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AntZ
06-09-2011, 11:24 AM
Coal Regs Would Kill Jobs, Boost Energy Bills

By Paul Bedard

Posted: June 8, 2011




Two new EPA pollution regulations will slam the coal industry so hard that hundreds of thousands of jobs will be lost, and electric rates will skyrocket 11 percent to over 23 percent, according to a new study based on government data.

Overall, the rules aimed at making the air cleaner could cost the coal-fired power plant industry $180 billion, warns a trade group.


“Many of these severe impacts would hit families living in states already facing serious economic challenges,” said Steve Miller, president of the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity. “Because of these impacts, EPA should make major changes to the proposed regulations before they are finalized,” he said.

The EPA, however, tells Whispers that the hit the industry will suffer is worth the health benefits. “EPA has taken a number of sensible steps to protect public health, while also working with industry and other stakeholders to ensure that these important Clean Air Act standards—such as the first ever national Mercury and Air Toxics Standards for coal-fired power plants—are reasonable, common-sense, and achievable,” said spokesman Brendan Gilfillan.

What’s more, officials said that just one of the rules to cut sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxide emissions will would yield up to $290 billion in annual health and welfare benefits in 2014. They say that amounts to preventing up to 36,000 premature deaths, 26,000 hospital and emergency room visits, and 240,000 cases of aggravated asthma. “This far outweighs the estimated annual costs,” says an official on background.

Still, the EPA did note that the two new antipollution rules are “pending” and that the agency has “accepted and are considering feedback” from the industry.

The industry says the costs and potential to lose four jobs for every new clean energy job created isn’t worth the rules, especially in a job-starved economy.

Referring to the analysis of the EPA regulations from National Economic Research Associates, Miller said they would be the most expensive rules ever imposed on power plants.

Coal-fired energy plants currently fuel about half of the nation’s energy supply.


http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/06/08/coal-regs-would-kill-jobs-boost-energy-bills

Arkady Renko
06-10-2011, 12:59 PM
what a joke, it starts with the name of that lobby group: "Clean coal coalition"? I mean seriously, what the fuck do they think how dumb people are? clean coal is about as absurd as the cubic ball or the perfectly safe nuclear power plant. ridiculous piece of now-news!

AntZ
06-10-2011, 01:31 PM
what a joke, it starts with the name of that lobby group: "Clean coal coalition"? I mean seriously, what the fuck do they think how dumb people are? clean coal is about as absurd as the cubic ball or the perfectly safe nuclear power plant. ridiculous piece of now-news!

You should send a note to Obama! He believes in it!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfcS1STL6WE

Deepsepia
06-10-2011, 03:08 PM
You should send a note to Obama! He believes in it!

You can burn coal more cleanly, as Obama indicates. It costs money to do that, which is what the industry is objecting to.

Its worth noting that the coal industry has objected to pretty much every measure to protect the health and safety of their own workers and the health of the environment.

Absent Federal regulations, what do you think the safety and environmental standards of the coal industry would be? Would you want to live downwind of a coal plant with no EPA regulations?

Acid Trip
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
You can burn coal more cleanly, as Obama indicates. It costs money to do that, which is what the industry is objecting to.

Its worth noting that the coal industry has objected to pretty much every measure to protect the health and safety of their own workers and the health of the environment.

Absent Federal regulations, what do you think the safety and environmental standards of the coal industry would be? Would you want to live downwind of a coal plant with no EPA regulations?

According to Deep the EPA is the ONLY reason mine safety has increased so much since the 1900's. None of it was voluntary by the coal companies and none of it was because technological or medical advances... :rolleyes:

It's funny because the EPA didn't even exist until the 1970's. I guess the decrease in deaths and increased miner safety between 1900 and 1970 was just a fluke?

What a bunch of hooey.

Deepsepia
06-10-2011, 06:09 PM
According to Deep the EPA is the ONLY reason mine safety has increased so much since the 1900's. None of it was voluntary by the coal companies and none of it was because technological or medical advances... :rolleyes:

It's funny because the EPA didn't even exist until the 1970's. I guess the decrease in deaths and increased miner safety between 1900 and 1970 was just a fluke?

What a bunch of hooey.

Mine safety is not EPA.

The Federal push to regulate mine safety has been ongoing since the 1890s, and yes, their regulations (and the efforts of the mineworkers' unions) ARE the reason that mines are safer than they were before that time. The landmark legislation is the "Federal Mine Safety Act of 1952" -- which in a sense is the last piece of "Roosevelt era" legislation (though passed under Truman).

The EPA is the reason that folks who live in areas where coal is mined have cleaner water, and why folks who live downwind of coal plants have cleaner air than than prior to the Clean Air and Clean Water acts.

Again, the mining industry has objected to every one of the improvements that made coal mining safer, both underground and in the environment.

Muddy
06-10-2011, 06:35 PM
Deep, I bet you'd be hell on wheels in a trivia competition..

Deepsepia
06-10-2011, 06:39 PM
Deep, I bet you'd be hell on wheels in a trivia competition..

There are a couple of bars here that do them . . . I do OK, but I need to pair with someone who knows sports (I know hockey, and thats about it), and a girl for the artsy stuff.

Muddy
06-10-2011, 06:50 PM
Lance knows the sports, and RBP knows the girly stuff.. :razz: