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PorkChopSandwiches
01-03-2016, 07:25 PM
An armed militia took over a building at a national wildlife refuge in Oregon late Saturday and vows to occupy the outpost for years to protest the federal government’s treatment of a pair of ranchers facing prison time.

The occupation of a portion of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge 30 miles southeast of Burns, Ore., followed a peaceful march for ranchers Dwight Hammond, 73, and Steven Hammond, 46, who are scheduled to report to federal prison in San Pedro, Calif., on Monday after being convicted of arson, according to the Oregonian.

Prosecutors said the father and son set the fire, which burned about 130 acres in 2001 on leased federal land, to conceal poaching, according to CNN. The Hammonds argued that they were attempting to reduce the growth of invasive plant species and ward off potential wildfires. The pair was sentenced to five years in prison.

Among the occupiers are several members of the Bundy family, whose patriarch — Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy — was involved in an armed standoff with government agents over grazing rights in 2014.

Ammon Bundy told the Oregonian that he and two of his brothers had joined dozens of people in seizing the refuge’s headquarters.

The federal property, managed by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, was closed and unoccupied for the holiday weekend, the Oregonian reported.

wMalheur2300 The Malheur National Wildlife Refuge was established on August 18, 1908 by President Theodore Roosevelt “as a preserve and breeding ground for native birds,
Ryan Bundy told the Oregonian that the group isn’t holding hostages and doesn’t want to resort to violence but will not rule it out if authorities attempt to remove the occupiers from the property. He said many of the occupiers would be willing to fight — and die — to reclaim constitutionally protected rights for local land management, according to the Associated Press.

The group is calling for the Hammonds’ release and said the militia was planning an occupation that lasted “for years.”

“The best possible outcome is that the ranchers that have been kicked out of the area, then they will come back and reclaim their land, and the wildlife refuge will be shut down forever and the federal government will relinquish such control,” Ryan Bundy told the Oregonian. “What we’re doing is not rebellious. What we’re doing is in accordance with the Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land.”

The Malheur National Wildlife Refuge was established on August 18, 1908 by President Theodore Roosevelt “as a preserve and breeding ground for native birds,” according to the park’s website.

“The Refuge represents a crucial stop along the Pacific Flyway and offers resting, breeding, and nesting habitat for hundreds of migratory birds and other wildlife,” a statement on the site says. “Many of the species migrating through or breeding here are highlighted as priority species in national bird conservation plans.”
In a video interview with reporters on Saturday that was posted on Ammon Bundy’s Facebook page, he said the group is standing up against government “overreach” because “the people have been abused long enough.”

“I feel we are in a situation where if we do not do something, if we do not take a hard stand, we’ll be in a position where we’ll be no longer able to do so,” he said.

A video posted days earlier on Bundy’s Facebook page urged militia members from all over the country to join him:

“**ALL PATRIOTS ITS TIME TO STAND UP NOT STAND DOWN!!! WE NEED YOUR HELP!!! COME PREPARED.”

Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward urged the public to stay away from the area as authorities work to resolve the standoff, according to the Oregonian.

“A collective effort from multiple agencies is currently working on a solution,” Ward said in a statement reported by the paper. “For the time being please stay away from that area. More information will be provided as it becomes available. Please maintain a peaceful and united front and allow us to work through this situation.”

Beth Anne Steele, an FBI spokeswoman in Portland, told the AP that the bureau was aware of the situation at the wildlife refuge, but she declined further comment.

A U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service spokesperson told CNN that the agency and the Bureau of Land Management are monitoring the armed protesters.

“While the situation is ongoing, the main concern is employee safety, and we can confirm that no federal staff were in the building at the time of the initial incident,” the spokesperson said. “We will continue to monitor the situation.”

Cliven Bundy told Oregon Public Broadcasting on Saturday night that he wasn’t involved in the standoff, but he struck a sympathetic tone.

“That’s not exactly what I thought should happen, but I didn’t know what to do,” he said. “You know, if the Hammonds wouldn’t stand, if the sheriff didn’t stand, then, you know, the people had to do something. And I guess this is what they did decide to do. I wasn’t in on that.”

Late Saturday, the occupiers blocked the entrance of the federal headquarters with a pickup truck and placed an American flag over the welcome sign, according to Oregon Public Broadcasting. An Oregon State Police car “idled by the side of the road just outside Burns,” the broadcaster reported, but there were no signs of a larger law enforcement presence in the area.

