Haye: I'll expose Wladimir Klitschko as 'fraud'

[Teh Sports Bot]

http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=6512807&campaign=rss&source=BOXINGHeadlines (http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=6512807&campaign=rss&source=BOXINGHeadlines&service=bit.ly&source=espn)WBA champion David Haye vowed to expose IBF and WBO titleholder Wladimir Klitschko as a "fraud" in their heavyweight unification bout on July 2.

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[Teh One Who Knocks]

This might be a good fight :-k

[Hal-9000]

Klitschko (55-3, 49 KOs)

I would walk away from that.....:lol:

[DemonGeminiX]

Well... Hayes has certainly given Klitschko a reason to train really hard.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Haye may have a point when you go down the list of who Klitschko has fought :-k

[redred]

i just hope hayes fist is as big as his mouth :lol: he sales a good fight not a big fan of him or the 2 brothers

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I've never thought that the Klitschko's were anything all that special. Just goes to show how awful the heavyweight division in boxing really is. :wha:

[redred]

. Just goes to show how awful the heavyweight division in boxing really is. :wha:

yes it's stale ,imo i think because it's been a few years since there has been a US title holder the famous las vegas/new york fight nights are missing, you guys were good at putting on a good show , but now that to 2 brothers don't like fighting anywhere but germany it's stuck in a rut and can't see it getting any better if haye beats them both as he has said he's stopping fighting at 31

[Hal-9000]

I'd be saying shit about Hayden..




:lol:

[redred]

give haye time :lol:

[Muddy]

I'd like to see this fight after viewing this thread..

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I'd like to see this fight after viewing this thread..

Unfortunately it will more than likely be on PPV :|

[redred]

Unfortunately it will more than likely be on PPV :|

what so we can all watch it on-line for free:-k :lol:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

what so we can all watch it on-line for free:-k :lol:

Yes, because with my 47" and 32" HDTV's in the house, what I really wanna do is watch this flight streaming with choppy audio/video on my 19" PC monitor :slap:

[DemonGeminiX]

I'd be saying shit about Hayden..




:lol:

If Haye is that stupid... seriously, that's when you turn a professional match into a street fight. I don't know about him, but I wouldn't want to get into a street fight with someone I pissed off that's twice my size.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

If Haye is that stupid... seriously, that's when you turn a professional match into a street fight. I don't know about him, but I wouldn't want to get into a street fight with someone I pissed off that's twice my size.

He's not that big :hand:

[DemonGeminiX]

He's not that big :hand:

He'll seem a whole lot bigger if Haye gives him a reason to fight like he has something to prove.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Rocky beat that Russian guy and he was HUGE compared to Rocky [-(

[DemonGeminiX]

Rocky beat that Russian guy and he was HUGE compared to Rocky [-(

:lol:

I vill break you.

[Hal-9000]

If Haye is that stupid... seriously, that's when you turn a professional match into a street fight. I don't know about him, but I wouldn't want to get into a street fight with someone I pissed off that's twice my size.

Not sure I agree...get a boxer angry and he forgets his training.Boxing is still a technical sport despite appearances.While a larger man has an advantage (reach and height) you can still beat someone if they stop defending themselves and they throw wildly.

I'd like to see the size difference between the two and the reach measurements

[Hal-9000]

not boxing but I beat a guy who was 6' 6'', he probably outweighed me by 50 pounds at least.I'm 6' even.

and I used an elbow :lol:

when it started I was sure he would pound me into next week because of his fat-fuck physique

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Not sure I agree...get a boxer angry and he forgets his training.Boxing is still a technical sport despite appearances.While a larger man has an advantage (reach and height) you can still beat someone if they stop defending themselves and they throw wildly.

I'd like to see the size difference between the two and the reach measurements

http://i.imgur.com/2minu.jpg

[Hal-9000]

So this is a homeboy vs a Russian?


oh boy I want to watch :lol:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

http://i.imgur.com/w6MHg.jpg

[Hal-9000]

I've never seen either guy box....we should make a pool and bet :cheerlead:

[Goofy]

Haye may have a point when you go down the list of who Klitschko has fought :-k

Wlad's fought no-one of value.......... Vitali is more dangerous imho but he's getting on a bit now. They were both scared to take on Valuev ffs


If Haye is that stupid... seriously, that's when you turn a professional match into a street fight. I don't know about him, but I wouldn't want to get into a street fight with someone I pissed off that's twice my size.

