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FBD
01-23-2015, 04:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421914688&v=qwKnPW7tNzA&x-yt-cl=84503534

http://asiatikistic.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-now-descredited-western-mainstream.html#more

THE WESTERN PRESS IS ASHAMED TO REPORT THE TRUTH: The Right Sector Number 3 Man was captured by the Novorussian militia
The now-discredited Western mainstream media has already lost its credibility, that it's nothing but a mercenary propaganda machine. It may be ineffective (and I think, it should be mothballed altogether) but it's still a great source of laughs though.

The Donetsk Airport has been retaken by the Novorussians for days now (since January 20), and a Ukrainian commander who headed the doomed battalion to retake it was even captured a couple of days ago by the Novorussian militia. Mind you, not just a military commander but he was the Number 3 man in the Right Sector party list, the Nazi gang co-opted by the Western imperialists to occupy Ukraine. The Western press has held out for days about the retaking by the Novorussians of the airport (it was a great propaganda windfall for the rebels, that's why they were hesitant), but they were finally forced two days after the fact (they couldn't hide it anymore, videos were appearing everywhere), and while they were reporting that the Novorussians have captured some prisoners, nobody in the American press mentioned the name of Oleg Mikats, the captured Right Sector clown. The capture of Mikats was as big as the capture of the Donetsk Airport itself. But the Western mercenary press failed to do its duty- to inform the public of the really important, and true, news.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7r6rbvLWF8&x-yt-ts=1421914688&x-yt-cl=84503534


There's actually a clue when the Ukrainians are losing: you would read their noisy claim about the presence of Russian soldiers attacking them. That happened when they were routed last year by the rebels, and only the Minsk Ceasefire saved them. Two days ago, when they were defeated at the Donetsk airport, we heard again the claims of the Ukrainian puppet President and the NATO commander that the Russians have atttacked Ukraine. LOL, that's almost a sure sign they were defeated by the rebels again and they had to resort to their "Russians are attacking" drama to hopefully mask their shame.
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I do love seeing fascists lose. Props to the Novorussians for consistently kicking the shit out of these bastards.


It is tragic to see all of this bombed to shit though. Nisefuckinjob, Nato


Still waiting on those ATC tapes...which will never be forthcoming until the next nurnberg trials...

FBD
01-23-2015, 09:11 PM
to give an idea how strong buildings are, when they are not purposefully demolished....

http://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/headline/public/2014/10/06/donetsk-airport.jpg

it took seven months of nearly constant bombardment by the novorussians (multiple times there were massive fires that burned for extended times...and not just one.....) to make this ATC tower collapse

must simply be that great russian engineering, right? :lol:

FBD
01-23-2015, 09:30 PM
for the western/ukranian propaganda version, see

https://news.vice.com/article/ten-civilians-killed-in-ukrainian-bus-attack-as-donetsk-airport-control-tower-is-destroyed

where they attempt to blame the novorussians on the bus attack,

but like the video above shows, locals have captured ukes and are accosting them and yelling at them and asking why did they blow up the bus, because the locals are under no delusions and they know who's who in areas such as this.

but dont count on the ukranians ever having any evidence that even remotely approaches these levels of details, because.....propaganda can only produce so much.

FBD
01-23-2015, 09:54 PM
http://i.imgur.com/nyZnilm.jpg

FBD
01-24-2015, 08:06 PM
on the streets of mariupol today


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=84503534&x-yt-ts=1421914688&v=X5TFXLocXBM

FBD
01-26-2015, 04:15 PM
now what are YOU doing in Mariupol, mister american military looking person? did Obama announce we had boots on the ground over there?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW1JdOXdJkU&x-yt-ts=1421914688&x-yt-cl=84503534




"has in fact provided substantial lethal aid to Ukranian forces" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-25/hacked-us-documents-said-reveal-extent-undisclosed-us-lethal-aid-ukraine-army)

PorkChopSandwiches
01-26-2015, 05:03 PM
He was the only one I could understand

FBD
01-26-2015, 05:11 PM
well, yes, exactly, which was part of the point - American mercenaries should not be in Ukraine.

we have all this shite about Russia aiding the novorussians, little to no actual evidence aside from admitted facts that russia has been letting some number of soldiers "have leave" with no further questions asked.

whereas we keep having more and more evidence showing deep US & nato involvement in replacing the prior government and causing all of this war, trying to blame it on putin every step of the way with pretty much zero evidence.

PorkChopSandwiches
01-26-2015, 09:35 PM
Sounds like standard practice

FBD
02-10-2015, 04:00 PM
With 4-way 'peace' talks set to re-commence in Minsk today with the Germans stating "difficult issues" remain following yesterday's confirmation that a "military solution is not possible," we thought the following image summed up life (as it is) in Eastern Ukraine currently...

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/02/20150210_ukr1_0.jpg


"PArticuarly ironic with the sign advertising doors and windows."

FBD
02-10-2015, 04:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixf1LEzh1fo

FBD
02-11-2015, 05:17 PM
even a lot of the locals in western ukraine dont believe the bullshit and know the current "government" is there illegally



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQjmwVC_Dts

FBD
02-11-2015, 05:26 PM
unsurprising the fkn nazis are going after her now


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxEQg02ogUI

redred
02-11-2015, 06:07 PM
i've noticed your local / happy stories seemed to have stopped , can you start them back up again :tup:

FBD
02-11-2015, 07:10 PM
it was a fluke that I even found a couple to begin with, news is shite.


but we have no shortage of fodder for other things


this stuff here...well its where my great grumps was from, and you guys all seem to believe the USA propaganda about what's going on over there, so I post stuff to show you in fairly unequivocal terms who the aggressors and warmakers are in the situation.