“We are not hurting anybody or damaging any property.,” Ammon Bundy told OPB. “We would expect that they understand that we have given them no reason to use lethal force upon us or any other force.”

Ron Gainer, the owner of a nearby RV park who dropped off some chili for the occupiers, told the broadcaster that he counted about 15 people, a half-dozen vehicles and a trailer at the site. The estimate differed sharply from the Bundy family accounting, which put the number of people at the refuge at about 150, according to OPB.

By nightfall, the broadcaster noted, the temperature had plummeted to 10 degrees, prompting occupiers to bundle around a campfire. Some of those present identified themselves as nearby residents and supporters of the convicted ranchers.

Asked by an OPB reporter how many militia members were at the headquarters, Bundy didn’t divulge.

“I will not disclose,” he said. “Operational security.”

Loser
01-03-2016, 08:50 PM
The pair burned some property on their land that carried over to federal land for about an acre.

They were charged as terrorists and given 5 years.

When they attempted to contact ACLU they were threatened with more time and more charges.

This is nothing more that a property grab by the BLM, as they are doing all over the south, to sell to firms overseas, mainly from China.

Pony
01-03-2016, 09:02 PM
The pair burned some property on their land that carried over to federal land for about an acre.

They were charged as terrorists and given 5 years.

When they attempted to contact ACLU they were threatened with more time and more charges.

This is nothing more that a property grab by the BLM, as they are doing all over the south, to sell to firms overseas, mainly from China.

I was reading an article on this earlier, they have video of the BLM burning acres of land just weeks later and leaving it untended, they show that the BLM is purposefully trying to burn them out and has killed cattle and caused a ranch to burn.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zvrrQbjepc

Hugh_Janus
01-03-2016, 09:28 PM
:popcorn:

DemonGeminiX
01-04-2016, 01:53 AM
The county sheriff involved is publicly saying that these occupiers want to overthrow the government. That's not a good sign.

PorkChopSandwiches
01-04-2016, 02:48 AM
People are "fed" up

DemonGeminiX
01-04-2016, 02:53 AM
That's not what I mean. Usually, when LE publicly states something like that, then going in with guns blazing to take the opposition out is on the table.

PorkChopSandwiches
01-04-2016, 03:10 AM
I don't know enough about this situation yet, but they haven't been guns a blazing'. I do have a problem with "federal land" though. The fed shouldn't own anything, the states should.

PorkChopSandwiches
01-04-2016, 03:25 AM
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-militia-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/

DemonGeminiX
01-04-2016, 04:25 AM
I don't know enough about this situation yet, but they haven't been guns a blazing'. I do have a problem with "federal land" though. The fed shouldn't own anything, the states should.

I know the background, I'm just sayin'. If you've heard some of the stuff the opposition leader was saying, and then LE comes out and acknowledges that the opposition's an insurgent force looking to spark a rebellion, all LE agencies involved are going to be looking for a quick and decisive resolution. Not just to stop the opposition, but to show strength and stop any possible future uprising elsewhere that may be on the fence leaning towards the idea of causing mischief right now. That means, if they feel they have to, LE will go in with force and take out as many of the opposition as possible, in order to say to others, "Try it and this will happen to you too."

fricnjay
01-04-2016, 03:04 PM
http://filmingcops.com/breaking-armed-american-militia-members-take-over-government-building/

http://alibertarianfuture.com/guns/no-the-bundy-brothers-oregon-militia-are-not-terrorists/#sthash.90t7Fn8S.dpbs

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/mow-down-americans-critical-police-killings-beg-feds-slaughter-citizens/

A few different articles explaining whats really going on.

redred
01-04-2016, 03:15 PM
i'd bet they'd be out of that building if they were black or muslim :shock:

PorkChopSandwiches
01-04-2016, 09:12 PM
Here's what it boils down too

http://i.imgur.com/1pVYPJB.jpg

fricnjay
01-04-2016, 10:39 PM
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/blm-guilty-environmental-atrocities-concerned-wildlife-conservation/

Muddy
01-04-2016, 11:02 PM
Here's what it boils down too

http://i.imgur.com/1pVYPJB.jpg


Wow!

PorkChopSandwiches
01-04-2016, 11:21 PM
Exactly

Griffin
01-05-2016, 02:51 AM
This is just a continuing battle from the 1800's.
Cattle barons thought they had exclusive rights to public land and could bully everyone else off.
These people are squatters and got rousted out.