More Scottish police ordered to carry guns amid terror threat

[Teh One Who Knocks]

The Express


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POLICE are to put an extra 90 armed officers on the streets of Scotland amid heightened terrorism threats.

The move comes after the Orlando nightclub shooting and an attack in France, both carried out by Islamic extremists.

The rise - to more than 400 armed officers - was announced hours before Labour MP Jo Cox was gunned down on a West Yorkshire street.

The officers - armed with Heckler & Koch G36 carbines and Glock pistols - will be travelling in Armed Response Vehicles, not walking the beat.

Overall, the force is to boost the number of officers within armed policing by 124, a figure which also includes trainers and specialist firearms officers, including marksmen.

Assistant Chief Constable Bernie Higgins said the increase is in response to the latest assessments of the threat from terrorism and armed organised crime groups.

He stressed it was not being taken in response to any specific threat to Scotland, adding: "The threat level to the UK remains severe.

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"There is no specific known threat to Scotland and this is not a response to any direct intelligence, but it would be dangerous and complacent to think Scotland is any less at risk than the rest of the UK and this helps enhance our response."

Police Scotland's armed officers are called out an average 25 times a week and last opened fire, non-fatally, following a siege in Ayrshire earlier this year.

ACC Higgins added: "Our focus remains absolutely clear: to protect the public, reduce the risk posed by criminals - including terrorists - and ensure we respond swiftly, effectively and decisively to any threat."

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Justice Secretary Michael Matheson also stressed that there is "no specific known threat" of terrorism or shootings as he announced the move in Holyrood.

He said: "The recent attacks in mainland Europe and Orlando caused shock and grief around the world.

"Sadly, we know that Scotland and the UK are not immune from terrorism, we have seen attacks in both Glasgow and London.

"The different threats to our way of life are real and, as a nation, we must be prepared for any eventuality.

"The threat we face is real. The overall threat level in the UK from international terrorism is classified as severe and has been since August 2014."

[RBP]

What does a pacifist atheist do when someone threatens them?

Calls the people with the guns and prays they get there in time.

[redred]

must be all the gays they have up there :outtahere:

[fricnjay]

Maybe if the citizens where armed....:-k

[Goofy]

:yawn:

[Goofy]

How many terrorist attacks have been stopped due to citizens having guns? :-k Pretty difficult to shoot a guy thats just set off a suicide vest......... and, no offence intended, the cunt in Orlando managed to kill a shitload of people solo in a nation that has loads of guns and armed people. I wont be losing any sleep anyway :)

[fricnjay]

Gays are predominately liberal which are predominant anti gun. Notice the shooter didn't choose a biker bar. Out of all the bars or clubs in the US a gay bar will likely have least amount of armed citizens in it if any. Basic statistics.

[DemonGeminiX]

How many terrorist attacks have been stopped due to citizens having guns? :-k Pretty difficult to shoot a guy thats just set off a suicide vest......... and, no offence intended, the cunt in Orlando managed to kill a shitload of people solo in a nation that has loads of guns and armed people. I wont be losing any sleep anyway :)

Not to be indelicate, but he went after gay people. They're not exactly known for being too concerned with self-defense and security.

If every legal citizen could carry everywhere in this country, people intending to do harm would be a lot less willing to test the waters... cause he'd never know if somebody or a crowd of people were packing.

[redred]

it was a in a built up area , did any of the neighbours rush to help at the first sign of gunshots ?

[FBD]

the security services dont want their operatives killed, outside of the ones already deemed expendable, so operations are planned accordingly. and they'll continue to put tales on the news so tall, it should insult the intelligence of anyone reading it.

[fricnjay]

I dont know the area to speak on that.

[FBD]

What does it take to get a nation to surrender?

Iraq - 1 month military campaign

Yugoslavia - 78 days of bombing

Lybia - 7 months of bombing

Britain - 1 shot

[Goofy]

Not to be indelicate, but he went after gay people. They're not exactly known for being too concerned with self-defense and security.

If every legal citizen could carry everywhere in this country, people intending to do harm would be a lot less willing to test the waters... cause he'd never know if somebody or a crowd of people were packing.

I think you're giving these lunatics too much credit mate, rational thought surely doesnt come into it.

[Goofy]

and they'll continue to put tales on the news so tall, it should insult the intelligence of anyone reading it.


Much like your posts :)











:dance:

[redred]

:lol:

[FBD]

:lol: sure, go ahead and believe the news, its not like they'd ever lie to you :dance:

[DemonGeminiX]

I think you're giving these lunatics too much credit mate, rational thought surely doesnt come into it.

I'm not so sure about that. Yeah, their system of beliefs are way beyond whacked, but they plan these assaults meticulously. They know where to go and who to go after. The shooter scoped this place out for weeks in advance, or so reports are saying.

Insane might walk into a busy police station and try his luck there. And he'd probably get mowed down in 2 seconds flat. Sure he'd take some people out because no one would believe anybody would be stupid enough to do that and he'd catch them off guard. But the novelty would wear off quick around a bunch of people that are trained to respond, and there'd be nowhere near the amount of casualties that he's aiming for. But no one's trying to do that, now are they? Because they know the outcome. They're looking to inflict maximum carnage. That's premeditation. Some form of logical reasoning: 'Don't attack a place where I know I'll be a sitting duck at. I won't get the result I'm after.'

[fricnjay]

I'm not so sure about that. Yeah, their system of beliefs are way beyond whacked, but they plan these assaults meticulously. They know where to go and who to go after. The shooter scoped this place out for weeks in advance, or so reports are saying.

Insane might walk into a busy police station and try his luck there. And he'd probably get mowed down in 2 seconds flat. Sure he'd take some people out because no one would believe anybody would be stupid enough to do that and he'd catch them off guard. But the novelty would wear off quick around a bunch of people that are trained to respond, and there'd be nowhere near the amount of casualties that he's aiming for. But no one's trying to do that, now are they? Because they know the outcome. They're looking to inflict maximum carnage. That's premeditation. Some form of logical reasoning: 'Don't attack a place where I know I'll be a sitting duck at. I won't get the result I'm after.'

I agree, lest we forget at one time most of these "terror" organizations were freedom fighters that the US and its Allies trained at one time or another when it served their purposes.

[FBD]

pfffff

http://newsrescue.com/genesis-of-islamic-radicalism-the-us-textbook-project-that-taught-afghan-children-terror/#axzz4BNZBw2q6

yall have got to stop believing this whole thing was anything but pre planned and executed

pun intended.


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What converted the Afghanistan into this terror radiating machine? Perhaps the answer lies in a 53 million dollar project conducted from 1980-1994 from the US University of Nebraska, Pakistan campus (http://world.unomaha.edu/cas/). A US funded project that printed textbooks to teach Afghanistan children in school the art or war and terror. Millions of books were made and printed in Pakistan under this project and disbursed to Afghanistan schools to teach the kids to love war and so-called Jihad. Dead Russians and guns and other weaponry were the material in these books made for the young readers, to imprint a culture of violence in their infantile minds.

These books are yet to be replaced in Afghanistan and were the focus of several articles in papers like the Washington post, UK Telegraph etc after the fall of Afghanistan. These findings also provoke wonder- what else exists in educational material of post-colonial nations, that messes with minds?



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From U.S., the ABC’s of Jihad

Violent Soviet-Era Textbooks Complicate Afghan Education Efforts

By Joe Stephens and David B. Ottaway
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, March 23, 2002; Page A01

In the twilight of the Cold War, the United States spent millions of dollars to supply Afghan schoolchildren with textbooks filled with violent images and militant Islamic teachings, part of covert attempts to spur resistance to the Soviet occupation.

The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system’s core curriculum. Even the Taliban used the American-produced books, though the radical movement scratched out human faces in keeping with its strict fundamentalist code.

As Afghan schools reopen today, the United States is back in the business of providing schoolbooks. But now it is wrestling with the unintended consequences of its successful strategy of stirring Islamic fervor to fight communism. What seemed like a good idea in the context of the Cold War is being criticized by humanitarian workers as a crude tool that steeped a generation in violence.

[deebakes]

:rip: scotexit

[Pony]

the cunt in Orlando managed to kill a shitload of people solo in a nation that has loads of guns and armed people. I wont be losing any sleep anyway :)

In a club that did not permit guns. Just like most if not all of the big mass shootings they always pick places where guns are banned from the premises.

[Goofy]

:lol: sure, go ahead and believe the news, its not like they'd ever lie to you :dance:

You believe the news too :shrug: You just happen to believe the news that's posted on a site like Zerohedge, how does that make you right? :-k



In a club that did not permit guns. Just like most if not all of the big mass shootings they always pick places where guns are banned from the premises.

My workshop would be an unlikely target :ok:

[Goofy]

I'm not so sure about that. Yeah, their system of beliefs are way beyond whacked, but they plan these assaults meticulously. They know where to go and who to go after. The shooter scoped this place out for weeks in advance, or so reports are saying.

Insane might walk into a busy police station and try his luck there. And he'd probably get mowed down in 2 seconds flat. Sure he'd take some people out because no one would believe anybody would be stupid enough to do that and he'd catch them off guard. But the novelty would wear off quick around a bunch of people that are trained to respond, and there'd be nowhere near the amount of casualties that he's aiming for. But no one's trying to do that, now are they? Because they know the outcome. They're looking to inflict maximum carnage. That's premeditation. Some form of logical reasoning: 'Don't attack a place where I know I'll be a sitting duck at. I won't get the result I'm after.'

Fair point, 'lunatics' may have been the wrong word.......... 'psychotic brainwashed bastards' might work better.......... you know what i mean :)

[fricnjay]

My workshop would be an unlikely target :ok:

*targets Goofs Workshop* :shifty:

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*targets Goofs Workshop* :shifty:

what are you going to target , the first sniff of scottish water and you'd be drinking :lol:

[Goofy]

*targets Goofs Workshop* :shifty:

Pretty sure your drone's range doesn't extend to Scotland :)

[fricnjay]

what are you going to target , the first sniff of scottish water and you'd be drinking :lol:

Mmmmmm Scotch :dance:

[FBD]

You believe the news too :shrug: You just happen to believe the news that's posted on a site like Zerohedge, how does that make you right? :-k


:lol: zh presents quite a few viewpoints, you guys just get the wrong idea because I only post articles from there that I generally agree with

stories that I dont agree with include stories that are contradicted by all sort of eyewitness accounts, photos, or other evidence. from the looks of it, to you guys it only meets the evidentiary threshold when it becomes a mainstream viewpoint that the news can support :empathy:

[redred]

:boobs:

[RBP]

Even the NRA doesn't support carrying when drinking. An armed guard or 2, fine, but supporting patrons with loaded weapons in a nightclub is loony-toons.

[FBD]

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