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Teh One Who Knocks
05-24-2011, 03:22 PM
The Associated Press


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OAKLAND, Calif. -- As crestfallen followers of a California preacher who foresaw the world's end strained to find meaning in their lives, Harold Camping revised his apocalyptic prophecy Monday, saying he was off by five months because the Earth actually will be obliterated on Oct. 21.

Camping, who predicted that 200 million Christians would be taken to heaven Saturday before global cataclysm struck the planet, said he felt so terrible when his doomsday message did not come true that he left home and took refuge in a motel with his wife. His independent ministry, Family Radio International, spent millions -- some of it from donations made by followers -- on more than 5,000 billboards and 20 RVs plastered with the Judgment Day message.

Follower Jeff Hopkins also spent a good deal of his own retirement savings on gas money to power his car so people would see its ominous lighted sign showcasing Camping's May 21 warning. As the appointed day drew nearer, Hopkins started making the 100-mile round trip from Long Island to New York City twice a day, spending at least $15 on gas each trip.

"I've been mocked and scoffed and cursed at and I've been through a lot with this lighted sign on top of my car," said Hopkins, 52, a former television producer who lives in Great River, NY. "I was doing what I've been instructed to do through the Bible, but now I've been stymied. It's like getting slapped in the face."

Camping, who made a special appearance before the press at the Oakland headquarters of the media empire Monday evening, apologized for not having the dates "worked out as accurately as I could have." Through chatting with a friend over what he acknowledged was a very difficult weekend, the light dawned on him that instead of the biblical Rapture in which the faithful would be swept up to the heavens, May 21 had instead been a "spiritual" Judgment Day, which places the entire world under Christ's judgment, he said.

The globe will be completely destroyed in five months, he said, when the apocalypse comes. But because God's judgment and salvation were completed on Saturday, there's no point in continuing to warn people about it, so his network will now just play Christian music and programs until the final end on Oct. 21.

"We've always said May 21 was the day, but we didn't understand altogether the spiritual meaning," he said. "The fact is there is only one kind of people who will ascend into heaven ... if God has saved them they're going to be caught up."

It's not the first time the 89-year-old retired civil engineer has been dismissed by the Christian mainstream and has been forced to explain when his prediction didn't come to pass. Camping also prophesized the Apocalypse would come in 1994, but said later that didn't happen then because of a mathematical error.

Monday, rather than give his normal daily broadcast, Camping took questions as a part of his show, "Open Forum," which transmits his biblical interpretations via the group's radio stations, TV channels, satellite broadcasts and website.

Camping's hands shook slightly as he pinned his microphone to his lapel, and as he clutched a worn Bible he spoke in a quivery monotone about some listeners' earthly concerns after giving away possessions in expectation of the Rapture.

Family Radio would never tell anyone what they should do with their belongings, and those who had fewer would cope, Camping said.

"We're not in the business of financial advice," he said. "We're in the business of telling people there's someone who you can maybe talk to, maybe pray to, and that's God."

But he also said that he wouldn't give away all his possessions ahead of Oct 21.

"I still have to live in a house, I still have to drive a car," he said. "What would be the value of that? If it is Judgment Day why would I give it away?"

Apocalyptic thinking has always been part of American religious life and popular culture. Teachings about the end of the world vary dramatically -- even within faith traditions -- about how they will occur.

Still, the overwhelming majority of Christians reject the idea that the exact date or time of Jesus' return can be predicted.

Tim LaHaye, co-author of the best-selling "Left Behind" novels about the end times, recently called Camping's prediction "not only bizarre but 100 percent wrong!" He cited the Bible verse Matthew 24:36, "but about that day or hour no one knows" except God.

"While it may be in the near future, many signs of our times certainly indicate so, but anyone who thinks they `know' the day and the hour is flat out wrong," LaHaye wrote on his website, leftbehind.com.

Signs of disappointment also were evident online, where groups that had confidently predicted the Rapture -- and, in some cases, had spent money to help spread the word through advertisements -- took tentative steps to re-establish Internet presences in the face of widespread mockery.

The Pennsylvania-based group eBible Fellowship still has a website with images of May 21 billboards all over the world, but its Twitter feed has changed over from the increasingly confident predictions before the date to circumspect Bible verses that seem to speak to the confusion and hurt many members likely feel.

Camping offered no clues about Family Radio's finances Monday, saying he could not estimate how much had been spent on getting out his prediction nor how much money the nonprofit had taken in as a result. In 2009, the nonprofit reported in IRS filings that it received $18.3 million in donations, and had assets of more than $104 million, including $34 million in stocks or other publicly traded securities.

Josh Ocasion, who works the teleprompter during Camping's live broadcasts in the group's threadbare studio sandwiched between an auto shop and a palm reader's business, said he enjoyed the production work but he had never fully believed the May 21 prophecy would come true.

"I thought he would show some more human decency in admitting he made a mistake," he said. "We didn't really see that."

RBP
05-24-2011, 03:26 PM
:|

Teh One Who Knocks
05-24-2011, 03:38 PM
I wonder what the odds are in Vegas on this? :-k

Acid Trip
05-24-2011, 03:41 PM
So much for humility...

Deepsepia
05-24-2011, 03:58 PM
Don't you think he'd build in a little more "cushion" to his revised prediction?

I mean, he's 89 .. . if I were him, I'd say "Oh, May 21, 2021" . . .

DemonGeminiX
05-24-2011, 04:03 PM
Is this one of those addiction/compulsion things? You didn't get it right the first time so you just keep trying over and over and over again?

RBP
05-24-2011, 04:10 PM
Maybe Rapture did happen, but only like 1 dude fit the criteria and it wasn't him.

Hal-9000
05-24-2011, 05:06 PM
"my math was bad"

Explain that to all of the people and families who sold their houses, quit their jobs, gave away possessions you old, stupid POS :x

Acid Trip
05-24-2011, 05:13 PM
"my math was bad"

Explain that to all of the people and families who sold their houses, quit their jobs, gave away possessions you old, stupid POS :x

Maybe he should show someone how he derived his numbers and then we can all check the "Math".

Hal-9000
05-24-2011, 05:16 PM
what was it Mathew said ?

*paraphrases*

When the whole shithouse goes up, no man shall know the exact day and time...





No man, meaning false prophets like this dork above...of all people he should know that more than anyone

Hugh_Janus
05-24-2011, 05:35 PM
can't any of you yanks sue him?

Acid Trip
05-24-2011, 06:38 PM
can't any of you yanks sue him?

I don't think they allow you to sue someone for being stupid......yet

Muddy
05-24-2011, 06:47 PM
Gimmee MY MONEY BACK... BEFOE I beat yo AZZZZZ bitch!

PorkChopSandwiches
05-24-2011, 07:06 PM
These are the kind of people who enforce my beliefs.

Hal-9000
05-24-2011, 07:10 PM
anyone struggling with the idea of faith and who/what to follow only needs to examine this particular leader and this article....


probably the only person since Hitler who was disappointed that 200 million people DIDN'T die

'he felt terrible..."

PorkChopSandwiches
05-24-2011, 07:37 PM
This guy has the longest running radio show of anyone in history, he has been broadcasting the same show for 50 years.

PorkChopSandwiches
05-24-2011, 07:39 PM
He is president of Family Radio, a California-based radio station that spans more than 150 markets in the United States.
Camping is notable for using Bible-based numerology to predict dates for the Rapture.[3][4] In his most recent failed prediction, he calculated that the Rapture would occur on May 21, 2011, and that God would subsequently completely destroy the Earth and the universe five months later on October 21.[5][6] He has also predicted judgment days on May 21, 1988, and September 7, 1994.[7][8]

He's notorious for this shit

Hal-9000
05-24-2011, 08:07 PM
I tell you what all my faithful brethren of listeners:

God won't end this world, man will.
take it from there you singularly minded lemmings...








reverend-9000

Muddy
05-24-2011, 08:32 PM
Porky hates Jesus, Hal.

Acid Trip
05-24-2011, 08:35 PM
He's notorious for this shit

What's also strange is that he said Earth would be destroyed 5 months after the Rapture. I believe the Bible forecasts 7 years of "trials and tribulations" between the Rapture and the final day (aka Armageddon).

PorkChopSandwiches
05-24-2011, 08:36 PM
Porky hates Jesus, Hal.

I have nothing against Jesus, just blind followers. ;)

Muddy
05-24-2011, 08:37 PM
Jesus loves you.

PorkChopSandwiches
05-24-2011, 08:40 PM
this I know, for the bible tells me so

DemonGeminiX
05-24-2011, 09:45 PM
What's also strange is that he said Earth would be destroyed 5 months after the Rapture. I believe the Bible forecasts 7 years of "trials and tribulations" between the Rapture and the final day (aka Armageddon).

Yeah, I don't think the guy made it through the cliff notes of the bible, let alone the bible itself.

Hal-9000
05-24-2011, 10:30 PM
Porky hates Jesus, Hal.

Jesus hates Porky too :lol:

He has an image to uphold so don't tell PCS....

Hal-9000
05-24-2011, 10:32 PM
What's also strange is that he said Earth would be destroyed 5 months after the Rapture. I believe the Bible forecasts 7 years of "trials and tribulations" between the Rapture and the final day (aka Armageddon).


hmmm...nuclear bomb drops, land is wasted.Trials and tribulations follow for about 7 years....final day will involve only a small percentage of survivors.

Sounds about right :thumbsup: