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Teh One Who Knocks
07-15-2014, 04:59 PM
FOX News


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A billionaire tech investor says he has enough backing to put on the ballot a plan to split California into six states.

Timothy Draper, a venture capitalist founder of a Silicon Valley-based venture capital firm that has invested in such tech companies as Twitter, HotMail, Skype and Tesla, told Reuters he has the 808,000 signatures needed on a petition to force the measure onto a public referendum in November 2016. Under the far-fetched plan, one state would be called "Silicon Valley" and would include the tech mecca, as well as San Francisco.

"California needs a reboot," Draper, who has spent $4.9 million of his own money on the effort, said in a press release. "Six Californias is our opportunity to solve the many problems we face today. ... Six states that are more representative and accountable. Six states that embrace innovation and strive to improve the lives of residents."

Draper's group plans to submit the signatures today, according to a Tweet.

A state dubbed "Jefferson" would include the northernmost portion; "South California" would be comprised of San Diego and eastern Los Angeles while the rest of L.A. would be called "West California." A province called "North California" would be built around Sacramento, and "Central California" would be made up of the central valley farm region, including Tulare and Fresno counties.

Silicon Valley would become the nation's richest state, while Central California would become its poorest, according to the nonpartisan Legislative Analyst's Office.

Critics call the plan kooky and note that such ideas have been floated in the past and never gone anywhere. According to FOX40, there have been about 220 efforts to divide California. All have failed.

"This is a colossal and divisive waste of time, energy and money that will hurt the California brand,” said Steven Maviglio, a Democratic political strategist who formed the group OneCalifornia to fight Draper’s plan. "It has zero chance of passage. But what it does is scare investment away... at a time when the governor is leading us to an economic comeback.”

Draper and other supporters plan to file the signatures with California Secretary of State Debra Bowen on Tuesday.

"It’s important because it will help us create a more responsive, more innovative and more local government, and that ultimately will end up being better for all of Californians," said Roger Salazar, a spokesman for the campaign. "The idea ... is to create six states with responsive local governments -- states that are more representative and accountable to their constituents."

Draper's group says the division would create a more business-friendly environment, solve the state’s water issues and ease traffic congestion.

Earlier this year, Bowen gave the go-ahead for activists to start gathering signatures for the initiative. Their deadline for submitting them was July 18.

Perhaps the biggest obstacle facing Draper's six-state scheme is that even if approved, it would be subject to passage by Congress.

"He's got a pretty high bar to pass," Corey Cook, director of the University of San Francisco's Leo T. McCarthy Center for Public Service and the Common Good, told the San Jose Mercury News. "There'll be a general skepticism of how dividing the state would improve it."

PorkChopSandwiches
07-15-2014, 05:15 PM
It may get on the ballot but has a much chance of passing as a secession

Teh One Who Knocks
07-15-2014, 05:16 PM
Would you vote for it?

PorkChopSandwiches
07-15-2014, 05:18 PM
Hell no, leave me in Mexico and remove all the cash from Silicon Valley.

Teh One Who Knocks
07-15-2014, 05:22 PM
:lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
07-15-2014, 05:22 PM
Move, dammit! :x

PorkChopSandwiches
07-15-2014, 05:26 PM
Im almost ready to just go buy a 100 acres and live off the grid :)

DemonGeminiX
07-15-2014, 05:36 PM
Can you keep plants alive? :-s

If you're living off of the grid, you'll have to learn to do some kind of food farming.

Loser
07-15-2014, 05:44 PM
IF this passed, no democrat would ever take the white house again. Ever...

FBD
07-15-2014, 05:45 PM
But what it does is scare investment away... at a time when the governor is leading us to an economic comeback.”

:rofl:


say what

PorkChopSandwiches
07-15-2014, 05:48 PM
Can you keep plants alive? :-s

If you're living off of the grid, you'll have to learn to do some kind of food farming.

I grew up on 4 acres raising all our own food :hippylife:

DemonGeminiX
07-15-2014, 05:55 PM
I grew up on 4 acres raising all our own food :hippylife:

I have a feeling you would feel right at home living the Prepper's life, however, based on what I know about you, I just can't see you doing it.

:lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
07-15-2014, 05:58 PM
IF this passed, no democrat would ever take the white house again. Ever...

I'm all for a revamping of the Electoral College.

FBD
07-15-2014, 06:02 PM
I'm all for repealing the 16th and 17th amendments

PorkChopSandwiches
07-15-2014, 06:06 PM
I have a feeling you would feel right at home living the Prepper's life, however, based on what I know about you, I just can't see you doing it.

:lol:

I wouldn't "enjoy" the life....at first. But, I could do it, and probably begin to enjoy it. I do like the entertainment available in So Cal. live music and such would be a bummer to miss

Hal-9000
07-15-2014, 06:22 PM
You asked Porky if he could do farming?



:rofl:


:weedmonster:

Hal-9000
07-15-2014, 06:22 PM
Where's the most southern part of the new state....Beaner-South?

Muddy
07-15-2014, 06:34 PM
The dems would never never never let this happen..

DemonGeminiX
07-15-2014, 06:40 PM
You asked Porky if he could do farming?



:rofl:


:weedmonster:

:hand:

Food farming. Keeping a pot plant hidden in your closet with a sun lamp trained on it for 24 hours per day doesn't count.

Hal-9000
07-15-2014, 06:46 PM
:hand:

herbiculture is herbiculture.....those guys that run large hydroponic and dirt farms have HUGE green thumbs when growing stuff..

FBD
07-15-2014, 06:56 PM
:lol: growing food is way easier than growing weed, you can do a lot more with it to make it good and robust - but with weed any additional stuff you add just makes it taste like shit when you smoke it. you cant just toss 10/10/10 on it and expect any reasonable outcome like you can with foodstuffz

PorkChopSandwiches
07-15-2014, 06:58 PM
I grow weed by Monsanto

Hal-9000
07-15-2014, 07:00 PM
I think they should break off a 7th part of the state, call it Porkywood and only allow acres of weed cultivation there.

A total cash crop state where the gov gets 10% of all proceeds from growing and sales.

Loser
07-15-2014, 07:41 PM
I grow weed by Monsanto

So it goes like this?

http://youtu.be/x9orD-iW120?t=1m6s

PorkChopSandwiches
07-15-2014, 07:50 PM
:lol:

Hal-9000
07-15-2014, 07:54 PM
:lol:

FBD
07-15-2014, 08:11 PM
:lol:

PorkChopSandwiches
07-15-2014, 08:19 PM
The claim is it's pretty much just an attempt to game the electoral college system. Separate the largely Democrat areas from the Republican areas, and they'll likely end up with more conservative votes in the college. But we know the truth