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PorkChopSandwiches
10-13-2014, 04:13 PM
By Sebastian Anthony on October 9, 2014 at 10:53 am1131 Comments
E-cat cold fusion/LENR device


Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat — the device that purports to use cold fusion to generate massive amounts of cheap, green energy – has been verified by third-party researchers, according to a new 54-page report. The researchers observed a small E-Cat over 32 days, where it produced net energy of 1.5 megawatt-hours, or “far more than can be obtained from any known chemical sources in the small reactor volume.” The researchers were also allowed to analyze the fuel before and after the 32-day run, noting that the isotopes in the spent fuel could only have been obtained by “nuclear reactions” — a conclusion that boggles the researchers: “… It is of course very hard to comprehend how these fusion processes can take place in the fuel compound at low energies.”

This new report [PDF (http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/LuganoReportSubmit.pdf)] on the E-Cat was carried out by six (reputable) researchers from Italy and Sweden. While the new E-Cat looks very different from previous iterations, the researchers say that it uses the same “hydrogen-loaded nickel” and additives (most notably lithium) as a fuel. The device’s inventor, Andrea Rossi, claims that the E-Cat uses cold fusion — low-energy nuclear reactions, LENR — to fuse nickel and hydrogen atoms into copper, releasing oodles of energy. The researchers, analyzing the fuel before and after the 32-day burn, note that there is an isotope shift from a “natural” mix of Nickel-58/Nickel-60 to almost entirely Nickel-62 — a reaction that, the researchers say, cannot occur without nuclear reactions (i.e. fusion). The researchers say there is just 1 gram of fuel inside the E-Cat. For more info about the science/chemistry behind LENR, read our previous story about Rossi’s E-Cat.


The researchers are very careful about not actually saying that cold fusion/LENR is the source of the E-Cat’s energy, instead merely saying that an “unknown reaction” is at work. In serious scientific circles, LENR is still a bit of a joke/taboo topic. The paper is actually somewhat comical in this regard: The researchers really try to work out how the E-Cat produces so much darn energy — and they conclude that fusion is the only answer — but then they reel it all back in by adding: “The reaction speculation above should only be considered as an example of reasoning and not a serious conjecture.”

Anyway, now that we’ve got the necessary cynicism/scrutiny out of the way, let’s get down to what everyone’s really interested in: The utterly insane amounts of energy produced by the E-Cat. In the table below you can see some figures from the 32-day test. The most important figures are on the right hand side: a COP (coefficient of performance) of up to 3.74, and net power production of 2,373 watts. Remember that this is a small device that produced these kinds of figures for 32 days straight. Total energy obtained over 32 days was 1.5 MWh.


http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/e-cat-input-power-output-power.jpg

E-Cat power input vs. output

To put this into perspective, the E-Cat tested by the researchers has an energy density of 1.6×109 Wh/kg and power density of 2.1×106 W/kg. This is orders (plural) of magnitude higher than anything else ever tested — somewhere in the region of 100 times more power than the best supercapacitors, and maybe a million times more energy than gasoline. In the words of the researchers, “These values place the E-Cat beyond any other known conventional source of energy.”


E-Cat Home Unit cold fusion

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/E.Cat5_-1030x858.jpg

This is what a commercialized E-Cat will apparently look like, when Rossi finally gets around to changing the world.
Obviously, if these third-party findings are to be believed — if the E-Cat really is performing cold fusion — then this is rather exciting. We are talking about an extremely cheap, green, and dense power source that could quite literally change the world.

Before the world can be changed, however, there will now be a very extensive period of scrutiny from the scientific community at large. The previous third-party analysis of the E-Cat device, published in March 2013, was attacked and debunked very rapidly. It seems this new report has been intentionally designed so that there are fewer plot holes and logical leaps. The research paper has reportedly been submitted to the Arxiv pre-print server, with the hope of eventually being published in the Journal of Nuclear Physics.

The next few weeks could be very interesting indeed. According to one report at Sifferkoll, a big bank downloaded the new E-Cat report just minutes after it was made available online — and “oil futures have stayed volatile since.” And of course this morning Glasgow University announced that it would be selling its fossil fuel investments. Hmm…

FBD
10-13-2014, 04:44 PM
But if cheap power becomes ubiquitous, how will the slaves not break free from their chains? :hand: We must destroy this product as soon as possible and say fusion is a pipe dream and the results were falsified.

PorkChopSandwiches
10-13-2014, 04:49 PM
Yeah, they wouldnt want this to get out

Goofy
10-13-2014, 04:51 PM
I can't be bothered reading this.......... if it's something to do with a Delorean and Back To The Future i'll have a read :thumbsup:

Teh One Who Knocks
10-13-2014, 04:54 PM
I bet they unveil their new perpetual motion machine next :thumbsup:

Goofy
10-13-2014, 05:10 PM
Great Scot!

http://i.imgur.com/JfHx7hS.png

Hal-9000
10-13-2014, 07:15 PM
You never want scientists to write this line with such an important discovery - The researchers are very careful about not actually saying that cold fusion/LENR is the source of the E-Cat’s energy, instead merely saying that an “unknown reaction” is at work.


if it is real, all FBD kidding aside....this science will vanish faster than Richard Simmons' dick at a body building competition

FBD
10-13-2014, 08:03 PM
One of my physics blogs guys really hates Rossi :lol: and basically says he's a pos fraud

http://motls.blogspot.com/2014/10/cold-fusion-science-which-is-not-science.html

PorkChopSandwiches
10-13-2014, 08:11 PM
One of my physics blogs guys really hates Rossi :lol: and basically says he's a pos fraud

http://motls.blogspot.com/2014/10/cold-fusion-science-which-is-not-science.html

I started looking into him, sounds like he is a scammer

FBD
10-13-2014, 08:32 PM
that's one thing I like about Lubos Motyl, he calls it as he sees it and doesnt give a shit. some people say he's an asshole for that reason...but I dont see calling a spade a spade as automatic asshole territory.


Some of the previous blog posts were dedicated to the absurdity of the physical claims – about the possibility to ignite reactions at "room temperature" even though basic calculations imply that these reactions need tens of millions of kelvins to run (to overcome the Coulomb i.e. electrostatic potential energy barrier between the nuclei).


Once again, Tommaso Rodigo posted a text promoting the "independent test". It's of course not independent at all – almost all these men have been Rossi's pals for years and Rossi himself was allowed to execute some of the key procedures of this "independent test".


The new pro-Rossi report also contains some analysis of the isotopic composition that says that over 90% of lithium was lithium-7 at the beginning, but it was below 10% of lithium-7 after the reaction. That's despite the fact that they claim that the output was almost constant over time and they stopped it at a pretty much arbitrary moment. All these claims are ludicrous, of course. If the percentage of the usable fuel dropped that much, they would have to see a huge slowdown of the reaction.


There are very many requirements that are so essential that if one of them isn't obeyed or under full control, the piece of "scientific work" is almost guaranteed to be worthless noise.

Muddy
10-13-2014, 09:46 PM
Great story, Porky.. im with the crowd that says the oil company illuminati will never let this see fruition..

Loser
10-13-2014, 11:22 PM
I've been following this thing for a while now, and while it seems to pump out 3 to 4 times as much energy it consumes, I'm not going to put that thing anywhere near my house.

Why?

It runs at 1400 degrees celsius!.... :shock: