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FBD
11-24-2014, 04:28 PM
https://www.goldcore.com/goldcore_blog/122_Tonnes_of_Gold_Secretly_Repatriated_to_Netherl ands

The Dutch central bank said Friday it is repatriating some of its gold reserves from the U.S., making it the latest central bank in Europe to address public concerns about the safety of its gold in the wake of the eurozone debt crisis.

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As the debate regarding whether or not Switzerland should keep the bulk of its gold reserves at home on Swiss soil reaches it's climax - the referendum takes place on Sunday - it is telling that the Dutch announced on Friday that they have just secretly repatriated 122 tonnes of their sovereign gold reserves from New York back to Amsterdam.

The gold, worth $5 billion at today's prices, represents 20% of the Netherlands total reserves. It now keeps 31% of its reserves in Amsterdam. Another 31% is believed to be in New York, with the remainder spread between Ottawa and London - the same locations where the bulk of Swiss gold is purported to be stored.

The trend towards gold repatriation began with Hugo Chavez bringing Venezuelan gold back to Caracas in 2011. It has been followed by similar moves by other large gold owning nations and central banks, most notably, Germany.

The repatriation movement has been driven by suspicion that the Federal Reserve and other central banks may have leased or sold gold it was holding on behalf of other countries to bullion banks and that this gold may have been used in order to suppress the price of gold in recent years.

Bizarrely, the Federal Reserve’s gold holdings have not been audited in over 50 years.

The last audit, and the last public visit, was in 1953, just after U.S. President Dwight Eisenhower took office. No outside experts were allowed during that audit, and the audit team tested only about 5% of gold there. So, there hasn’t been a comprehensive audit of Fort Knox in over 60 years.

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Demands for gold repatriation also accelerated after the Lehman collapse and during the global financial crisis due to concerns that if the U.S. and world suffered a systemic collapse or a dollar crisis , nations may find it hard to secure their gold reserves.

The concern was that a desperate Fed could nationalise international gold reserves in order to prevent a dollar collapse or to rebuild confidence in the dollar after a currency crisis.

It is interesting to note that while some western economists, such as Paul Krugman, continue to denigrate gold, western central banks, do not appear to view gold as a "barbarous relic." Nor do their eastern counterparts and their Chinese counterparts many of whom have been quietly reducing their dollar, euro and pound foreign exchange reserves and adding to their gold reserves in recent years.

The Dutch Central Bank went so far as to state that the action was designed to install public confidence in the ability of the central bank to manage crises. The prospect of further shipments from the U.S. remains open as they are keeping the logistical details secret.

Questions are already being asked about how the Dutch were able to repatriate such a sizeable volume of gold when Germany's request was brushed aside. It may be that by taking a discreet approach the Dutch allowed the Federal Reserve room to manoeuvre - allowing them to harvest the metal from the open market. Skeptical analysts have suggested that the fall in the ETF gold holdings may have come in handy for the New York Federal Reserve.

Questions are also being asked about the faith of the Ukrainian gold reserves after the gold disappeared from the Ukraine’s central bank soon after the U.S. sponsored coup brought the new government to power.

The Dutch clearly view gold favourably as an important monetary asset and they also have demonstrated their belief that owning gold in a secure manner is of utmost importance.

Although the German Central Bank has stated that it trusts the Americans as custodians of it's gold reserves - despite being denied access to vaults in New York to view their own gold - the campaign for repatriation of Germany’s gold remains strong.

Whether the Swiss gold initiative passes or fails this weekend it is still worth noting that a very large minority of Swiss are very conscious of the role that gold plays particularly in times of crisis.

During the reformation in Europe it was in these three countries - Germany, Switzerland and the Netherlands - that independent thought flourished. Populations globally have been “dumbed down” in recent years but these nations still have a high level of public discourse and debate and the importance of prudence, saving, thrift and gold remains understood by many.

We believe that other central banks may have already quietly sought or indeed will seek repatriation of their gold from New York, Ottawa and London. This has the potential to create a short squeeze as central banks may be forced to enter the market to acquire the physical bullion that they thought they already owned.

If these custodians are not in possession of the gold they claim to hold they, too, will be forced to buy gold on the open market where supply is now extremely tight as seen in gold remaining in backwardation.

We believe, like the Dutch, that only gold bullion in your possession or allocated gold stored in secure locations such as Singapore, Hong Kong and Zurich can be viewed as a safe-haven asset.

FBD
11-24-2014, 04:28 PM
And of course, still no mention of where that 20+ tons of gold looted from Ukraine have gone...

FBD
11-24-2014, 04:43 PM
ahahahahahahaha :rofl: hahahahahahaa, seriously? yeah, very VERY believable :lol: :rofl:

http://bank.gov.ua/control/uk/publish/article?art_id=12252943&cat_id=55838

From the central bank:


National Bank of Ukraine has optimized the structure of international reserves. This is due to timing structure of international reserves and the external position of the country. National Bank of Ukraine decided in September 2014 to increase the share of US dollar in a reserve basket, because the structure of the trade balance of the country is 70.3% in US dollars, 15% in euros. 77.7% of gross foreign debt denominated in Ukraine USD in EUR - 11.2% in SDR - 5.8%.



Recently, there was a significant volatility in global currency markets associated with the strengthening of the US dollar against other world currencies. Therefore, the National Bank of Ukraine decided to reduce the share of gold in foreign exchange reserves to 8%. To this end, the international markets has sold 0.46 million. Troy ounces of gold in US dollars, respectively proportion of gold in international reserves declined to 7.9%.



According to the IMF, the proportion of gold in global reserves at an average of 11.7%, while international reserves of developing countries, the proportion of gold in an average of 4.4%.



:lol: oh, the dollar's surging right now, so we thought it would be a good idea to sell our gold and get us dollars instead :rofl: yeah that's believable



The Ukraine is out in the cold

The U.S. has taken their gold

Ukraine was outsmarted

A fool has been parted

With something of value they hold

-the limerick king

PorkChopSandwiches
11-24-2014, 04:52 PM
Why would they not keep it in their own country to begin with

Muddy
11-24-2014, 05:11 PM
If invaded they could lose all their wealth in one whack?

FBD
11-24-2014, 05:17 PM
^ this, in the old way

curiously - the ONLY place they "officially" removed gold from was the USA

also curious that an audit of US gold has not been allowed in 60 years. what does that tell you? that's before bretton woods was ended and "we were taken off the gold standard" (even if functionally it began with the federal reserve system being set up) so when people speak of "freefall" that seems to be happening today - remember, when you start falling, its slowly at first, then following an exponential curve.

a curve that was bent hard downward with the petrodollar scheme that masked the US's default on its financial situation and removing anything that backed the currency whatsoever, aside from the point of a gun. these days, it is backed by the petrodollar, enforced by the gun - but still, 98.7% hot air. the curve still exists, we have basically just ignored the realities of it for....well, at least 60, if not 100 years.

PorkChopSandwiches
11-24-2014, 05:18 PM
Why do Countries Hold Their Gold at the Federal Reserve?

There are several reasons and here are two of the most important ones...


1. Security Concerns

For fear of theft, looting or damage and theft during conflicts with other countries, the central banks of various states around the World have deposited their gold bars in New York.

After all, New York is considered relatively safe and "the financial capital of the World".

The United States are a great power and "less would dare to attack" it is behind the feeling of safety that depositors felt when putting their gold in.


2. Facilitates Trade and Exchange

The gold bars here have a code, a number on them. Each country owns a list with the codes of the bars that they own. When a country sells gold or exchanges gold for products or services, the bars aren't physically transferred. Instead, only the codes are transferred from one country to the other.

For instance, if "country A" buys oil from "country B" in exchange for gold, then a certain amount of "country A's" gold bars will simply change their owner. For example - gold bars previously owned by "country A" and numbered "000120" to "000273" will from then on be owned by "country B".

Ownership transfer is merely a transfer on paper.

FBD
11-24-2014, 05:22 PM
yeah...how's about that WTC gold again in building....5 was it? :lol: very secure, in another owner's hands.

for all that talk of ownership, that writing does all it can to avoid the word "repatriation" - as in we dont trust you fucks no more to hold and not tungsten out our gold.

so ask yourself why was germany given the big fuck you on repatriating THEIR gold from the federal reserve?

well...in addition to mentioning the missing 20+ tons of ukranian gold, the netherlands provided some huge cover regarding that crayon declaration of russia's guilt on the MH matter, so perhaps they had a little....ahem, leverage...