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Teh One Who Knocks
08-04-2014, 10:24 AM
Reporting by Roberta Rampton; Editing by Mohammad Zargham


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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama dismissed Russia as a nation that "doesn't make anything" and said in an interview with the Economist magazine that the West needs to be "pretty firm" with China as Beijing pushes to expand its role in the world economy.

Obama has tried to focus U.S. foreign policy on Asia, a response to China's economic and military might. But for months, that "pivot" has been overshadowed by a flurry of international crises, including Russia's support for separatists in eastern Ukraine.

Russia is the world's third-largest oil producer and second-largest natural gas producer. Europe relies heavily on Russian energy exports, complicating the West's response to the Ukraine crisis.

Obama downplayed Moscow's role in the world, dismissing President Vladimir Putin as a leader causing short-term trouble for political gain that will hurt Russia in the long term.

"I do think it's important to keep perspective. Russia doesn't make anything," Obama said in the interview.

"Immigrants aren't rushing to Moscow in search of opportunity. The life expectancy of the Russian male is around 60 years old. The population is shrinking," he said.

Obama told Putin last week that he believes Russia violated the 1988 Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces treaty designed to eliminate ground-launched cruise missiles.

Speaking of Russia's "regional challenges," Obama said in the interview: "We have to make sure that they don't escalate where suddenly nuclear weapons are back in the discussion of foreign policy."

Obama described U.S. tensions with China as "manageable."

China is engaged in territorial disputes with its neighbors in the oil-rich South China Sea, and frequently skirmishes with the West over intellectual property issues.

"One thing I will say about China, though, is you also have to be pretty firm with them, because they will push as hard as they can until they meet resistance," Obama told the Economist.

"They're not sentimental, and they are not interested in abstractions. And so simple appeals to international norms are insufficient," he said.

Obama said he believes trade tensions will ease when China shifts "from simply being the low-cost manufacturer of the world" and its companies begin making higher-value items that need intellectual property protections.

"There have to be mechanisms both to be tough with them when we think that they're breaching international norms, but also to show them the potential benefits over the long term," he said.

lost in melb.
08-04-2014, 12:27 PM
"One thing I will say about China, though, is you also have to be pretty firm with them, because they will push as hard as they can until they meet resistance," Obama told the Economist.

"They're not sentimental, and they are not interested in abstractions. And so simple appeals to international norms are insufficient," he said.

That is a reasonable comment. To hell with russia though

FBD
08-04-2014, 01:02 PM
Tensions will ease when there has been a revolution in america, when the usurers' lines have been erased from the constitution where they never should have been and the bankster's debt we've all been told we owe them is declared null and void, when the government no longer leans on the people to the point that it stifles the entire country.

Until then, the "US" aka the international coalition of the banking, will keep on making wars for resources around the world and implementing the 1984 police state solution and if they get it just right, will have Huxley's soma to start handing out too. The only way they're getting around the "other people's money" argument is the printing press and manipulated statistics, race baiting and LGBT rights for marrying gays and pet rocks, a million things that hide the evil things the people that run this joint do.

No point in going against the MSM juggernaut that's been instructed to make demons out of russia and china, no matter how well liked putin is (84% approval doesnt happen by propaganda alone) or what corrections Xi makes (its encouraging hearing stories from people that live there of them taking significant steps to get out the corruption that has been so rampant over there, at this point if Xi's guys find it, they are jailing motherfuckers no matter how rich or influential, and if that's where the family fortune came from, sorry folks, you'd better start thinking about what career path you want to take....)....so of course "putin is just amassing more of his fortune" and Xi is "eliminating competition for his seat on the high horse" and nevermind what the effects actually are in their respective countries.

Fucking news, disgusting tub of lies and filth.

perrhaps
08-04-2014, 01:33 PM
Tensions will ease when there has been a revolution in america, when the usurers' lines have been erased from the constitution where they never should have been and the bankster's debt we've all been told we owe them is declared null and void, when the government no longer leans on the people to the point that it stifles the entire country.

Until then, the "US" aka the international coalition of the banking, will keep on making wars for resources around the world and implementing the 1984 police state solution and if they get it just right, will have Huxley's soma to start handing out too. The only way they're getting around the "other people's money" argument is the printing press and manipulated statistics, race baiting and LGBT rights for marrying gays and pet rocks, a million things that hide the evil things the people that run this joint do.

No point in going against the MSM juggernaut that's been instructed to make demons out of russia and china, no matter how well liked putin is (84% approval doesnt happen by propaganda alone) or what corrections Xi makes (its encouraging hearing stories from people that live there of them taking significant steps to get out the corruption that has been so rampant over there, at this point if Xi's guys find it, they are jailing motherfuckers no matter how rich or influential, and if that's where the family fortune came from, sorry folks, you'd better start thinking about what career path you want to take....)....so of course "putin is just amassing more of his fortune" and Xi is "eliminating competition for his seat on the high horse" and nevermind what the effects actually are in their respective countries.

Fucking news, disgusting tub of lies and filth.


Don't be holding back, bro. Tell us how you really feel.

FBD
08-04-2014, 01:38 PM
I'm sick of seeing my friends struggle to get jobs, I'm sick of seeing places bombed, I'm sick of seeing every single statistic to come out of the government so ridiculously manipulated you have to take everything they say with a grain of salt...I'm sick of seeing local cops turn into paramilitary forces, I'm sick of seeing all levels of government bought out to the point where they cant even follow the law any longer...

none of this would be happening if our government wasnt bought out and handed a big blank checkbook and it was said, those feckin plebes will foot the bill

perrhaps
08-04-2014, 02:21 PM
I'm sick of seeing my friends struggle to get jobs, I'm sick of seeing places bombed, I'm sick of seeing every single statistic to come out of the government so ridiculously manipulated you have to take everything they say with a grain of salt...I'm sick of seeing local cops turn into paramilitary forces, I'm sick of seeing all levels of government bought out to the point where they cant even follow the law any longer...

none of this would be happening if our government wasnt bought out and handed a big blank checkbook and it was said, those feckin plebes will foot the bill

Well, I gotta admit that's a bit more intense than my fear that my Saturday mail delivery will be discontinued.