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Teh One Who Knocks
05-31-2011, 01:41 PM
By BEN DOBBIN, Associated Press


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ROCHESTER, N.Y. – At Image City Photography Gallery, Gary Thompson delights in pointing out qualities of light, contrast and clarity in one of his best-selling prints — a winter-sunset view of Yosemite National Park's El Capitan peak shot with a hefty Pentax film camera he bought in 1999 for $1,700.

His wife, Phyllis, a latecomer to fine-art photography after they retired from teaching in the 1990s, favors a Hasselblad X-Pan for panoramic landscapes, such as a time-lapse shot of a harbor in Nova Scotia.

Of 11 partners and resident artists at the private gallery in Rochester — the western New York city where George Eastman transformed photography from an arcane hobby into a mass commodity with his $1 Brownie in 1900 — the Thompsons are the only ones left who haven't switched to filmless digital cameras.

But that time may be near.

"I like the color we get in film, the natural light," says Phyllis Thompson, 70, who married her high-school sweetheart 50 years ago. "But digital cameras are getting much better all the time, and there will come a time when we probably won't be able to get film anymore. And then we'll have to change."

At the turn of the 21st century, American shutterbugs were buying close to a billion rolls of film per year. This year, they might buy a mere 20 million, plus 31 million single-use cameras — the beach-resort staple vacationers turn to in a pinch, according to the Photo Marketing Association.

Eastman Kodak Co. marketed the world's first flexible roll film in 1888. By 1999, more than 800 million rolls were sold in the United States alone. The next year marked the apex for combined U.S. sales of rolls of film (upward of 786 million) and single-use cameras (162 million).

Equally startling has been the plunge in film camera sales over the last decade. Domestic purchases have tumbled from 19.7 million cameras in 2000 to 280,000 in 2009 and might dip below 100,000 this year, says Yukihiko Matsumoto, the Jackson, Mich.-based association's chief researcher.

For InfoTrends imaging analyst Ed Lee, film's fade-out is moving sharply into focus: "If I extrapolate the trend for film sales and retirements of film cameras, it looks like film will be mostly gone in the U.S. by the end of the decade."

Just who are the die-hards, holdouts and hangers-on?

Among those who still rely on film — at least part of the time — are advanced amateurs and a smattering of professionals who specialize in nature, travel, scientific, documentary, museum, fine art and forensic photography, market surveys show.

Regular point-and-shoot adherents who haven't made the switch tend be poorer or older — 55 and up.

But there's also a swelling band of new devotees who grew up in the digital age and may have gotten hooked from spending a magical hour in the darkroom during a high school or college class.

Others are simply drawn to its strengths over digital and are even venturing into retro-photo careers.

"In everything from wedding to portrait to commercial photography, young professionals are finding digital so prevalent that they're looking for a sense of differentiation," says Kayce Baker, a marketing director at Fujifilm North America. "That artistic look is something their high-end clients want to see."

Kodak remains the world's biggest film manufacturer, with Japan's Fuji right on its tail. But the consumer and professional films they make have dwindled to a precious few dozen film stocks in a handful of formats, becoming one more factor in the mammoth drop-off in film processing.

Scott's Photo in Rochester finally switched this year stopped daily processing of color print film because fewer than one in 20 customers are dropping off film. A decade ago, "we could process 300 rolls on a good day, and now we see maybe 8 or 10 rolls on the few days we actually process," owner Scott Sims says.

For the hustling masses, there's no turning back the clock.

"There's so many digital images taken every day, especially with mobile media, that never will hit a piece of paper," says Therese Mulligan, administrative chair of the School of Photographic Arts and Sciences at Rochester Institute of Technology.

Even at major photography schools, film is an elective specialty.

"Our entire first two years' curriculum is digital in orientation," Mulligan says. "Those that follow a fine-art option are the first to gravitate toward film. Other genres we teach — photojournalism or advertising or biomedical — have a stronger digital emphasis because of the industry itself."

In a rich irony, film's newest fans — not unlike music aficionados who swear by vinyl records — are being drawn together via the rise of the Internet.

"The technology that enabled the demise of film is actually helping to keep it relevant with specific types of users," says IDC analyst Chris Chute.

But with the film market shrinking by more than 20 percent annually, most other signs point downhill. Analysts foresee Kodak offloading its still-profitable film division sometime in the next half-dozen years as it battles to complete a long and painful digital transformation.

Kodak will churn out a variety of films as long as there's sufficient demand for each of them, says Scott DiSabato, its marketing manager for professional film. It has even launched four new types since 2007.

While digital has largely closed the image-quality gap, DiSabato says a top-line film camera using large-format film "is still unsurpassed" in recording high-resolution images.

"The beauty with film is a lot of wonderful properties are inherent and don't require work afterward" whereas digital can involve heavy computer manipulation to get the same effect, DiSabato says.

"In the extreme, they call it `stomped on,'" he said. "But a lot of photographers want to be photographers, not computer technicians. And some prized film capabilities — grain, color hues, skin-tone reproduction — can't quite be duplicated no matter how much stomping goes on."

Gary Thompson, who's been exhibiting his best photos for 32 years, captured his Yosemite picture on medium-format slide film — which is 4 1/2 times bigger than 35 mm film — during one of many weeks-long photo jaunts with his wife.

In the digitally scanned, 24-by-30-inch print, the shadow from a dipping sun has climbed halfway up El Capitan. The wooded, black-and-white foreground with its lacy snow patterns stands in stark contrast to the golden glow on the granite cliff face under a blue sky.

"I don't know if I could have gotten this print that large with that kind of detail" using a digital camera without "shooting several images and blending them together in Photoshop," he says. "What attracts me to shoot in almost all instances is the quality of light and there's something about film and working with it and the way it records that I just like."

Thompson feels acutely that he's reaching the end of an era.

"As people's film cameras break down, rather than purchasing another one, they move to digital," he says. "Eventually, we'll probably be doing that. There's a certain nostalgia involved, particularly when I'm working with one of my big husky cameras. That will be sad. But hey, when it happens, I'll adjust."

Teh One Who Knocks
05-31-2011, 01:41 PM
Kodak was one of our bigger customers the past several years. They closed down the plant in Colorado that we did work for last year.

DemonGeminiX
05-31-2011, 01:54 PM
I'll be the first one to tell you that everything moves on, nothing stays the same, and that you need to change along with a changing world, but sometimes, it just feels wrong.

Teh One Who Knocks
05-31-2011, 02:15 PM
Yeah, even though I haven't had a camera that uses actual film in quite awhile, it seems weird that it will just be suddenly gone sooner rather than later.

Softdreamer
05-31-2011, 02:23 PM
I had a camera that uses film, when my nephew picked it up he held it at arms length and said
"How do i know where to point it?"

I showed him and then he said, "how do I know if the picture is any good then?"

and I remembered growing up and waiting for the film at the shop only to discover that I had 2 pictures that were keepers out of 28.
The only downside nowadays is that people delete pics because they think they dont look good in them.

lost in melb.
05-31-2011, 03:00 PM
Yeah, it's sometimes too easy with digital. I remember how precious a roll of film was when I traveled around in the 90s

Acid Trip
05-31-2011, 03:37 PM
Yeah, it's sometimes too easy with digital. I remember how precious a roll of film was when I traveled around in the 90s

Do you remember accidentally ruining a roll of film because it wasn't rewound all the way when you opened it? That was always fun hehe.

Softdreamer
05-31-2011, 03:49 PM
not as much fun as accidentally using the same roll of film twice.

Double exposures are not cool... unless you take one set of pictures in a nursing home, then the other in a graveyard :D

beowulf
05-31-2011, 09:21 PM
funny...only last week i happened to see a stack of kodak 35mm film on offer in a discount shop and thought then that i couldnt remember the last time i bought a roll of film.........must be about 9 years ago....still got a nice pentax somewhere that seems like an antique to the canon digital im using now :lol:

Hal-9000
05-31-2011, 11:03 PM
lets follow this story and see what develops..

Deepsepia
06-01-2011, 11:25 AM
funny...only last week i happened to see a stack of kodak 35mm film on offer in a discount shop and thought then that i couldnt remember the last time i bought a roll of film.........must be about 9 years ago....still got a nice pentax somewhere that seems like an antique to the canon digital im using now :lol:

Funny to try to remember the "last time" you did things that are technologically obsolete. You forget so fast.

When was the last time you:

Typed on a typewriter
Sent a personal letter
made a collect call
dialed "411" to get a phone number
used a dedicated fax machine
used a tuner for over the air tv signals (though digital broadcast has brought this back somewhat)
bought an airline ticket through a travel agent
used a rotary dial phone

Softdreamer
06-01-2011, 12:14 PM
I seriously doubt most people under 25 have ever done ANY of those!

Thanks[-(
Now I feel old:meh:

Teh One Who Knocks
06-01-2011, 12:20 PM
Funny to try to remember the "last time" you did things that are technologically obsolete. You forget so fast.

When was the last time you:

Typed on a typewriter
Sent a personal letter
made a collect call
dialed "411" to get a phone number
used a dedicated fax machine
used a tuner for over the air tv signals (though digital broadcast has brought this back somewhat)
bought an airline ticket through a travel agent
used a rotary dial phone

Most of those I can't remember, but I still use a semi-dedicated fax machine at work. It doubles as a printer and scanner for my work PC, so it's not strictly a fax, but it's close.

AntZ
06-01-2011, 12:40 PM
Funny to try to remember the "last time" you did things that are technologically obsolete. You forget so fast.

When was the last time you:

Typed on a typewriter
Sent a personal letter
made a collect call
dialed "411" to get a phone number
used a dedicated fax machine
used a tuner for over the air tv signals (though digital broadcast has brought this back somewhat)
bought an airline ticket through a travel agent
used a rotary dial phone

You forgot driving around trying to find a pay phone for either a call, or find an address out of the phone book hanging from it!

In the late 80's and early 90's, I was paged by my office a dozen times a day! I was always looking for pay phones to call back with our 800 number, that saved me from the need to carry loose change.

Softdreamer
06-01-2011, 12:45 PM
Holy shit yes. Mobile ran out of battery last week, stepped into a phone box with 50p to phone home...

Minimum of 60p to make a call :wtf: I didnt bother :hand:

I remember using 10p and talking for 20 minutes!

Teh One Who Knocks
06-01-2011, 12:51 PM
You'd be lucky to even find a pay phone in Denver....they are all being taken out for lack of use. I can't remember the last time I saw one TBH.

Softdreamer
06-01-2011, 12:58 PM
You'd be lucky to even find a pay phone in Denver....they are all being taken out for lack of use. I can't remember the last time I saw one TBH.

I think the ones in London are kept in place by the local 'escort & massage' services offered on cards inside. There was uproar when the red ones were taken down :(

When I was a student there was a top trumps/trading cards game that developed from collecting them :rofl:

Muddy
06-01-2011, 01:04 PM
I dial 411 on my cell phone all the time for numbers when Im away from home..

beowulf
06-01-2011, 01:57 PM
Funny to try to remember the "last time" you did things that are technologically obsolete. You forget so fast.

When was the last time you:

Typed on a typewriter.......about a year ago....was in an antiques shop admitantly
Sent a personal letter....about a month ago
made a collect call......pass....dont think i have EVER done that
dialed "411" to get a phone number.....never,...im in britain, it wouldnt work :lol:
used a dedicated fax machine.....about a month ago
used a tuner for over the air tv signals (though digital broadcast has brought this back somewhat).......seriously......day before yesterday!.....long story!
bought an airline ticket through a travel agent.......about 5 years...the last time i flew
used a rotary dial phone.........now that was a long time ago :lol:

Softdreamer
06-01-2011, 02:08 PM
Maybe this should become a separate thread?

"How long since..."

Acid Trip
06-01-2011, 02:40 PM
bought an airline ticket through a travel agent

Man, the last time I did that was in Germany in the early 90's! Travel agent is one job I haven't seen in a long time.

Teh One Who Knocks
06-01-2011, 02:53 PM
Maybe this should become a separate thread?

"How long since..."

:tup:

http://tehbasement.com/showthread.php?7128-When-was-the-last-time....&p=93739#post93739

lost in melb.
06-01-2011, 03:48 PM
Do you remember accidentally ruining a roll of film because it wasn't rewound all the way when you opened it? That was always fun hehe.

Oh yes, and still getting it developed to salvage a few precious pics ;)