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Teh One Who Knocks
05-02-2014, 10:51 AM
By John Brandon - FOX News


Is it possible to pinpoint your location with nothing more than a cellphone number? Absolutely.

Your smartphone always knows where you are. And thanks to the Life360.com service, powered by technology from a company called Loc-Aid, a parent can locate a child by her phone number or even an elderly parent who has wandered away from home.

Indeed, network location services can save lives, protect children, and enable business services -- and they're available to anyone.

Thanks to a free online demo at Loc-Aid.com, you can type in the cellphone number of anyone in the U.S. and find their precise location in just a few seconds.

Agreements with wireless carriers like T-Mobile and Sprint let Loc-Aid triangulate position using cellular towers and the GPS signal on your phone. In urban areas, the results are more precise than rural areas where there are fewer cell towers.

Locaid adds security measures to keep the site safe: You have to type in your own birthday (to prevent minors from using the service) and the person you are trying to locate must agree to the location search by replying to a text message.

But after validating a phone, Locaid doesn't require the user to be involved. Banks and marketers can search for the location of someone who opts-in to the service at any time.

“App developers can use mobile network location for things like validating legitimate credit card purchases and detecting fraud ... or tracking assets like laptops or street-cleaners or dumpsters,” explained Carolyn Hodge, a spokeswoman for the Loc-Aid service.

Cybersecurity expert Jeanine Swatton says location tracking apps are extremely common. There is a "social-discovery” app called Banjo that helps you find friends based on their GPS coordinates. And Google Latitude provides a similar function. Each of these services are “opt-in” so you have to agree to share your location.

But is there a potential downside? Swatton says location tracking tools are used mostly for legitimate purposes, but warns that apps powered by Loc-Aid could be used for criminal activity -- if a hacker figured out how to bypass security precautions. For example, a hacker could set up a server that captures your location information after Locaid is disabled.

Rob Enderle, an analyst with Enderle Group, said new location-finding services can be abused (like any other service), but that does not mean they should be outlawed. Enderle advises people to be careful about how they use the tools and to disable features you do not need.

Locaid adds several safeguards to make sure its tools are tamper resistant. For example, once you find someone, the service turns off after 15 minutes to prevent someone from tracking you all day.

Dawn Benton, a spokesperson for AT&T, said it is impossible to use location finding services from cell tower triangulation or GPS unless the smartphone user specifically agrees to the search. And FoxNews.com found the text message that asks for consent to be clearly labeled and obvious.

Hodge says Locaid is not that different from other services like Twitter that allow you to share your location with every tweet. (Swatton says she advises people to disable these location features.) And Hodge says Locaid is staunchly in favor of individual privacy protections.

In the end, technology is agnostic, Enderle said, and a company that makes a new technology is rarely liable for how it is used.

Locaid offers only a demo of its location service, but it proves that technology is always advancing -- and so is our definition of privacy.

Goofy
05-02-2014, 11:55 AM
I already know my exact location :)

Pony
05-02-2014, 12:00 PM
I already know my exact location :)

We do too. You're at work.

PorkChopSandwiches
05-02-2014, 03:27 PM
Google used to have something like this Latitude I think it was, it was kinda cool. I could click on on of my friends and it would give me direction on how to get to them

Hal-9000
05-02-2014, 06:29 PM
good and bad with this....consent from the user, ok...but doing a credit card purchase and detecting the user of the phone to confirm? Stupid...I don't take my phone with me everywhere..


seems like once this door is opened, you'll never have privacy again...


I don't think my current Geritol-phone has a GPS locator in it :lol:

Goofy
05-02-2014, 06:52 PM
We do too. You're at work.

I was at home when i posted that :lol:

PorkChopSandwiches
05-02-2014, 07:46 PM
good and bad with this....consent from the user, ok...but doing a credit card purchase and detecting the user of the phone to confirm? Stupid...I don't take my phone with me everywhere..


seems like once this door is opened, you'll never have privacy again...


I don't think my current Geritol-phone has a GPS locator in it :lol:

They can still find you with triangulation

Hal-9000
05-02-2014, 08:46 PM
They can still find you with triangulation

no GPS chip and phone off? :-s

Hugh_Janus
05-02-2014, 09:00 PM
no GPS chip and phone off? :-s

:watching:

PorkChopSandwiches
05-02-2014, 09:01 PM
:watching:

PorkChopSandwiches
05-02-2014, 09:01 PM
:lol: Beat me to it

Hugh_Janus
05-02-2014, 09:04 PM
:dance:

Hugh_Janus
05-02-2014, 09:05 PM
:porky:

Hal-9000
05-02-2014, 09:14 PM
there is a reason I have hardlined everything, no wireless routers, no tablets, Ipads etc and an old phone that doesn't access the net..I plan on dropping off the grid soon and living in a log cabin

redred
05-02-2014, 09:53 PM
i really don't care who wants to watch me :shrug: compared to most my life ain't worth no ones time

Hal-9000
05-02-2014, 10:27 PM
I think GPS in general is a great idea...car breaks down, missing person with cell phone etc...


but getting tracked by a government entity or without your permission...that infringes too much on my rights

I'm the same way Red....really don't have much to hide or interesting behavior to view :lol:

Noilly Pratt
05-03-2014, 11:06 PM
no GPS chip and phone off? :-s

I have friends in surveillance and even if you turn off GPS, you can be tracked by the cell signal. Not exactly easy, but it can be done.

They know which cell tower sites (you get usually more than 1 in urban areas) you're getting your signal and by pinging your phone to see how far away you are from a given tower.

They can figure out pretty much where you are, and this was in the 80's when I last kept up with this.