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PorkChopSandwiches
05-11-2011, 04:10 PM
High pay and benefits for lifeguards in Newport Beach is the latest example of frustrating levels of compensation for public employees. More than half the city’s full-time lifeguards are paid a salary of over $100,000 and all but one of them collect more than $100,000 in total compensation including benefits.
When thinking about career options with high salaries, lifeguarding is probably not one of the first jobs to come to mind. But it apparently should. In one of Orange County’s most desirable beach destinations, Newport Beach, lifeguards are compensated all too well; especially compared with the county annual median household income of $71,735.
It might be time for a career change.
According to a city report on lifeguard pay for the calendar year 2010, of the 14 full-time lifeguards, 13 collected more than $120,000 in total compensation; one lifeguard collected $98,160.65. More than half the lifeguards collected more than $150,000 for 2010 with the two highest-paid collecting $211,451 and $203,481 in total compensation respectively. Even excluding benefits like health care and pension, more than half the lifeguards receive a total salary, including overtime pay, exceeding $100,000. And they also receive an annual allowance of $400 for “Sun Protection.” Many work four days a week, 10 hours a day.
Lifeguarding in Newport Beach is a pretty good gig, if you can get it.
There is no denying that lifeguards protect swimmers and play a vital safety role in protecting numerous beachgoers every year. In 2010, the total number of rescues by Newport Beach lifeguards was 2,190. Even so, these salaries seem too generous, and the compensation levels don’t appear fiscally sane.
Currently, Newport Beach has 13 full-time active lifeguards and hires about 210 seasonal and part-time “tower” guards, Newport Beach City Manager David Kiff told us. Lifeguards are organized as part of the fire department. The Lifeguard Management Association represents the 13 full-time, salaried employees in collective bargaining with the city whereas the Association of Newport Beach Ocean Lifeguards represents the part-time, seasonal lifeguards.
In a phone conversation, Brent Jacobsen, president of the Lifeguard Management Association, defended the lifeguard pay in Newport Beach: “We have negotiated very fair and very reasonable salaries in conjunction with comparable positions and other cities up and down the coast.” “Lifeguard salaries here are well within the norm of other city employees.” And therein is the problem: Local public worker pay has become all too generous and out of line with private sector equivalents.
On face, the compensation packages for these guards are staggering. But take into consideration the retirement benefits being paid to currently retired lifeguards and lifeguards who will retire at these pay levels in the future and the problem is further compounded. Lifeguards are able to retire with 90 percent of their salary, after only 30 years of work at as early as the age of 50.
A YouTube video created by Americans for Prosperity-California, an education advocacy organization concerned with limited government, lower taxation, and free-market principles, outlined how in Newport Beach a “recently retired lifeguard, age 51, receives a government retirement of over $108,000 per year for the rest of his life.” The video also notes that “He will make well over $3 million in retirement if he lives to age 80!”
The Newport Beach City Council – as well as other beach cities – ought to take a hard look at reforming the pay scale and compensation for lifeguards as well as the way in which the department is organized. This is a reasonable starting point for applying some fiscal sanity to public employee compensation.





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WTF!!!!

DemonGeminiX
05-11-2011, 04:12 PM
No way.

:|

PorkChopSandwiches
05-11-2011, 04:12 PM
How crazy is that?

Teh One Who Knocks
05-11-2011, 04:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyFvcDV3tjw

DemonGeminiX
05-11-2011, 04:16 PM
How crazy is that?

They better wrestle some Tiger Sharks and make it out with all their limbs intact to earn that $200K.

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Godfather
05-11-2011, 04:16 PM
Please... please tell me this isn't true :lol:

I would go and be a lifeguard on the beaches in the OC for nothing more than room and board for a summer :lol: Unbelievably hot women, beautiful weather... done deal

PorkChopSandwiches
05-11-2011, 04:30 PM
You dont get Hasselhoff and Pamela Anderson for chump change

DemonGeminiX
05-11-2011, 04:33 PM
You dont get Hasselhoff and Pamela Anderson for chump change

You do today.