tbh, thats exactly what Haye wants - Wlad to drop his guard and start throwing punches like a madman, that way Haye can crack him on the chin and wave goodnight to him ;)

I seriously hope that Haye does KO this fucking boring robot, i'm sick to death of him and his brother's 'jab jab grab' snorefests........ boxing needs a good heavyweight who can actually move well and throw a hook now and again :)

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Good discussion in here, I'm gonna move it to the regular sports section and out of the RSS section :tup:

[Goofy]

Fight is gonna be on sky box office, costs £15......... i think i can stretch to that seeing as ive been waiting for years to see Wlad get chinned by a guy who can actually punch :tup:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Do you know much about Haye Goof? What happened in his one loss?

[Goofy]

I never actually saw the Thompson fight but apparently Haye's manager threw in the towel......... but that was nearly 10 years ago, he was young and inexperienced - blew himself out going for a knockout early on and emptied the tank.

Ive seen his last 8 fights (checked on boxrec to be sure :lol: ), he's got one-punch knockout power :tup: Since he moved up to heavyweight (was always struggling to make the cruiser limit) he looks better than ever.......... the power has got better, the chin seems a lot more solid yet he's still retained all his speed - thats the reason i think he'll KO Wlad, Wlad has never ever fought anyone with power AND speed

[Hal-9000]

Fight is gonna be on sky box office, costs £15......... i think i can stretch to that seeing as ive been waiting for years to see Wlad get chinned by a guy who can actually punch :tup:


record and upload for your pals? :)

[Hal-9000]

I never actually saw the Thompson fight but apparently Haye's manager threw in the towel......... but that was nearly 10 years ago, he was young and inexperienced - blew himself out going for a knockout early on and emptied the tank.

Ive seen his last 8 fights (checked on boxrec to be sure :lol: ), he's got one-punch knockout power :tup: Since he moved up to heavyweight (was always struggling to make the cruiser limit) he looks better than ever.......... the power has got better, the chin seems a lot more solid yet he's still retained all his speed - thats the reason i think he'll KO Wlad, Wlad has never ever fought anyone with power AND speed

the Russian sounds like a young Tyson...remember when Tyson was KO'ing everyone within 2 rounds early in his career? I said at that time, if anyone gets inside and actually knocks Mike, he'll go down.

Now I want to see Hayes crush the bigger guy :thumbsup:

[Goofy]

record and upload for your pals? :)

I could do........ but im sure others will beat me to it :lol: (can normally find the big fights online within 12 hours or less)


the Russian sounds like a young Tyson...remember when Tyson was KO'ing everyone within 2 rounds early in his career? I said at that time, if anyone gets inside and actually knocks Mike, he'll go down.

Now I want to see Hayes crush the bigger guy :thumbsup:

I think you're the first person ever to compare Wlad with Mike :lol: Tyson was a pure electric animal, everything that Wlad does is cold and calculated :)

[Goofy]

Found the Haye - Thompson fight


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9icQiE0scw

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Is this fight gonna be in Germany like all of Klitschko's fights? :wha:

[Goofy]

Is this fight gonna be in Germany like all of Klitschko's fights? :wha:

Yep, the Hamburg football arena.......... Germans are the only people who enjoy watching a Klitschko fight :tup: Think its gonna be live on HBO in the US if i remember correctly :-k

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Yep, the Hamburg football arena.......... Germans are the only people who enjoy watching a Klitschko fight :tup: Think its gonna be live on HBO in the US if i remember correctly :-k

HBO PPV probably....then it will be on regular HBO the following weekend

[DemonGeminiX]

You know, a little birdy told me that you can find atdhe mirrors ever since the feds got the dot net. If those mirrors are still up by the time the fight starts...

When's the fight again?

[Goofy]

2nd of July :)

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I just looked, it's not listed in upcoming PPV events yet

[Goofy]

HBO PPV probably....then it will be on regular HBO the following weekend

Just thinking, with it being live in Germany probably at 10pm (round about that normally for Klitschko fights) you could watch it at a bar thats showing it......... saturday afternoon USLance-time :tup:

[Goofy]

I just looked, it's not listed in upcoming PPV events yet

I'm sure they said HBO during the press conference today :)

[DemonGeminiX]

I wonder if Hayden will dump Klitschko if he loses?

:-k

[DemonGeminiX]

I've looked around and it looks like it's on regular plain ole HBO, not PPV.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I've looked around and it looks like it's on regular plain ole HBO, not PPV.

:faint:

[Muddy]

Wow....

[Hal-9000]

I could do........ but im sure others will beat me to it :lol: (can normally find the big fights online within 12 hours or less)



I think you're the first person ever to compare Wlad with Mike :lol: Tyson was a pure electric animal, everything that Wlad does is cold and calculated :)


Not the style, the record and reputation.Don't get me wrong, I loved the early Mike and would never step near a ring with him in it....

It's the rep of fighting lessthans to enhance a record.When Mike was with Cus D'Amato in the early days, his opponents weren't exactly world class.
Too bad Cus didn't stay onboard (and live) :(

[Hal-9000]

I've never seen either of these guys fight and now I want to see Hayes knock this guy down :cheerlead:

[Muddy]

Not me.. :mrgreen:

[DemonGeminiX]

I just don't like fighters with big mouths. This guy needs a lesson in humility.

[Hal-9000]

Not me.. :mrgreen:

You got paypal? .....

[Muddy]

Lets keep it small.

[Hal-9000]

I'm kidding Muddy, I rarely bet money on sporting events and even then, only in extreme cases where a guy is mouthing it up about his team or whatever...you're not that guy.

I do think we should make a mini thread with predictions shortly before the fight though, for fun.Who if anyone gets KO'ed, which round etc..

[Muddy]

Lets do $20 for fun.. You prolly have much better odds than me..

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I just don't like fighters with big mouths. This guy needs a lesson in humility.

Humility this



:slap:

[DemonGeminiX]

Humility this

:slap:

Hey!

:x

[Teh One Who Knocks]

:dance:

[Muddy]

Hal has gone to beat down those odds tables out there... :lol:

[DemonGeminiX]

:dance:

:fire:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

That was uncalled for [-(

[DemonGeminiX]

I disagree.

:nono:

[Hal-9000]

Hal has gone to beat down those odds tables out there... :lol:

I got a program running :lol:

I can't bet on something for money where the outcome is decided by someone else...I could bet on me kicking your ass in a hundred yard dash, because the outcome is in my hands..

besides..you know that 20 dollars is two day's wage for me..

[DemonGeminiX]

I got a program running :lol:

I can't bet on something for money where the outcome is decided by someone else...I could bet on me kicking your ass in a hundred yard dash, because the outcome is in my hands..

besides..you know that 20 dollars is two day's wage for me..

:lol: @ hundred yard dash. I bet your lungs would collapse at 15 yards.

And LMFAO @ two day's wage.

You crack me up, man.

:lol:

[Hal-9000]

:lol: @ hundred yard dash. I bet your lungs would collapse at 15 yards.

And LMFAO @ two day's wage.

You crack me up, man.

:lol:

I wouldn't laugh...I can still move very fast.I won't last a mile no, but I bet I could make a good showing against a non smoker in a 400 yard race...
last summer I shut a girl up who ran daily and commented on my age....

the wage thing is close...shut up :lol:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

http://i.imgur.com/IkSkL.jpg

[DemonGeminiX]

I wouldn't laugh...I can still move very fast.I won't last a mile no, but I bet I could make a good showing against a non smoker in a 400 yard race...
last summer I shut a girl up who ran daily and commented on my age....

:hand:

I bet you run like a girl, only slightly faster.

:P

[Teh One Who Knocks]

:burn:

[Hal-9000]

:hand:

I bet you run like a girl, only slightly faster.

:P

:x

Ask GF, he's here right now.We played Battlefield Vietnam online once together and when we were on the ground, my guy kicked his guy's ass :thumbsup:

[Hal-9000]

ok so I may have gotten into a jeep and ran him over, but the WINNING is still there :thumbsup:

[Muddy]

I got a program running :lol:

I can't bet on something for money where the outcome is decided by someone else...


Fair enough, let me know if you have a change of heart...

[Hal-9000]

I would gladly take your 20 bucks if it was in person :thumbsup:...no offense but I don't feel comfy giving out my paypal info to folks unless their name is www.sexymatureswithudders.com

[Teh One Who Knocks]

http://i.imgur.com/IkSkL.jpg

So Goof, is it worth betting on Haye? Those are some pretty good odds that will give a good payout if he wins :-k

[redred]

I wonder if Hayden will dump Klitschko if he loses?

:-k

http://tehbasement.com/showthread.php?5925-Hayden-Panettiere-Wladimir-Klitschko-Split-After-Two-Years&p=80587#post80587 why wait till after :lol:

[DemonGeminiX]

Damn, now he's gonna be all sad and mopey and get his ass kicked. Hayden, you bitch.

:lol:

[Arkady Renko]

Yep, the Hamburg football arena.......... Germans are the only people who enjoy watching a Klitschko fight :tup: Think its gonna be live on HBO in the US if i remember correctly :-k

I'm not, particularly since the fight will be shown on public TV, funded with my tax money...

[Goofy]

I just don't like fighters with big mouths. This guy needs a lesson in humility.

He only did that to get the fight signed, he's been pretty quiet since :)


So Goof, is it worth betting on Haye? Those are some pretty good odds that will give a good payout if he wins :-k

I fancy Haye to win by KO :tup: and i'm willing to put my own money on it :)


I'm not, particularly since the fight will be shown on public TV, funded with my tax money...

I thought RTL was a commercial station :-k

[Muddy]

You wanna do a $20 usd bet goofy over Paypal?

[Goofy]

You wanna do a $20 usd bet goofy over Paypal?

Sorry mate, the bookies over here are giving me 2/1 Haye, not even money :razz: I'll happily take the old 'fun' bet, loser wears the winners sig/av of choice for a week :)

[Hugh_Janus]

I hope haye lands that bomb of a right hand on klitscho's chin

[Teh One Who Knocks]

http://i.imgur.com/VT0Uz.jpg

These are the current odds at the online sportsbook where I have an account

[Goofy]

Strange way they do the odds....... i guess its decimal?

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Yeah, those odds are always confusing to me when they do them like that :wha:

[Muddy]

Sorry mate, the bookies over here are giving me 2/1 Haye, not even money :razz: I'll happily take the old 'fun' bet, loser wears the winners sig/av of choice for a week :)


Thats fine... if you win I'll give you $10 then... :lol:

[DemonGeminiX]

http://i.imgur.com/VT0Uz.jpg

These are the current odds at the online sportsbook where I have an account


Do I have to turn in my mancard for not knowing what the hell that means? Are they thinking that Haye is gonna win?

:huh:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

No, a + is an underdog....bet $100 on Haye to win $165 in this case. The - is the favorite...bet $195 to win $100

It's an archaic way to show the odds but that's how Vegas and the offshore casinos do it :wha:

[RBP]

http://i.imgur.com/qdOTt.jpg

[Teh One Who Knocks]

http://i.imgur.com/qdOTt.jpg

Did you know the answer? :-s

[RBP]

Did you know the answer? :-s

I used to bet sports a fair bit back in the days when I had money so yes.... :shifty:

... but I agree it's confusing. :-k

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Yeah, I dunno why they just don't go to standard odds

[RBP]

and a $30 juice feels high to me.

[DemonGeminiX]

No, a + is an underdog....bet $100 on Haye to win $165 in this case. The - is the favorite...bet $195 to win $100

It's an archaic way to show the odds but that's how Vegas and the offshore casinos do it :wha:

What's the point of betting on Klitschko then? It seems like you're only going to lose money if you bet on him and he wins... unless I'm reading you wrong.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

What's the point of betting on Klitschko then? It seems like you're only going to lose money if you bet on him and he wins... unless I'm reading you wrong.

No, you still win money as long as he wins, he's just a heavy favorite...almost 1 to 2 odds at the rate they have him listed.

[Hugh_Janus]

you get your stake back too

[DemonGeminiX]

you get your stake back too

Oh, ok... I was about to say, "Hold on a minute, dammit..."

:lol:

[RBP]

you get your stake back too

This. So you win $100 because it pays $295.

[Hugh_Janus]

yeah.... about your man card.... :lol:

[DemonGeminiX]

I've never done sports betting. I've never even thought about it before.

[Teh One Who Knocks]

I don't do it very often, but I might do it for this fight

Now I just have to find my login info for the online sportsbook :wha:

[Teh One Who Knocks]

Found it :dance:

I even still have $2.62 in my account :dance2:

[Arkady Renko]

I thought RTL was a commercial station :-k

it's a commercial station indeed, I forgot that RTL shows the Klitschkos foghts whereas the second public channel shows all those useless german guys...goes to show I have no clue about boxing...