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Teh One Who Knocks
07-18-2016, 12:03 PM
Richard Hartley-Parkinson for Metro.co.uk


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Adele and Matt Allen believe in a natural upbringing. So much so that when their two children, Ulysses and Ostara, were born, their umbilical cords were left to fall off naturally, in what is known as a ‘lotus birth’.

They have shunned modern medicine, Adele continues to breastfeed their five-year-old son, and they plan to home school.

The couple from Brighton use the controversial ‘Off-Grid Parenting’ style.

Adele, a writer, said: ‘Off-grid is moving towards self sustainability and being a bit more free range and less institutionalised.’

Matt said: ‘We did collect a lot of information but essentially it was just this feeling.’

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Illness is dealt with without going to the doctors (Picture: Barcroft)

Adele gave birth to both her children with no medical intervention and unassisted apart from having her husband Matt by her side.

She said: ‘The thought of giving birth in a hospital just didn’t appeal to me because of many reasons – mostly the observer effect.

‘Also, the interventions I think can be gently nudged on you when you are in a very vulnerable state.’

Adele and Matt also decided to have ‘lotus births’, meaning the placenta and umbilical cords were not surgically removed at birth.

Instead, Adele carried the attached placenta in a cool bag – scattered with salt and rose petals to help to dry the placenta and disguise any smell, around with her until it fell off naturally.

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Adele Allen’s lotus birth – when the placenta is left attached to the baby to drop off naturally – covered in
rose petals and salt to cover the smell (Picture: Barcroft)

She said: ‘With both my births it took six days for the umbilical cord to fall away naturally.

‘You wrap it up and keep it clean and it falls away and forms a perfect belly button.

‘In my knowledge, it’s perfectly safe and it worked beautifully for us. I don’t know of any known cases where it’s gone wrong.

‘I very much honour the postpartum-period and I didn’t go out at all during that first week. So it was just a matter of transporting it to the toilet or to the kitchen.’

Adele feels very strongly about full-term breastfeeding and her five-year-son still regularly feeds from Adele for comfort.

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Ulysses, 5, still breastfeeds (Picture: Barcroft)

She said: ‘Ulysses does still nurse from time to time. Since the baby came along it has decreased rapidly and we had to come to a mutual understanding that it needed to graduate down a bit, but then I wasn’t willing to say, “no you need to stop now”.

‘I think it’s up to him to decide when he wants to move on from it. It’s something that’s just as natural as a hug is, it’s a connection.’

Aside from a hospital trip with Ulysses following an asthma attack, the Allen children have never seen a doctor or received vaccinations.

Adele said: ‘I don’t really see that there’s any need other than using breastfeeding to supplement them.

‘I don’t see any need to inject any foreign substance directly into the blood stream. That’s not how children will come into the contact with a germ naturally anyway, be it in the mouth or another way.’

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The Allens want their children to learn in nature, not the classroom (Picture: Barcroft)

Distrusting of modern medicine, Adele prefers to treat her youngsters’ ailments naturally, using breast milk in their eyes to cure eye infections and serving them lemon juice when they have a cold.

She said: ‘If you use plants and herbs you target the bad without attacking the good bacteria as well.

‘If I had something serious like cancer, I would definitely take the natural path. I wholeheartedly have faith in it now and I’ve experienced enough of it to know that is the way forward.

‘The kids’ health is just as important as mine if not more so, and so again I would go with what I trust and for me, that is the natural path.’

Adele and Matt also believe in attachment parenting methods, such as co-sleeping, and the family of four all sleep in the same room.

Adele said: ‘It works quite nicely for us. Normally we put the baby down to sleep first. Uly pretty much picks up his own bed time, but as we don’t have a school routine in morning he is then able to wake up when it suits him.’

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Ulysses is being allowed to stop breastfeeding in his own time (Picture: Barcroft)

Ostara and Ulysses do not attend mainstream school and instead spend their days outside among nature, learning about plants.

The mum-of-two said: ‘We basically spend lots of time in nature. It’s more important to us for them to interact with animals and plants and learn about the environment than it is for them to have big sets of plastic toys.

‘Ostara really likes to play with woodlice and in the mud. In the park, there’s a big herb patch and she likes to pick and eat the mint leaves. Already at this young age she is thinking about what she can pick from nature and eat.’

The parents accept that reading and writing are imperative life skills but do not want learning to be forced upon their children and five-year-old Ulysses can only recognise basic letters and numbers.

