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AntZ
06-14-2011, 09:20 PM
Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big Drop in Solar Activity

by Denise Chow, SPACE.com Staff Writer


Date: 14 June 2011



Some unusual solar readings, including fading sunspots and weakening magnetic activity near the poles, could be indications that our sun is preparing to be less active in the coming years.

The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the current sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum, the sun could be heading into a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot cycle greatly reduced or even eliminated.

The results of the new studies were announced today (June 14) at the annual meeting of the solar physics division of the American Astronomical Society, which is being held this week at New Mexico State University in Las Cruces.

"The solar cycle may be going into a hiatus," Frank Hill, associate director of the National Solar Observatory's Solar Synoptic Network, said in a news briefing today (June 14).

The studies looked at a missing jet stream in the solar interior, fading sunspots on the sun's visible surface, and changes in the corona and near the poles. [Photos: Sunspots on Earth's Star]

"This is highly unusual and unexpected," Hill said. "But the fact that three completely different views of the sun point in the same direction is a powerful indicator that the sunspot cycle may be going into hibernation."


Sunspots are temporary patches on the surface of the sun that are caused by intense magnetic activity. These structures sometimes erupt into energetic solar storms that send streams of charged particles into space.

Since powerful charged particles from solar storms can occasionally wreak havoc on Earth's magnetic field by knocking out power grids or disrupting satellites in orbit, a calmer solar cycle could have its advantages.

Astronomers study mysterious sunspots because their number and frequency act as indicators of the sun's activity, which ebbs and flows in an 11-year cycle. Typically, a cycle takes roughly 5.5 years to move from a solar minimum, when there are few sunspots, to the solar maximum, during which sunspot activity is amplified.

Currently, the sun is in the midst of the period designated as Cycle 24 and is ramping up toward the cycle's period of maximum activity. However, the recent findings indicate that the activity in the next 11-year solar cycle, Cycle 25, could be greatly reduced. In fact, some scientists are questioning whether this drop in activity could lead to a second Maunder Minimum, which was a 70-year period from 1645 to 1715 when the sun showed virtually no sunspots.


Hill is the lead author of one of the studies that used data from the Global Oscillation Network Group to look at characteristics of the solar interior. (The group includes six observing stations around the world.) The astronomers examined an east-west zonal wind flow inside the sun, called torsional oscillation. The latitude of this jet stream matches the new sunspot formation in each cycle, and models successfully predicted the late onset of the current Cycle 24.

"We expected to see the start of the zonal flow for Cycle 25 by now, but we see no sign of it," Hill said. "The flow for Cycle 25 should have appeared in 2008 or 2009. This leads us to believe that the next cycle will be very much delayed, with a minimum longer than the one we just went through."

Hill estimated that the start of Cycle 25 could be delayed to 2021 or 2022 and will be very weak, if it even happens at all.

The sun's magnetic field

In the second study, researchers tracked a long-term weakening trend in the strength of sunspots, and predict that by the next solar cycle, magnetic fields erupting on the sun will be so weak that few, if any, sunspots will be formed.

With more than 13 years of sunspot data collected at the McMath-Pierce Telescope at Kitt Peak in Arizona, Matt Penn and William Livingston observed that the average magnetic field strength declined significantly during Cycle 23 and now into Cycle 24. Consequently, sunspot temperatures have risen, they observed.

If the trend continues, the sun's magnetic field strength will drop below a certain threshold and sunspots will largely disappear; the field no longer will be strong enough to overcome such convective forces on the solar surface.

In a separate study, Richard Altrock, manager of the Air Force's coronal research program at NSO's facility in New Mexico, examined the sun's corona and observed a slowdown of the magnetic activity's usual "rush to the poles."

"A key thing to understand is that those wonderful, delicate coronal features are actually powerful, robust magnetic structures rooted in the interior of the sun," Altrock said. "Changes we see in the corona reflect changes deep inside the sun."

Altrock sifted through 40 years of observations from NSO's 16-inch (40 centimeters) coronagraphic telescope.

New solar activity typically emerges at a latitude of about 70 degrees at the start of the solar cycle, then moves toward the equator. The new magnetic field simultaneously pushes remnants of the past cycle as far as 85 degrees toward the poles. The current cycle, however, is showing some different behavior.

"Cycle 24 started out late and slow and may not be strong enough to create a rush to the poles, indicating we'll see a very weak solar maximum in 2013, if at all," Altrock said. "If the rush to the poles fails to complete, this creates a tremendous dilemma for the theorists, as it would mean that Cycle 23's magnetic field will not completely disappear from the polar regions. … No one knows what the sun will do in that case."

If the models prove accurate and the trends continue, the implications could be far-reaching.

"If we are right, this could be the last solar maximum we'll see for a few decades," Hill said. "That would affect everything from space exploration to Earth's climate."


http://www.space.com/11960-fading-sunspots-slower-solar-activity-solar-cycle.html

Muddy
06-14-2011, 09:31 PM
Wheres FBD to explain this in REALLY complicated terms? :razz:

AntZ
06-14-2011, 09:37 PM
Where is FBD??

Griffin
06-14-2011, 09:59 PM
I hope it means that it isn't really going to be in the upper 90's the rest the week.

Deepsepia
06-14-2011, 10:23 PM
Huh? We just had the most massive solar explosion ever seen

Dave Mosher

for National Geographic News

Published June 8, 2011

A mushroom of cooled plasma popped like a pimple and rained onto the surface of the sun yesterday—shooting perhaps the largest amount of solar material into space ever seen, scientists say.

The solar flare—an unusually bright spot on the sun—wasn't surprising as a "moderate" event. Space observatories in the past year recorded about 70 such solar flares, each roughly ten times weaker than "extreme" flares, of which only two have occurred since 2007.

Instead, what shocked scientists was the unusual amount of material that lofted up, expanded, and fell back down over roughly half the surface area of the sun. The event's simultaneous launch of particles into space is called a coronal mass ejection (CME).

"This totally caught us by surprise. There wasn't much going on with this spot, but as it came from behind the sun, all of the sudden there was a flare and huge ejection of particles," said astrophysicist Phillip Chamberlin of NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO), one of several spacecraft that recorded the event.

"We've never seen a CME this enormous."

Chamberlin said it will take some time to calculate the energy and mass of electrons and protons blasted into space. But he noted the volume occupied a space hundreds of times bigger than a single Earth.

http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/364/cache/massive-cool-solar-flare-june-2011_36422_600x450.jpg

Hal-9000
06-14-2011, 10:51 PM
following Deep's post....I had read that too and was going to say that if anything...I would worry about a large, random flare moreso than a decline in the sun's activity.


The day that EMP hits....well I guess if it hits we won't be online commenting on it :lol:

Teh One Who Knocks
06-14-2011, 10:53 PM
Magnets :thumbsup:

Hal-9000
06-15-2011, 02:30 AM
they are nothing to joke about young man! :x

If a solar flare erupts, it will hit Denver first...because you're closer to the sun



:dance: I shall dance when the Lance-net goes offline forever and your many harddrives pop and crackle in the aftermath.

Then you'll actually have to go out, to find replacement parts rather than order them online HA-HAW!

Hal-9000
06-15-2011, 02:31 AM
*stocks up on paper, chalk and stamps*

Teh One Who Knocks
06-15-2011, 02:41 PM
they are nothing to joke about young man! :x

If a solar flare erupts, it will hit Denver first...because you're closer to the sun



:dance: I shall dance when the Lance-net goes offline forever and your many harddrives pop and crackle in the aftermath.

Then you'll actually have to go out, to find replacement parts rather than order them online HA-HAW!

I'm still waiting for the space ray that DGX is building to hit Denver :|

Acid Trip
06-15-2011, 03:34 PM
Huh? We just had the most massive solar explosion ever seen

Dave Mosher

for National Geographic News

Published June 8, 2011

A mushroom of cooled plasma popped like a pimple and rained onto the surface of the sun yesterday—shooting perhaps the largest amount of solar material into space ever seen, scientists say.

The solar flare—an unusually bright spot on the sun—wasn't surprising as a "moderate" event. Space observatories in the past year recorded about 70 such solar flares, each roughly ten times weaker than "extreme" flares, of which only two have occurred since 2007.

Instead, what shocked scientists was the unusual amount of material that lofted up, expanded, and fell back down over roughly half the surface area of the sun. The event's simultaneous launch of particles into space is called a coronal mass ejection (CME).

"This totally caught us by surprise. There wasn't much going on with this spot, but as it came from behind the sun, all of the sudden there was a flare and huge ejection of particles," said astrophysicist Phillip Chamberlin of NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO), one of several spacecraft that recorded the event.

"We've never seen a CME this enormous."

Chamberlin said it will take some time to calculate the energy and mass of electrons and protons blasted into space. But he noted the volume occupied a space hundreds of times bigger than a single Earth.



Pay attention to the details.

"The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the current sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum (hence the large solar explosion), the sun could be heading into a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot cycle greatly reduced or even eliminated."

They said we COULD BE HEADING (future tense) into a more dormant period after THE CURRENT (present tense) sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum.

PorkChopSandwiches
06-15-2011, 03:38 PM
Magnets :thumbsup:

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l0kxwe3C0x1qz50sko1_500.jpg

FBD
06-15-2011, 05:24 PM
wassup everyone :) hope you all have been doing well!



"We expected to see the start of the zonal flow for Cycle 25 by now, but we see no sign of it," Hill said. "The flow for Cycle 25 should have appeared in 2008 or 2009. This leads us to believe that the next cycle will be very much delayed, with a minimum longer than the one we just went through." (this current cycle is already quite delayed as evidenced by the preponderance of no-sunspot days last couple years.)
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In the second study, researchers tracked a long-term weakening trend in the strength of sunspots,

the average magnetic field strength declined significantly during Cycle 23 and now into Cycle 24. Consequently, sunspot temperatures have risen, they observed.

If the trend continues, the sun's magnetic field strength will drop below a certain threshold and sunspots will largely disappear; the field no longer will be strong enough to overcome such convective forces on the solar surface.






"A key thing to understand is that those wonderful, delicate coronal features are actually powerful, robust magnetic structures rooted in the interior of the sun," Altrock said. "Changes we see in the corona reflect changes deep inside the sun."


that a relatively "massive" CME erupted is part of decline-phenomena, just as you see more rain and cool surge after a warm period (like this past winter,) - the magnetic strength dropping ostensibly let more mass out than it normally would have. we've certainly seen far more intensity in the flares itself, especially from the last couple maximums, i.e. the X45+ we saw back in 2003 at the last real max.


oh sweet data misinterpretations :razz:

if the sun's core flips its magnetic orientation, get ready for a relative ice age. I might just go out and buy a snowmobile :D

Teh One Who Knocks
06-15-2011, 05:52 PM
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l0kxwe3C0x1qz50sko1_500.jpg

Exactly.....it's magnets :thumbsup: