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Teh One Who Knocks
05-22-2014, 10:46 AM
The Associated Press


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A House committee has approved a proposal that would end door-to-door mail delivery for millions of Americans in favor of communal or curbside boxes.

The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee approved the measure on an 18-13 party-line vote Wednesday. The bill would direct the U.S. Postal Service to convert 15 million addresses over the next decade to the less costly, but also less convenient delivery method.

Democrats objected to the plan, and efforts in recent years to win its adoption have failed.

"I think it's a lousy idea," Rep. Stephen Lynch, D-Mass., told the Associated Press. Other lawmakers said it wouldn't work in urban areas where there's no place on city streets to put banks of "cluster boxes" with separate compartments for each address. People with disabilities who have difficulty leaving their homes could get waivers, and people who still want delivery to their door could pay extra for it — something Lynch derided as "a delivery tax."

The committee's chairman, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., acknowledged that the measure is far from the comprehensive overhaul most officials agree is needed to solve the postal service's financial problems, but said it "provides an interim opportunity to achieve some significant cost savings."

Converting to communal or curbside delivery would save $2 billion annually, Issa said, quoting from estimates that door delivery costs $380 annually per address compared with $240 for curbside and $170 for centralized methods. He said less than 1 percent of all addresses nationwide would undergo a delivery change annually and that communal boxes offer a safe, locked location for packages, doing away with the need for carriers to leave packages on porches, making them subject to theft and bad weather.

The Postal Service reported a $1.9 billion loss for the first three months this year despite continued cost-cutting, a 2.3 percent rise in operating revenue and increased employee productivity. Package business has risen but the service continues to struggle with inflationary cost increases and a continued decline in first-class mailing as people move to the Internet for letter writing and bill paying.

Postal officials have asked repeatedly for comprehensive legislation giving them more control over personnel and benefit costs and more flexibility in pricing and products. Though various legislative proposals have been advanced, Congress has not been able to agree on a bill with broad changes.

"Lawmakers should fix what they broke, not break what's working," National Association of Letter Carriers President Fredric Rolando said, referring to a 2006 law that requires the Postal Service to prefund its retiree health benefits. Meeting that requirement accounts for the bulk of the postal service's red ink. He said the Oversight Committee's bill is "irresponsible ... bad for the American public, bad for businesses, bad for the economy and bad for the U.S. Postal Service."

The Postal Service has been moving to more centralized delivery for some new addresses but hasn't done much to convert existing addresses, Issa said.

RBP
05-22-2014, 10:51 AM
"Lawmakers should fix what they broke, not break what's working," National Association of Letter Carriers President Fredric Rolando said, referring to a 2006 law that requires the Postal Service to prefund its retiree health benefits. Meeting that requirement accounts for the bulk of the postal service's red ink. He said the Oversight Committee's bill is "irresponsible ... bad for the American public, bad for businesses, bad for the economy and bad for the U.S. Postal Service."

In this case the union guy is the smartest one in the room. From my understanding, he is absolutely correct.

FBD
05-22-2014, 11:46 AM
people talk about oh, the only problem is funding these promises....what promises and how far do they go, usually promises that break the bank are ones that should never have been made in the first place.

perrhaps
05-22-2014, 12:54 PM
If they fuck with my Saturday delivery it's war, I tell you.

RBP
05-22-2014, 02:53 PM
If they fuck with my Saturday delivery it's war, I tell you.

That should have been gone already.

Teh One Who Knocks
05-22-2014, 02:57 PM
That should have been gone already.

:+1:

perrhaps
05-22-2014, 03:13 PM
Screw y'all. Wait until you get old, and the highlight of your Saturdays is when the mail truck arrives with your CVS circular; Alex Trebek offering affordable life insurance with no physical exam required; Reader's Digest and Home Depot's paint sales.

PorkChopSandwiches
05-22-2014, 03:17 PM
:lol: They added Sunday delivery with USPS if you are getting an Amazon delivery.

From the sound of it, its stopping walking to your door to put mail in the box and having the end user get a mailbox at the street, big fucking deal, walk 10 feet perrhaps ;)

Teh One Who Knocks
05-22-2014, 03:23 PM
:lol: They added Sunday delivery with USPS if you are getting an Amazon delivery.

Yeah, but I'm sure there will be a heavy premium charge with it, just like getting something delivered by UPS on Saturday.

PorkChopSandwiches
05-22-2014, 03:30 PM
It doesnt cost me shit with Prime :dance:

Teh One Who Knocks
05-22-2014, 03:32 PM
For Sunday delivery? I have prime as well and I haven't seen an option for Sunday delivery.

FBD
05-22-2014, 03:38 PM
:lol: They added Sunday delivery with USPS if you are getting an Amazon delivery.

From the sound of it, its stopping walking to your door to put mail in the box and having the end user get a mailbox at the street, big fucking deal, walk 10 feet perrhaps ;)

gotta be a good 40 or 50 feet to the road from my door...think of the employees that get to walk around and put mail in the box on yer porch, its like a healthcare policy for them, all that walking :tup:

PorkChopSandwiches
05-22-2014, 03:43 PM
For Sunday delivery? I have prime as well and I haven't seen an option for Sunday delivery.

I guess they havent got to your area yet, it wasnt an option for me, just said it would deliver sunday

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2013/11/11/amazon-sunday-delivery-usps/3479055/

perrhaps
05-22-2014, 04:40 PM
:lol: They added Sunday delivery with USPS if you are getting an Amazon delivery.

From the sound of it, its stopping walking to your door to put mail in the box and having the end user get a mailbox at the street, big fucking deal, walk 10 feet perrhaps ;)

Our mailbox is @50 feet from my door. Still living 'round all them beaners?

Loser
05-22-2014, 07:08 PM
Who the fuck still gets mail? :-k

DemonGeminiX
05-22-2014, 07:22 PM
:-s

I do.

FBD
05-22-2014, 07:25 PM
fo real. bills for those that still send paper bills....and junk....and that is all.

Loser
05-22-2014, 07:26 PM
I never get anything but political and religious shit.

PorkChopSandwiches
05-22-2014, 07:40 PM
Our mailbox is @50 feet from my door. Still living 'round all them beaners?

They are the majority here now

perrhaps
05-22-2014, 08:17 PM
They are the majority here now

Here's a joke you might use as an icebreaker with them:

Q.What's two miles long, and travels at 2 mph?
A. A Mexican funeral procession with only one set of jumper cables.