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The family, who live in Brighton, do not trust modern medicine (Picture: Barcroft)

Adele said: ‘I don’t have an issue with that. There is no need for him to be able to read and write at this age anyway.’

Instead, Adele and Matt believe that Ulysses and Ostara are becoming curious about letters and numbers from seeing them out and about.

Adele said: ‘They see letters on drain covers and numbers on signs and then learning happens as a consequence of just being out in the world, rather than it being forced upon them in a classroom that is not particularly inspiring.’

The parents don’t worry that their non-traditional schooling will affect the children’s future.

Adele said: ‘I think home school kids are very successful entrepreneurs normally because they have been educated in that way that, they do want to build their own business and not to be a slave to someone else.’

Despite spending most of their time outdoors, Adele and Matt have decided not to smother their children in suncream the way parents are usually inclined to do.

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Ulysses is allowed to choose his own bed time (Picture: Barcroft)

Adele said: ‘We don’t use sun cream. Not at all on the kids. We don’t believe it protects you from cancer.

Adele writes a blog on natural parenting and she and Matt are adamant, despite some negative comments, they would not raise their children any other way.

Matt said: ‘The whole process of doing it in a completely different way has been an amazing journey and a learning curve for all parties involved.

‘I have got such a fantastic connection and bond with both of them and they know who we are – more than just being Mum and Dada – it’s a much deeper connection than that.’

The family are currently saving to migrate to Costa Rica, to live an eco-lifestyle.

Adele said: ‘Our ultimate ambition is to move towards self-sustainability. We’re looking at Central America; somewhere we can get a big plot of land and grow food. Have the space for freedom and access to wildlife in its natural state.’

deebakes
07-18-2016, 06:06 PM
fuckin' porky is breeding again :x

Teh One Who Knocks
07-20-2016, 11:22 AM
By Natalie Corner - The Mirror


A couple who believe in the natural approach to parenting caused total chaos on This Morning .

Matt and Adele Allen's two children crawled over the couches while they spoke with Eamonn Holmes and Ruth Langsford about their decision to say no to modern medicine and traditional education.

During the interview one-year-old Astala even wandered off to explore the soft rug and ended up weeing on the studio floor as her dad rushed to her rescue.

The couple seemed totally unfazed by the moment and carried on with their interview explaining their controversial lifestyle.

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Both Ruth and Eamonn ignored the mishap but not before viewers noticed and called out the parents for letting their children do as they wish.

"That child just went to the toilet on the floor!! # thismorning" pointed out one, while another added: "The little girl on # thismorning just stood there and had a wee!"

"#thismorning there are clearly no boundaries-the kids are all over the place!" scalded one viewer.

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Adele revealed that she still encouraged her five-year-old son Ulysses to breastfeed which was met with some criticism as she said she would allow him to move on when he feels it's necessary.

"Breastfeeding at 5 and showing a photo of it . Strange woman #thismorning. Had to switch off," said one viewer.

The couple have decided to shun modern medicine and explained that when their children had chicken pox and scarlet fever they turned to a natural alternative.

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"We treated it naturally. We believe in the body to self heal… If you support the body's healing through supplements and herbs then you it will heal," Adele told the Ruth and Eamonn.

Adele also chose to have two unassisted home water births, but did say she had emergency numbers as a back-up if anything were to go wrong.

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However, the couple's attitude towards medicine caused viewers to question what the parents were to do if their children ever got seriously ill: "So what happens when your child needs an operation pray to God they don't but what if # thismorning"

"Without modern medicine my mum wouldn't be alive today. I despise people like this.... It's beyond dangerous # thismorning #offgridparenting," criticised another viewer.

However, not everyone agreed and one praised the couple for their decision: "So refreshing to see these parents doing what feels natural rather than conforming # offgridparenting # thismorning"

FBD
07-20-2016, 12:36 PM
not quite sure how one can live off the grid and still be in society

Godfather
07-20-2016, 08:56 PM
It's a state of mind FBD :lol: They're space cadets you see. Their physical bodies are here to make granola, post facebook articles about holistic medicine, and die of curable diseases... but their brains have left the grid up into the stratosphere.

Hugh_Janus
07-21-2016, 06:49 PM
nice boob

PorkChopSandwiches
07-21-2016, 06:53 PM
:lol:

FBD
07-21-2016, 07:52 PM
nice boob

:hand: boobs and horse teeth dont quite mix

redred
07-21-2016, 07:57 PM
:hand: boobs and horse teeth dont quite mix
You're aware Hugh is a brony :lol:

FBD
07-22-2016, 12:26 PM
:lol: I forgot that shit existed