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Teh One Who Knocks
05-16-2011, 05:30 PM
By MARTIN CRUTSINGER, AP Economics Writer


WASHINGTON – Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said Monday that he will immediately halt investments in two big government pension plans so the government can continue to borrow money.

Geithner informed Congress of his decision in a letter stating that the government had officially reached its $14.3 trillion borrowing limit. He repeated a warning that if lawmakers do not increase the borrowing limit by August 2, the government is at risk of an unprecedented default on its debt.

The debt limit is the amount of money the government can borrow to help finance its operations. The nation has reached its debt limit because the federal government has grown accustomed to borrowing massive amounts of money. The latest estimate is that it borrows 40 cents for every dollar it spends.

Republicans have said they will not vote to raise the borrowing limit until Congress and the White House agree on a plan to reduce the deficit through spending cuts. House Speaker John Boehner last week those cuts should be larger than any increase in the debt ceiling.

The deficit is the difference between what the government spends and what it takes in through taxes and other revenue. The Congressional Budget Office projects that this year's deficit will total $1.4 trillion. That's would nearly match 2009's record imbalance and mark the third straight year in which the federal deficit has exceeded $1 trillion.

Vice President Joe Biden is holding negotiations with lawmakers over the types of deficit-cutting measures that need to be approved to win congressional approval of a higher debt limit.

Even though the government has reached its official borrowing limit, Geithner said unexpected revenue and bookkeeping maneuvers will allow the Treasury to continue auctioning debt for another 11 weeks.

Geithner has suspended pension payments in the past when Congress has held off raising the debt limit. The money that the two pension funds will lose will be replaced when Congress votes to raise the borrowing limit.

PorkChopSandwiches
05-16-2011, 05:40 PM
We have almost made it, keep borrowing

FBD
05-16-2011, 08:44 PM
why dont they stop paying salaries too, then they can borrow even more!

Muddy
05-16-2011, 08:46 PM
Great idea.... Start with Congress...

Godfather
05-17-2011, 03:19 AM
Someone told me they saw a chart or some shit that paralleled the country's debt vs total US private wealth and it was hilarious how rich the US still is privately and how it just simply dwarfs the huge-sounding national debt :-k

Anyone able to find/verify/refute that claim? I did some googling but came up short...


Canada needs to pay more taxes too... cutting public spending will help but it's not enough.

Deepsepia
05-17-2011, 11:09 AM
Someone told me they saw a chart or some shit that paralleled the country's debt vs total US private wealth and it was hilarious how rich the US still is privately and how it just simply dwarfs the huge-sounding national debt :-k

Anyone able to find/verify/refute that claim? I did some googling but came up short...

Yes, the claim you're referring to is correct.

US Federal debt will reach $14 Trillion. Net worth of all US stock market holdings + real estate holdings is presently $55 Trillion or so.

What's particularly striking about looking at US net worth is the massive decline in 2007-2009, approximately $17 Trillion in net assets disappeared. This fact sits very much on the Keynesian side of the argument.

With the evaporation of so much household wealth, demand naturally fell, and will keep falling, and at the same time households and businesses began paying down debt and hording cash, which lead to further falls in demand.

Put another way, the fall in the value of US net worth from 2007 to 2009 is greater ($17 billion) than the present Federal debt ($12 Billion), and similarly dwarfs the size of the Stimulus and TARP packages. This is something that the "austerity now" argument misses-- if you look at the numbers, getting the economy going and producing wealth now is more important than cutting spending now, if your aim is to maximize national wealth.

Sources:
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/09/national-net-worthhousehold-value/ numbers there come from:
Bureau of Economic Analysis, Dept of Commerce
and
Federal Reserve