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Teh One Who Knocks
10-28-2014, 02:25 PM
Clyde Wayne Crews Jr. - Forbes



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyUoCiWsTfI

Hillary Clinton’s October 24 speech supporting Martha Coakley, the Massachusetts Democratic gubernatorial candidate, covered standard progressive themes urging a larger state, as well as this attention-grabbing remark:


Don’t let anybody, don’t let anybody tell you that, ah, you know, it’s corporations and businesses that create jobs. You know that old theory, trickle-down economics. That has been tried, that has failed. It has failed rather spectacularly

The New York Times didn’t see anything alarming in the statement, calling it a “variation on a popular [Elizabeth] Warren theme.”

But this attitude shocked many people in the trenches, those pulling the economic wagon, those looking for work. The condescension in the way Clinton articulated it was noteworthy also, and the blogosphere lit up brightly.

Most people who hold jobs or are looking for work do so at, you know, businesses, which, as it happens, are often incorporated. People were not amused.

Naturally it’s being said that Clinton’s statement was taken out of context, that she was talking about corporate tax breaks or something. Perhaps she was referring to her speaking bureau or to Chelsea’s former employer NBC News? Perhaps those corporations and businesses aren’t creating jobs, and that’s her reference point.

Policies that flow from disdain for private enterprise will likely advance a “trickle down” federal government, and, unfortunately, trickle up poverty, if that term is going to be dredged up again.

A Google search of “‘Hillary Clinton’ business jobs” is kind of funny, in that most of the initial hits were from right of center venues. This reflects the New York Times-style attitude that there was nothing to see here, the other worldly viewpoint that sees business and enterprise as an aberration, a wart, and that the normal and preferred is–what? The eeriness echoes President Obama’s “You didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen,” which enjoyed renewed attention this week in the wake of Clinton’s remark.

The only way that the un-self conscious utterance of a statement like Clinton’s makes much sense to an outside observer who has to earn a living is to use Occam’s Razor. It’s easiest to acknowledge that a sizable chunk of the left wing does not care much for free private enterprise and actually does prefer that the state be in charge of lives. They really mean what they say.

They demonstrate it–even when we are reluctant to admit the broad implications–by developing proposals to take over major economic sectors, such as Hillary Care, and the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

When it comes to creating jobs, regulation may have lapped spending as the most important drag and weight on the economy, and policymakers of both parties seem not to care.

Reports have documented the regulatory pressure on full-time employment, such as the phenomenon of new jobs created in the wake of Obamacare offering less than 40 hours per week. Such destabilization paves the way for single-payer health care, the goal of part of the left.

With “pen and phone” and shovel-ready stimulus, government-driven infrastructure and science, compulsory green energy, a “kill-switch” for the Internet and net neutrality besides, our leaders really do believe in government management of the economy, even though governments can’t even efficiently produce paper clips.

Recognizing that certain deeply committed progressives do not support large-scale private free enterprise and do want the government to manage, control and oversee sector after sector of the economy, is the real context for appreciating a statement like “Don’t let anybody tell you that it’s corporations and businesses that create jobs.”

There’s no need for spin that revolves much further than that, although there’ll be plenty this week, and again in the next presidential campaign cycle when the Clinton video gets new airplay.

Interestingly, if Clinton were to be making this statement in the world she ostensibly desires, perhaps it indeed would not be businesses and corporations who provide jobs; we’d all be in thrall to the state.

Maybe that was a time traveler from the future on stage Friday, describing personal experience. If the speech were longer, she probably would have allowed that she had sworn off corporate boards and speaking fees and Gulfstreams permanently.

FBD
10-28-2014, 02:28 PM
Anyone considering voting for Hillary should read about the trail of guns, drugs, corruption, and dead bodies in the wake of the clintons.


I dont understand how anyone can say that a business does not create jobs with a straight face. But then again, hitlery has plenty of experiencing lying in front of cameras, under oath, you name it.

perrhaps
10-28-2014, 02:33 PM
Are her portly pantsuits made in America?

Muddy
10-28-2014, 02:51 PM
Thank you comrade, Hillary.

RBP
10-28-2014, 03:16 PM
The "what she meant was" backpedaling has been just as ridiculous.

DemonGeminiX
10-28-2014, 03:18 PM
Women won't care, they'll vote for her anyway, because she's a woman, and women can always do the job better than men.

FBD
10-28-2014, 03:32 PM
of course, the tv will tell them so

PorkChopSandwiches
10-28-2014, 04:07 PM
Women won't care, they'll vote for her anyway, because she's a woman, and women can always do the job better than men.

:hand: My wife will vote for who I tell he too :lol:

FBD
10-28-2014, 04:21 PM
:lol:

PorkChopSandwiches
10-28-2014, 04:26 PM
:dance:


I do sit down and go over the ballot with her every vote. We discuss the pros/cons of the props. She negated my vote on a couple issues last year :lol:

FBD
10-28-2014, 06:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUSRZo1BE5o

PorkChopSandwiches
10-28-2014, 06:57 PM
:tup:

You know you're fucked when the blacks are against you

FBD
10-28-2014, 07:03 PM
:lol: Sorry hitlery

Teh One Who Knocks
10-30-2014, 10:49 AM
FOX News


Hillary Clinton would like a do-over.

The former secretary of State is trying to pull back on controversial remarks last week where she suggested businesses don't create jobs -- she now says she "short-handed" her point, though some Republicans aren't buying it.

Clinton, the presumed Democratic front-runner should she enter the 2016 White House race, made the remarks last week at a political rally in Massachusetts, sparking questions about whether the former senator and first lady was radically changing her economic message.

