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Teh One Who Knocks
02-06-2015, 12:30 PM
By Michael Allen - Opposing Views


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New York City Police Commissioner William Bratton told New York state lawmakers on Wednesday that he wants to upgrade the charge of resisting arrest from a misdemeanor to a felony.

“I think a felony would be very helpful in terms of raising the bar significantly in the penalty for the resistance of arrest,” Commissioner Bratton told reporters after the hearing with lawmakers, noted Observer.com.

“We need to get around this idea that you can resist arrest," added Commissioner Bratton. "You can’t. You just can’t do it. It results in potential injuries to the officer, to the suspect. And we need to change that, and the way to change that is to start penalties for it."

WNYC reported in December 2014 that there have been 51,503 cases of resisting arrest made by the NYPD since 2009, and almost 3/4 of those arrests were made by only 15 percent of NYPD officers.

According to Sam Walker, a retired criminal justice professor from the University of Nebraska-Omaha, police officers across the country are charging people for resisting arrest as an excuse for using force.

"There's a widespread pattern in American policing where resisting arrest charges are used to sort of cover – and that phrase is used – the officer's use of force," Walker told WNYC. "Why did the officer use force? Well, the person was resisting arrest."

Commissioner Bratton recently made the news when he announced his intention to use a new anti-terrorism unit (armed with machine guns) on protesters, which the NYPD later retracted, reported RT.com.

Civil rights activists were often charged with resisting arrest in the 1960s, but under Commissioner Bratton's new plan present day activists could do jail time in a state prison with murderers.

FBD
02-06-2015, 03:53 PM
The police need to get around this idea of ordering people around for no reason

redred
02-06-2015, 04:03 PM
if they were trying to arrrest you they might just have a reason for ordering you around

FBD
02-06-2015, 04:07 PM
you've got it backwards


they come order you around


if you dont like it, they arrest you


see how that works?

Teh One Who Knocks
02-06-2015, 04:08 PM
if they were trying to arrrest you they might just have a reason for ordering you around

Maybe, but the problem is with the phrase "resisting arrest", most cops use that as a pretty broad term for very minor things, and if you get nailed with a felony for that, it's huge on your record, especially if it was undeserving.

redred
02-06-2015, 04:09 PM
you've got it backwards


they come order you around


if you dont like it, they arrest you


see how that works?

that always happens 100% of the time ?

redred
02-06-2015, 04:10 PM
Maybe, but the problem is with the phrase "resisting arrest", most cops use that as a pretty broad term for very minor things, and if you get nailed with a felony for that, it's huge on your record, especially if it was undeserving.

maybe they're just fed of with being shot at :shrug:

Teh One Who Knocks
02-06-2015, 04:14 PM
maybe they're just fed of with being shot at :shrug:

You're now just as guilty of going to the extreme as FBD tends to do :slap:

It has nothing to do with being shot at. Suppose you are being detained by the cop(s) for whatever reason and you are already in a bad mood and you mouth of to the cop. He can call that 'resisting arrest'.

FBD
02-06-2015, 04:14 PM
that always happens 100% of the time ?of course it doesnt


maybe they're just fed of with being shot at :shrug:you really need to stop watching cop shows on the tv

FBD
02-06-2015, 04:18 PM
You're now just as guilty of going to the extreme as FBD tends to do :slap:

It has nothing to do with being shot at. Suppose you are being detained by the cop(s) for whatever reason and you are already in a bad mood and you mouth of to the cop. He can call that 'resisting arrest'.

Drunk people aside, usually resisting arrest comes about because the cop was taking too long coming up with a reason to detain in the first place, but I'm a fucking cop, obey me, so there's that little disconnect between what's lawful and what's not. If he detains you, he has to charge you with something...and if nothing else and he's being a dickhead, if he pisses you off enough and you react in a way he deems cuff worthy, there's his reason right there, resisting arrest....arrest for what? nothing, assaulting an officer, obstructing an investigation....what investigation....the investigation of resisting arrest...


see how that circular bullshit comes about? If a cop wants to fuck with you but has no reason to detain you, all he can really do is piss you off and try to get you to give him the slightest little opening to assert his authority over you like a big dog chesting a smaller dog saying fuck you I'm the bigger dog here and dont you forget it.


people forget that humans are animals.

PorkChopSandwiches
02-06-2015, 04:19 PM
Anytime you irritate a cop, who very well could be harassing you, you can get hit with resisting arrest, even if you have done nothing but ruffle their feathers. This isn't Nazi Germany over here, this asshats don't have the right to do what they have been doing lately. People are getting fed up.

PorkChopSandwiches
02-06-2015, 04:20 PM
Plus, we all ready incarcerate more people per capita then the rest of the world, better get those numbers up