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FBD
09-22-2014, 07:45 PM
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2014/september/21/congress-votes-for-more-war-in-the-middle-east.aspx

Last week, the House and Senate voted to rubber stamp President Obama’s war plans for the Middle East. Both bodies, on a bipartisan basis, authorized the US to begin openly training and arming the rebels who have been fighting for three years to overthrow the Assad government in Syria.

Although the Syrian government has also been fighting ISIS and related extremist groups for three years, the US refuses to speak to the Syrians and has warned Assad not to interfere with the coming US attack on sovereign Syrian territory

President Obama promised that airstrikes alone would “degrade and destroy” ISIS, telling the US military in a speech last week that:

“The American forces that have been deployed to Iraq do not and will not have a combat mission… I will not commit you and the rest of our armed forces to fighting another ground war in Iraq.”

But of course any US troops sent into a war zone are “combat” troops. And more are on their way.

While the president was swearing that there would be no boots on the ground, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, was in open disagreement. General Dempsey told the Senate Armed Services Committee last week that US forces would need to embed with Iraqi or Kurdish troops in combat situations under certain circumstances.

The limited mission the president promised just weeks ago has already greatly escalated, and now threatens to become another major regional war. In reality, however, this is just a continuation of the 24 year US war on Iraq that President George Bush began in 1990 and candidate Obama promised to end as President.

Under last week’s authorization bill, the president would have authority to train 5,000 fighters in Saudi Arabia for insertion into the civil war in Syria. This is in effect a re-arrangement of the deck chairs. To this point the training was carried out by the CIA in Jordan and Turkey. Now, the program will be moved to the Pentagon and to Saudi Arabia.

The CIA training of the rebels thus far has resulted in a direct pipeline of weapons from “vetted moderates” to the al-Qaeda affiliated al-Nusra Front and to the very ISIS that the administration claims to be fighting. In July, a full brigade of 1,000 fighters from a US-backed rebel group joined ISIS! Of course they took their US-provided weapons and training with them, some of which will certainly be used against the rapidly increasing US military personnel in the region.

That Saudi Arabia is considered a suitable place to train Syria’s future leaders must be some kind of sick joke. While ISIS was beheading two American journalists – as horrific as that is – the repressive Saudi theocracy was beheading dozens of its own citizens, often for relatively minor or religious crimes.

If we want to stop radical terrorists from operating in Syria and Iraq, how about telling our ally Saudi Arabia to stop funding and training them? For that matter, how about the US government stops arming and training the various rebel groups in Syria and finally ends its 24 year US war on Iraq.

There are 200 million people bordering the countries where ISIS is currently operating. They are the ones facing the threat of ISIS activity and expansion. Let them fight their own war, rather than turning the US military into the mercenary army of wealthy Gulf states. Remember, they come over here because we are over there. So let’s not be over there any longer.

PorkChopSandwiches
09-22-2014, 07:53 PM
:facepalm:

Business is BOOMING

FBD
09-22-2014, 08:15 PM
yeah, a lot of people seem to have forgotten the contrivance that was the first expedition, it all starts with "saddam's tanks rolled in" and pays no mind to the precursor, what the kuwaitis were doing with horizontal drilling into their oil fields.

boomin business when you create an enemy fir yourself


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2014/09/CIA%20isis.jpg

PorkChopSandwiches
09-22-2014, 08:17 PM
If it didnt make some Americans a lot of money, we probably wouldn't waste our time doing it

FBD
09-22-2014, 08:55 PM
If it didnt make some international bankers and associated crony structure a lot of money, we probably wouldn't waste our time doing it

ftfy :tup:

Hal-9000
09-22-2014, 09:00 PM
If it didnt make some Americans a lot of money, we probably wouldn't waste our time doing it

Hasn't this been the story since the 70's though?

Muddy
09-22-2014, 11:47 PM
I thought dems hated war?

FBD
09-23-2014, 12:48 PM
Hasn't this been the story since the 70's though?
its the way its always been , whomever has power decides to go on a rampage, just with a whole shitload of other people's bodies doing the rampaging



I thought dems hated war?
:rofl:


(sure, when a republican president is in office)

Muddy
09-23-2014, 04:27 PM
Wheres that motha fugga deepsepia to debate this?

FBD
09-23-2014, 04:59 PM
call me crazy but I think Deep would be consistent and against this.