“Don’t let anybody tell you that, you know, it's corporations and businesses that create jobs,” Clinton said at a rally on Friday in Boston for Martha Coakley, the Democratic nominee for governor. Also in attendance was liberal Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

On Monday, though, Clinton explained she had “short-handed this point the other day.”

“Let me be absolutely clear about what I’ve been saying for a couple of decades,” she said at political rally in upstate New York. “Our economy grows when businesses and entrepreneurs create good-paying jobs here in America and workers and families are empowered to build from the bottom up and the middle out -- not when we hand out tax breaks for corporations that outsource jobs or stash their profits overseas.”

However, Washington Republicans were not convinced.

“What Hillary did when saying small businesses and corporations don’t create jobs wasn’t shorthand, it was something she wishes she hadn’t said,” Republican National Committee spokeswoman Kirsten Kukowski said. “That’s a gaffe.”

Political analysts also have speculated about whether Clinton was trying to channel the anti-Wall Street message that is being put forth by Warren and is popular within the populist wing of the Democratic Party -- a wing that is encouraging the first-term senator to make a 2016 presidential run.

However, a Clinton aide told Politico that Clinton’s original remarks made so little sense that clearly she left out some words.

FBD
10-30-2014, 12:13 PM
clearly she didnt, its the exact same shit Warren says.

and wake the fk up, you cant be both "against the big banks" and be totally ok with the federal reserve at the same time, bitch

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/10-overflow/20141029_hillary_0.jpg

FBD
10-30-2014, 01:22 PM
“Well, Hillary is a corporatist and a militarist,” Mr. Nader said, Raw Story reported. “Do we want another corporatist and militarist? She thinks Obama is too weak. He doesn’t kill enough people overseas. So she’s a menace to the United States of America.”

“What we need is people — regardless of whether they are libertarians or not — that pull back on the empire and make Wall Street subordinate to Main Street,” Mr. Nader said, Raw Story reported. “People have got to start thinking, doing their homework, become informed voters and not coronet another corporatist and militarist.’

Muddy
10-30-2014, 01:25 PM
So whats the answer?

FBD
10-30-2014, 01:34 PM
http://theblacksphere.net/2013/10/47-bodies-left-in-the-wake-of-hillary-clinton-part-i/




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLnZwwYlYP0

FBD
10-30-2014, 01:35 PM
So whats the answer?
start executing actual treasonous traitors like them?

I mean, we can try voting for...not a statist corporatist shill, but good luck even having one on the ballot.

FBD
10-30-2014, 01:43 PM
When the investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation – one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman’s 17-year career.

Why?

“Because she was a liar,” Zeifman said in an interview last week. “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”

http://patdollard.com/2013/05/flashback-hillary-clinton-fired-from-watergate-investigation-for-lying-unethical-behavior-conspiracy-to-violate-the-constitution/

Muddy
10-30-2014, 01:49 PM
start executing actual treasonous traitors like them?

I mean, we can try voting for...not a statist corporatist shill, but good luck even having one on the ballot.

Ok, but back on planet Earth where radical measures are never realistically going to be implemented in the US, What is the answer?

FBD
10-30-2014, 01:52 PM
honest reporting and an impartial real Press free from having their stories dictated by a handful of people

then everyone will know all of these gory details about slimy evil motherfuckers, so they dont rise to positions of high power.

Teh One Who Knocks
10-30-2014, 02:05 PM
So whats the answer?

More government spending :tup:

PorkChopSandwiches
10-30-2014, 02:06 PM
:rofl:

FBD
10-30-2014, 02:14 PM
and occupying forces in as many countries that border russia as possible :tup:

and while we're at it, occupy as many resource rich lands in africa as possible,

get that pipeline through syria for israel

more false flags at home so the populace can be sufficiently controlled once its revealed how much a dollar is truly worth now, pandemic or blowing stuff up, whatever

let go of the petrodollar and crash the finance of natural gas expansion, then buy up excess at pennies on the dollar

keep gold suppressed until around that time where the petrodollar is done, once the facade is removed and its worthless, gold will make that turn all by itself

consolidation just about complete

Muddy
10-30-2014, 02:28 PM
honest reporting and an impartial real Press free from having their stories dictated by a handful of people

then everyone will know all of these gory details about slimy evil motherfuckers, so they dont rise to positions of high power.

I totally agree with this.. But sadly, it's just not realistic these days.. It's like the Hunger Games with the fucking media...

Teh One Who Knocks
10-30-2014, 02:36 PM
I totally agree with this.. But sadly, it's just not realistic these days.. It's like the Hunger Games with the fucking media...

There's enough information out there that shows how bad a lot of these politicians are, but people don't seem to care. Sad when you think about it.

FBD
10-30-2014, 02:40 PM
hence all the info in this thread and you still have millions of absolute morons that are willing to vote for her because of her vagina, other millions that believed her when she spoke of some vast right wing conspiracy.


there's some vast conspiracy abound, for damned sure, and you're part of it, hitlery.

Teh One Who Knocks
10-30-2014, 02:47 PM
A start in the right direction would be lifetime term limits like there is for the presidency. Senators should get 2 terms or 15 years and representatives should get 4 terms or 9 years.

PorkChopSandwiches
10-30-2014, 03:07 PM
Yeah, but why would they vote themselves out of their cushy job

FBD
10-30-2014, 03:16 PM
we need a majority of clear headed motherfuckers for that to happen...1 or 2 dont quite cut it amongst 535...