FBD
02-17-2015, 08:04 PM
I love how the guy sarcastically ends it with "hungry, terrible life came to russian crimea" right after noting their budget is 3x what it was under Ukraine :lol:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c-vTrBuoh0

PorkChopSandwiches
02-17-2015, 09:56 PM
i've noticed your local / happy stories seemed to have stopped , can you start them back up again :tup:

:lol:

FBD
02-19-2015, 05:29 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2015/02/ukraine%20territory%20update_0.jpg

Well, since the Minsk ceasefire is officially over before it even started, one can be sure that an attempt will be made. The reason: as the updated map below showing who controls what territory in east Ukraine currently - with Debaltseve firmly in separatist hands - Mariupol is the last remaining outpost before "Novorossiya" will have a land access to Crimea.



As for what happens after Mariupol, too, falls? Well, the broke Ukraine government is just making it too easy. As Reuters also reports, "Ukraine has suspended supplies of gas to its eastern regions because the gas network was damaged by fighting between pro-Russian separatists and government forces, Ukrainian state gas firm Naftogaz said on Thursday. "Due to the extensive damage of the gas transport networks, the supply of gas ... was suspended on Feb. 18. The resumption of gas supplies is not yet possible because of the ongoing hostilities in the region," the company said in a statement."



In other words, with Kiev fully cutting off east Ukraine from its control, it will be up to Putin to swoop in and "save" the territory from its host government which no longer cares about the fate of the people living there.

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cant wait to see the elections :lol: and watch NATO talk about their fraudulence .02 seconds after the polls close :lol:

redred
02-19-2015, 06:32 PM
Just because it's a Russians view point doesn't make it true

FBD
02-19-2015, 06:37 PM
:lol: these things like land occupied and who's winning where are facts, red. go check out any of the local papers, do a little more research outside of whatever the MSM is programmed to tell you.


christ at the grage the other night, they mention on nbc nightly news about the truce and the ceasefire....and said absolutely nothing whatsoever about the gaggle of A10s that are on their way over there. you know damn well the media doesnt report things deemed unsavory by the owners of the channel.

FBD
02-24-2015, 06:03 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/02/20150224_ukr1.jpg

Ukrainian Prosecutor General’s Office has opened a criminal cases against National Bank governor Valeriya Gontareva, the Vesti publication said on Tuesday.

FBD
02-25-2015, 09:13 PM
Russian President Vladimir Putin said Wednesday the decision of the Ukrainian authorities to halt gas supplies to Donetsk amid the ongoing humanitarian catastrophe “bear hallmarks of genocide”.


“As if hunger [in Donetsk and Luhansk] was not enough – the OSCE has already stated that the region is experiencing a humanitarian catastrophe – they had their gas supplies cut off. What would you call it? I would say this bears the hallmarks of genocide,” he said during a meeting with President of Cyprus Nicos Anastasiades.


"Apparently, some responsible leaders of the modern-day Ukraine are unable to understand the importance of humanitarian issues. It seems that the very notion of humanism has been forgotten," he added.




"Prepayments, made by Ukrainian side, are enough for three - four days. If [further] payment is not made, Gazprom, in compliance with this contract, will halt the [gas] supplies," Putin said at a press conference.



"Naturally, it may create a certain threat for the transit to Europe," Putin added.



Ukraine's state energy company Naftogaz on Monday accused Russia's Gazprom of failing to deliver the gas for which Kiev had prepaid.



According to a statement by the company's press service, Gazprom was to deliver 114 cubic meters both on February 22 and February 23 but supplied only 47 and 39 million cubic meters on these dates instead, respectively.



On Tuesday, Gazprom head Alexei Miller, in turn, said that the amount of gas prepaid by Ukraine was estimated at 219 million cubic meters, enough for a couple of days only.



Kiev's massive gas debt, exceeding $5 billion at the time, forced Moscow to suspend gas deliveries to Ukraine for nearly six months in 2014. Deliveries resumed in early December under the so-called winter package deal, mediated by the European Union and signed by Gazprom and Naftogaz. The deal stipulated that Ukraine must pay Russia in advance for all future gas supplies.

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redred
02-25-2015, 09:31 PM
So Russia has never cut or threat to cut gas supply ' s of to other countries before ?

FBD
02-25-2015, 09:54 PM
You missed the main idea there - Ukraine is *way* behind on paying Gazprom. So much that they said prepay only. Now Kiev is threatening to cut off the east of Ukraine from the gas that they do actually buy.

redred
02-25-2015, 10:00 PM
But the same pipe line feeds other countries who do pay there bills Croatia and Bulgaria in 2009 for example were both effected

FBD
02-25-2015, 10:04 PM
Bit of a problem then, innit? Ukraine has been skimming gas off the line on top of it - what else would one have Gazprom do in such a case? (as in, Gazprom says we delivered X through the pipe, Ukraine bought X-Y, yet X-Y-Z appears at the other end of Ukraine's pipe....)

This is why there is talk of pipe through turkey, or azerbaijian...

and this is why the Israelis want war in Syria and to take Assad out, so that there can be a pipeline run through Syria that they Syrians will not allow. All of this is centered around hitting Russia and getting alternate means of production so that they dont have to pay the russians, so that they can say fuck you russia, isolate them, and then subdue them.

and Russia is having none of it, because it holds decent cards in its hands also - just not the "we can print any amount of money we feel like" one.

FBD
02-26-2015, 03:00 PM
as expected,
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/26/us-russia-crisis-ukraine-gas-idUSKBN0LU11M20150226


Russia's Gazprom says can exempt rebel-held areas from Ukraine gas contract

FBD
02-26-2015, 04:39 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/ttUjLPZ.png