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Teh One Who Knocks
10-09-2014, 10:36 AM
By Jim Angle - FOX News


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More than a dozen states plan to cancel health care policies not in compliance with ObamaCare in the coming weeks, affecting thousands of people just before the midterm elections.

"It looks like several hundred thousand people across the country will receive notices in the coming days and weeks," said Jim Capretta of the Ethics and Public Policy Center.

The policies are being canceled because states that initially granted a reprieve at the request of President Obama are no longer willing to do so.

In coming weeks, 13 states and the District of Columbia plan to cancel such policies, which generally fall out of compliance with the Affordable Care Act because they don’t offer the level of coverage the law requires.

Virginia will be hardest hit, with 250,000 policies expected to be canceled.

And because federal law requires a 60-day notice of any plan changes, voters will be notified no later than November 1, right before the Nov. 4 midterms.

Many of those forced out of their current plans and into ObamaCare may not be able to keep their doctors. They also could face higher deductibles and out-of-pocket expenses, making ObamaCare an election issue on the eve of voting.

Obama had originally unequivocally promised that underhis health care plan, everyone could keep their doctors and plans.

In 2009, he told the American Medical Association, "If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period.If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period.No one will take it away. No matter what."

The president later was forced to admit that any plan without the additional benefits required under ObamaCare faced cancellation.

But that unleashed a nasty political backlash, forcing him to back down and call for states and insurers to extend those policies forthree more years.

Some said he didn’t have much choice. "There were some five or six million people who were at stake here and the federal exchange was in no condition to even process a few hundred thousand people much less millions," said Joe Antos of the American Enterprise Institute.

Many states flatly refused to extend and now comes the new round of states that plan to cancel policies.

PorkChopSandwiches
10-09-2014, 03:53 PM
Well at least it will happen before the elections so people can vote, dare I say better :shock:

I dont know if there's really a better

FBD
10-09-2014, 03:56 PM
but I want a policy that's incompatible with obamacare

PorkChopSandwiches
10-09-2014, 03:57 PM
I got to keep my plan at only a 30% increase and a bit less coverage then I had prior :tup:

Muddy
10-09-2014, 04:00 PM
If I keep my current family plan it jumps to $19,900 a year. True story.

FBD
10-09-2014, 04:01 PM
I covered my eyes.

fuck, its annual enrollment time, too. does that mean I have to go look.

:-k

fuck :sad2:

PorkChopSandwiches
10-09-2014, 04:29 PM
If I keep my current family plan it jumps to $19,900 a year. True story.

How much of an increase is that compared to what you paid last year?

Pony
10-09-2014, 04:30 PM
I got to keep my plan at only a 30% increase and a bit less coverage then I had prior :tup:

Yep, that's about where I am now as well. Exactly who is this "affordable" for?

PorkChopSandwiches
10-09-2014, 04:30 PM
Yep, that's about where I am now as well. Exactly who is this "affordable" for?

Everyone who didnt all ready have insurance

Pony
10-09-2014, 04:38 PM
Everyone who didnt all ready have insurance

If they are employed I don't think it's affordable for them either.

Those on welfare can now afford it now though! :tup:

Muddy
10-09-2014, 04:39 PM
How much of an increase is that compared to what you paid last year?

$6000.00 I think..?

FBD
10-09-2014, 04:42 PM
Yep, that's about where I am now as well. Exactly who is this "affordable" for?

the ones who wrote the bill, of course - the insurance companies

Pony
10-09-2014, 04:45 PM
$6000.00 I think..?

:shock:

Teh One Who Knocks
10-09-2014, 04:51 PM
Starting next year, the company is going to start making us pay a portion of our health insurance. Can't wait to see how much our coverage is going to go up while benefits get reduced as we should be getting our renewal paperwork anytime now :meh:

FBD
10-09-2014, 04:54 PM
Cmon Jes, graduate college already! :lol:

I'm just happy he'll be 21 next year and can finally come see my bands play, since damn near every show is at a bar :lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
10-09-2014, 04:59 PM
Yep, that's about where I am now as well. Exactly who is this "affordable" for?


Everyone who didnt all ready have insurance


If they are employed I don't think it's affordable for them either.

Those on welfare can now afford it now though! :tup:

Before my g/f changed jobs, she didn't have health insurance, so I was helping look thru the Obamacare plans, and they were all shit. Unless you could afford the super high dollar plans, you might as well just have gone without insurance. All the ones that were "affordable" (if you call between $250 and $350/month affordable) had high co-pays and HUGE out of pocket/deductible expenses. For her and her kid, at $250/month, she would have had $50 co-pays with $12,500 out of pocket expenses before the insurance would have covered ANYTHING.

PorkChopSandwiches
10-09-2014, 05:12 PM
$6000.00 I think..?

Ouch

PorkChopSandwiches
10-09-2014, 05:14 PM
Before my g/f changed jobs, she didn't have health insurance, so I was helping look thru the Obamacare plans, and they were all shit. Unless you could afford the super high dollar plans, you might as well just have gone without insurance. All the ones that were "affordable" (if you call between $250 and $350/month affordable) had high co-pays and HUGE out of pocket/deductible expenses. For her and her kid, at $250/month, she would have had $50 co-pays with $12,500 out of pocket expenses before the insurance would have covered ANYTHING.

Yeah its a complete joke.
We currently have to cover a percentage of the cost through my work and. After 5/10/20 years the percentage is less. Except they keep raising the premiums so they dont ever seem to go down, just up

Muddy
10-09-2014, 05:54 PM
Before my g/f changed jobs, she didn't have health insurance, so I was helping look thru the Obamacare plans, and they were all shit. Unless you could afford the super high dollar plans, you might as well just have gone without insurance. All the ones that were "affordable" (if you call between $250 and $350/month affordable) had high co-pays and HUGE out of pocket/deductible expenses. For her and her kid, at $250/month, she would have had $50 co-pays with $12,500 out of pocket expenses before the insurance would have covered ANYTHING.

$1659.30 a month. Right here.

Teh One Who Knocks
10-09-2014, 06:00 PM
$1659.30 a month. Right here.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess you make more than the $15/hour my g/f was making at her last job when she going to be forced to buy Obamacare. And I also am going to bet that you don't have $12500 OOP expenses before your insurance covers anything.

Muddy
10-09-2014, 06:10 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess you make more than the $15/hour my g/f was making at her last job when she going to be forced to buy Obamacare. And I also am going to bet that you don't have $12500 OOP expenses before your insurance covers anything.

No, it's for a premium plan, less than $3000 oop. $25.00 co-pay primary care, $50 co-pay specialist. Really though.. Yes I do make more than $15 an hour, but I also can't afford that... It's just too much.. I am probably going to shop down into one of the not so nice plans.. That will be $1378.50 a month. With my work picking up between 5-600 of that..

FBD
10-09-2014, 06:17 PM
I still plan on getting a catastrophic only plan as soon as possible :D

Muddy
10-09-2014, 06:20 PM
I still plan on getting a catastrophic only plan as soon as possible :D

I hear you, but for us.. You choose what is offered.. Anddddd, because your work currently offers a plan you cant just dump it and get Obama care. This is what I cant get the liberals over at NPR to understand when we debate it online... All they want to do is say how ignorant I am and how I am getting screwed because of that. :lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
10-09-2014, 06:22 PM
I still plan on getting a catastrophic only plan as soon as possible :D

That doesn't satisfy the requirements under Obamacare, you will have to pay the fine if that is the only policy you have.

FBD
10-09-2014, 06:24 PM
Anyone with half a brain knew o'care was a fuckjob from the start, it was written to cover the insurance companies expenses and set the price distortions in stone. Anyone else that believed all the skittle shitting unicorn equivalent text, fuck, its like someone sitting there imagining what they'll do with all that lottery money....once they actually fuggin win it.

FBD
10-09-2014, 06:24 PM
That doesn't satisfy the requirements under Obamacare, you will have to pay the fine if that is the only policy you have.

I said that on purpose ;)