency: the Whisky :tup:

and it takes 5 haggis' to make change for a Whiskey

Teh One Who Knocks
02-14-2014, 03:49 PM
http://i.imgur.com/a5tZFIE.jpg

Teh One Who Knocks
02-14-2014, 05:05 PM
http://i.imgur.com/GOy4DPL.jpg

FBD
02-14-2014, 05:35 PM
means no pound :lol:

iotw, yall wont be responsible for the shitty things the country does to the pound any longer?

and whos to say you "cant use the pound"...people will still use it so long as they perceive it has value. plenty of commerce can still happen on the pound. you just get your state out of the fuckery at the center of it.

redred
02-14-2014, 05:57 PM
i think they will be forced into using the euro if they don't keep the £ , like i said good luck :tup:

Goofy
02-14-2014, 06:37 PM
I'm voting yes just because of this thread :tup:

Goofy
02-14-2014, 06:38 PM
Stick yer pound up yer fuckin' arse! :dance:

Hal-9000
02-14-2014, 06:51 PM
Stick yer pound up yer fuckin' arse! :dance:

*plays the pipes in support*

Goofy
02-14-2014, 06:54 PM
I think i might wear my kilt to the polling station on the day of the vote :lol: