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Teh One Who Knocks
06-08-2011, 11:47 AM
By WAYNE PARRY, Associated Press


ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. – Lightning has struck twice at the Tropicana Casino and Resort, which has lost more than $11 million to just two high-stakes gamblers since April.

Just weeks after a blackjack player beat the casino for $5.8 million, a different gambler won $5.3 million last week.

Yet despite the huge losses, the Tropicana is sticking with its new emphasis on high-stakes table games play, confident that things will eventually run it its favor.

"That's just how it goes sometimes; if you bet more, you can win more," said Tony Rodio, the Tropicana's president and CEO. "We have a strategy of offering the most aggressive and highest table games limits in the Atlantic City market and we're not going to change that. If someone wants to take the shot, we'll take the action."

Lately it's the Tropicana that's been getting taken.

In April, Bensalem, Pa., gambler Don Johnson beat the casino for $5.8 million at blackjack, part of a spectacular roll that also saw him beat Caesars Atlantic City for more than $4.2 million and the Borgata Hotel Casino & Spa for $5 million. His winning story was first reported by The Press of Atlantic City.

Rodio would not identify last week's winner, citing the casino's policy to keep the identities of its players confidential. But he did say it was not Johnson.

Last Wednesday's winner hit big at the craps table, where he was betting $100,000 at a time. He also did well at blackjack and mini-baccarat, Rodio said.

The man left a $150,000 tip for dealers when he was done raking the casino; it was divided up among table games dealers on duty that night.

Billionaire investor Carl Icahn bought the Tropicana out of bankruptcy last year, and has set about trying to regain business it lost under its previous owners, an affiliate of Kentucky-based Columbia Sussex Corp. A centerpiece of that strategy is trying to make up lost ground in a hurry by allowing high-stakes bettors to take their best shot against the casino at table games.

That approach had been serving the Trop well, until Johnson and last week's gambler came into town.

Rodio said the casino has the wherewithal to withstand even multimillion-dollar setbacks like those it recently experienced, adding no layoffs or cutbacks are expected as a result.

"There have been some players that we were big winners with," he said.

Rodio said Icahn planned to call Johnson and personally invite him back to the Tropicana to play again soon.

"Mr. Icahn is personally very supportive of this strategy, and he understands that there are fluctuations with it," he said.

Goofy
06-08-2011, 12:03 PM
I won £20 at blackjack once :D

Muddy
06-08-2011, 12:32 PM
Those crooks need to lose some money... It's nothing but a cash cow...

PorkChopSandwiches
06-08-2011, 02:46 PM
I love these stories

Godfather
06-08-2011, 03:37 PM
That's great, nice to see someone can actually win


I've been to casinos maybe 6 times in my life and am probably up $400 overall. Feels like a huge victory to me :lol:

Hal-9000
06-08-2011, 08:49 PM
sounds like card counting to me if he's raking in 5.8 million at Blackjack.....the casino seems to be taking the hit well.


my sister has managed all of the casinos on our west coast for years (GF probably played at one of her places), I wonder what she'd think of this story

PorkChopSandwiches
06-08-2011, 08:52 PM
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/LIFPOD/5995808.jpg

Hal-9000
06-08-2011, 08:53 PM
THE PIGLET, YAY!




(not Kenny :lol:)

PorkChopSandwiches
06-08-2011, 08:53 PM
:lol:

minz
06-08-2011, 08:54 PM
sounds like card counting to me if he's raking in 5.8 million at Blackjack.....the casino seems to be taking the hit well.


my sister has managed all of the casinos on our west coast for years (GF probably played at one of her places), I wonder what she'd think of this story

Maybe its just a publicity stunt :dunno:

Hal-9000
06-08-2011, 08:57 PM
Maybe its just a publicity stunt :dunno:

Ya usually casinos get very interested when players take out millions on single hand games...

they basically stated what we all know...there's lows and highs and the casino will recoup the cash from other players.
They're being awfully nice to the first guy, inviting him back.


Maybe they want to have a 'discussion' with him in the back room?

Teh One Who Knocks
06-08-2011, 09:11 PM
sounds like card counting to me if he's raking in 5.8 million at Blackjack.....the casino seems to be taking the hit well.


my sister has managed all of the casinos on our west coast for years (GF probably played at one of her places), I wonder what she'd think of this story

If he's counting cards, then he's very good at it. Casinos are very good at watching for that and they will...help you leave...their establishment if they think you are card counting.

Hal-9000
06-08-2011, 09:14 PM
the tricky thing is the proof....the casino can state - We think you're doing this and no court of law will prosecute the guy.
It's a mental process and by the letter of the law, not illegal.



enter...the leg breakers Vito & Tony :thumbsup:

Teh One Who Knocks
06-08-2011, 09:17 PM
Yeah, Vito and Tony don't need proof ;)

Plus if you get accused of counting cards, casinos share that information and you'll get blacklisted at every casino in the city.

Hal-9000
06-08-2011, 10:29 PM
sister's hubby is head of security at the big casino in Victoria...you know all the stuff you see on TV regarding cameras etc?

It's true.Facial recognition software, hand scanners for employees....they got it all.They can tell by simple body language who's going to try and take the casino for a ride.