:dance:

KevinD
05-11-2011, 04:37 PM
Umm, a bit of reality check here...Granted the pay scale seems high, but in that particular area, I don't think it is totally out of range. We aren't talking about your local swimming pool's lifeguards here. These are highly trained personnel, and in most likelihood have invested serious money in education.training in order to get the limited (13) jobs.
as for the pensions, for you younger folks, it wasn't that long ago that if you worked at almost any job for 30 years, you were entitled to a substantial percentage upon retirement. Personally, I wish things were still that way.

redred
05-11-2011, 04:41 PM
i can look good in speedo's for $100k :lol:

PorkChopSandwiches
05-11-2011, 04:54 PM
Umm, a bit of reality check here...Granted the pay scale seems high, but in that particular area, I don't think it is totally out of range. We aren't talking about your local swimming pool's lifeguards here. These are highly trained personnel, and in most likelihood have invested serious money in education.training in order to get the limited (13) jobs.
as for the pensions, for you younger folks, it wasn't that long ago that if you worked at almost any job for 30 years, you were entitled to a substantial percentage upon retirement. Personally, I wish things were still that way.

Highly trained :roll: They can swim, and know CPR. The requirements aren't that high and don't justify that kind of money.
http://www.calmis.ca.gov/file/occguide/lifeguar.htm

When CA is on the brink of bankruptcy, this is just one other thing that shows how good this state is at wasting money.


The OC Sheriffs, dont even make that kind of money, and they have to deal with people shooting at them

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=Orange_County_Sheriff's_Office/Hourly_Rate

Acid Trip
05-11-2011, 05:01 PM
Overpaid public sector employees?!?!?! Not possible :roll:

KevinD
05-11-2011, 05:11 PM
Highly trained :roll: They can swim, and know CPR. The requirements aren't that high and don't justify that kind of money.
http://www.calmis.ca.gov/file/occguide/lifeguar.htm

When CA is on the brink of bankruptcy, this is just one other thing that shows how good this state is at wasting money.


The OC Sheriffs, dont even make that kind of money, and they have to deal with people shooting at them

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=Orange_County_Sheriff's_Office/Hourly_Rate

Kinda playing the devil's advocate here, but (taken from your link) are YOU qualified to do any of this?


Some Beach Lifeguards are specialized and work as rescue boat crew members
patrolling assigned coastline areas and responding to reports of tired
swimmers, damaged or sinking boats, injured persons at sea and ditched or
crashed aircraft. Beach patrol Lifeguards drive a four-wheel drive vehicle
equipped for major emergencies such as beached boats or cliff accidents.
Beach Lifeguards also operate underwater recovery units, offer water safety
courses in sailing and surfing and provide youth educational services.

Granted, I don't know what the full time requirements are for a lifeguard in Newport Beach. But seeing as how there are only 13, again, doesn't seem all that much of a stretch to me, esp. since the city wants to cut that by 5.
Civil service, )police, fire dept, EMS, etc) are always one of the things folks want to cut funding for, but then complain when their property is stolen, their house burns down, etc, etc

Teh One Who Knocks
05-11-2011, 05:12 PM
i can look good in speedo's for $100k :lol:

:puke:

PorkChopSandwiches
05-11-2011, 05:19 PM
Lets break this down

Some Beach Lifeguards are specialized and work as rescue boat crew members patrolling assigned coastline areas and responding to reports of tired swimmers, damaged or sinking boats, injured persons at sea and ditched or crashed aircraft.

Beach patrol Lifeguards drive a four-wheel drive vehicle equipped for major emergencies such as beached boats or cliff accidents.

Beach Lifeguards also operate underwater recovery units, offer water safety courses in sailing and surfing and provide youth educational services.

C'mon, thats grasping at straws...they aren't the Coast Guard.

AntZ
05-11-2011, 05:22 PM
This shit has been going on all over California for years! From the City of Bell, to the staggering corruption at L.A.U.S.D. and on and on! The corrupt Gray Davis pushed through huge, locked in, union pay hikes for some state employees including prison guards that was way above the standard. Now, look at the debt problems the state faces! No one keeps an eye, and even when the whistle is blown, no one does anything about it. One thing is for sure, no one can dare cut that pay or force them into early retirement, then you'll see more bullshit scenes like what happened in Wisconsin.

FBD
05-11-2011, 05:51 PM
oh noooo the lifeguards might strike :lol:

redred
05-11-2011, 05:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Add_M-eau8U

sorry this thread needed background music :lol: